# Is there a left/right bias in dealing with hyperbolic posters? **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [January 26, 2010, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-left-right-bias-in-dealing-with-hyperbolic-posters/526571 "2010-01-26T21:22:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2010, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-left-right-bias-in-dealing-with-hyperbolic-posters/526571/81 "2010-02-01T22:34:50Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > And the way to stick around long enough to be an accepted abusive asshole is to be a left-wing abusive asshole. With every post, you prove that your stance is incorrect. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-left-right-bias-in-dealing-with-hyperbolic-posters/526571/82 "2010-02-02T01:12:42Z")
> [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](#): > > With every post, you prove that your stance is incorrect. That was pretty good. šŸ™‚ Wrong, but good. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-left-right-bias-in-dealing-with-hyperbolic-posters/526571/83 "2010-02-02T02:51:12Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > And the way to stick around long enough to be an accepted abusive asshole is to be a left-wing abusive asshole. ā€¦ there are no equivalents on the right wing on whose behalf such an effort is made. ā€¦ Donā€™t we first need to find a right-wing poster who was banned for being an abusive asshole and not some other reason? (Having a sock, non-abusive assholery, abusive assholery outside the pit, etc.) I wouldnā€™t be surprised to find that there are some here that _might_ be willing to characterize _you_ as an accepted, abusive, right-wing asshole.\* > [@Shodan](#): > > ā€¦ Name a poster who expressed even mild support for Bush who was reinstated after being banned. ā€¦ Thatā€™s the litmus test for who is or a Republican/conservative/right-winger? 'Cause Iā€™m very aware that there are plenty of Republican/conservative/right-wingers that hate Bush just as much as **Der Trihs** , though not necessarily for the same reasons. The exact level of that hatred really varies with just which Bush policies weā€™re talking about supporting. Torture and foreign policy will get folks foaming at the mouth real quick, domestic policy not so much. Bushā€™s foreign policy ainā€™t even in the top 20 for certain to get real ugly, real quick, thread subjects. Name a poster who expressed even mild support for; well-done steaks, SUVs, driving the speed limit in the passing lane, the Balrog, winged or not, movies directed by Paul Verhoeven, tipping, (need I go on?) who was reinstated after being banned. CMC fnord! - Maybe these guys? > [@tacoloco](#): > > Whatever you say, Shodan. > > Regards, > > Look In the Mirror > [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](#): > > With every post, you prove that your stance is incorrect. ---
**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-left-right-bias-in-dealing-with-hyperbolic-posters/526571/84 "2010-02-02T05:11:26Z")
> [@](#): > > **magellan01** : Not all requests for cites are reasonable. Particularly those that ask someone to prove a negative. This has been explained to you. And, evidently, ignored. Instead, you choose to carp on it thinking you make some grand, or ā€œwinningā€ point. You donā€™t. Thank you for the instruction in a subject that I was teaching in high school classrooms probably before you were born. You donā€™t really want to debate and you reject attempts to help you ā€“ not just from me, but from others. As long as you have that chip on your shoulder, you will twist everything that is said to make it into bias against the right. You show no understanding of my original post. Just because you infer something from a message, that does not mean that that was what was implied or intended. ( **Zeriel** , among others, has been able to explain my own post better than I did, so I refer you to his post if that will be helpful. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-left-right-bias-in-dealing-with-hyperbolic-posters/526571/85 "2010-02-02T05:32:17Z")
> [@Zoe](#): > > You donā€™t really want to debate and you reject attempts to help you ā€“ not just from me, but from others. Ah, such syrupy condescension. What chapter of How To Win Friends And Influence People did you get that from? And Iā€™m pretty sure that I know what I want better than you, if you can believe that. And, rest assured that if I ever feel Iā€™d like help debating I wouldnā€™t seek it from someone who doesnā€™t now the proper role of cites, including when and when not calling from them is appropriate. Iā€™ve seen enough of your debating style to know that it is something I donā€™t want to emulate. This last post of yours being ample evidence. > [@Zoe](#): > > As long as you have that chip on your shoulder, you will twist everything that is said to make it into bias against the right. Check out a mirror, hun. You have had a chip on your shoulder about me for quite a while. YOU engage ME. Nice try, though. > [@Zoe](#): > > You show no understanding of my original post. Just because you infer something from a message, that does not mean that that was what was implied or intended. That is not just false, but marvelously false. I even parsed it for you. I even responded to what otherā€™s said. Now if you didnā€™t intend to say what you wrote, thatā€™s something can be fixed with editing. But first you have to acknowledge where the problem lies. Iā€™ve seen that you have a very inflated opinion of yourself. Something that is quite unwarranted. But, go ahead, keep telling yourself what a great mind you have and how well tuned it is for debateā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 8:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-left-right-bias-in-dealing-with-hyperbolic-posters/526571/86 "2010-02-02T08:07:00Z")
You are becoming nasty and abusive. And you confuse my past and the present. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 8:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-left-right-bias-in-dealing-with-hyperbolic-posters/526571/87 "2010-02-02T08:37:29Z")
> [@Zoe](#): > > You are becoming nasty and abusive. And you confuse my past and the present. I canā€™t help it if you mind when someone defends themselves and deflects your condescension. I donā€™t know what the second sentence is supposed to point to, but Iā€™m happy to keep it a mystery. Good night. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 9:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-left-right-bias-in-dealing-with-hyperbolic-posters/526571/88 "2010-02-02T09:21:56Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > A conservative is going to see a lot more opinions on this board that he disagrees with than a liberal is. And the amount of these confrontations increase the likelihood that a conservative here will cross the line into becoming a jerk. > > This doesnā€™t mean that conservatives are inherently more argumentative than liberals. Itā€™s just that this is a situation where conservatives have more cause to argue. If this were a more conservative board, it would be liberals who would be most often finding posts they disagreed with and argued against. > > Nor am I saying this absolves conservatives (or liberals) for what they post. Regardless of how many conservatives and liberals there are on this baord, everyone is an individual and is responsible for their own actions. I blame society. ---
**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 9:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-left-right-bias-in-dealing-with-hyperbolic-posters/526571/89 "2010-02-02T09:49:25Z")
I need suggestions on where to lay the blame _this_ year. So far Iā€™ve done my sister, Mitzi Carol Baker, Mother, Ford Modeling Agency, Bill, Mother, Mother, Mother, Professor Smith, a hornetsā€™ nest, a Viking, our stars, a motorcycle, his family, communication problems, LBJ, Nixon, school administrators, pollen, the heat, the cold, being fifty, being sixty-five, the doctor, the cat, Der Trihs, the mods, combsuckers, and the Crimson Tide. I think Iā€™m getting warmer. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 10:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-left-right-bias-in-dealing-with-hyperbolic-posters/526571/90 "2010-02-02T10:44:40Z")
ā€œCombsuckersā€? ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-left-right-bias-in-dealing-with-hyperbolic-posters/526571/91 "2010-02-02T14:12:57Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > For the purposes of what Iā€™ve been saying, thereā€™s very little difference. Whether one believes that hostility, intolerance, and simplicity are antithetical to one political persuasion or if they exist that they necessarily belong to the other is similar evidence of blind partisanship. I donā€™t really agree with this, personally, exactly the oppositeā€“I believe that hostility, intolerance, and simplicity are antithetical to all mainstream political positions. That people who claim to be on this side or that will take those strategies doesnā€™t say anything important about the positions themselves in the main. > [@](#): > > We on the right donā€™t want any part of him. Well, if weā€™re all speaking for our entire political groups here, Zoe on the left doesnā€™t appear to want him either, and neither do I in the center. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-left-right-bias-in-dealing-with-hyperbolic-posters/526571/92 "2010-02-02T14:20:03Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > We on the right donā€™t want any part of him. Are we mistaken, or did you, in another recent thread, decry the use of the term ā€œweā€ by other posters who presume to speak for members of a larger group? If so, we apologize. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-left-right-bias-in-dealing-with-hyperbolic-posters/526571/93 "2010-02-02T15:45:11Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Are we mistaken, or did you, in another recent thread, decry the use of the term ā€œweā€ by other posters who presume to speak for members of a larger group? If so, we apologize. [You thinking of this?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12057514&postcount=51) > [@What rule changes would you propose to strengthen/improve GD?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-rule-changes-would-you-propose-to-strengthen-improve-gd/526440/51): > > Hereā€™s an idea I think would help foster better debate: donā€™t allow a mob to form by the people in a debate employing ā€œweā€/ā€œusā€. As in, ā€œWe donā€™t think that makes senseā€¦ā€ or ā€œYou havenā€™t convinced usā€¦ā€. This tactic is often employed in debates where on side greatly outnumbers the other. Yes, I have been on the receiving end of this, and Iā€™ve also seen it done to others. It adds zero to the debate, does not help the validity of anyoneā€™s position (except by a fallacious Appeal to the Masses), and tends to close minds. There is really no upside to it, other than it allows the weak of mind or chickenshit posters who canā€™t cut it on their own over confident. On the downside, it tends to quash unpopular views. > > Yes, this would be an excellent improvement. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-left-right-bias-in-dealing-with-hyperbolic-posters/526571/94 "2010-02-02T15:55:19Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > [You thinking of this?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12057514&postcount=51) Yup. ---
**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-left-right-bias-in-dealing-with-hyperbolic-posters/526571/95 "2010-02-02T15:55:33Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Are we mistaken, or did you, in another recent thread, decry the use of the term ā€œweā€ by other posters who presume to speak for members of a larger group? If so, we apologize. Ouch! Hoist by his own petard. Thatā€™s gotta be painful! šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-left-right-bias-in-dealing-with-hyperbolic-posters/526571/96 "2010-02-02T18:17:41Z")
That was a good catch, at that. ---
**Author:** ![dba\_Fred](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c37758/32.png) [@dba\_Fred](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dba_Fred)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-left-right-bias-in-dealing-with-hyperbolic-posters/526571/97 "2010-02-02T18:37:13Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Are we mistaken, or did you, in another recent thread, decry the use of the term ā€œweā€ by other posters who presume to speak for members of a larger group? If so, we apologize. At the last meeting of the Righties, on the agenda item of ā€œ **Der Trihs** , not wanting any part ofā€, I recall giving **magellan01** my proxy (it was right before pie was served). As he was speaking for himself and I (at the very least), **magellan01** ā€™s use of ā€œWeā€ was proper. So there šŸ˜› Regardlessly, **dba Fred** ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-left-right-bias-in-dealing-with-hyperbolic-posters/526571/98 "2010-02-02T18:59:04Z")
We are not amused. šŸ˜‰ ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-left-right-bias-in-dealing-with-hyperbolic-posters/526571/99 "2010-02-02T19:44:52Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Are we mistaken, or did you, in another recent thread, decry the use of the term ā€œweā€ by other posters who presume to speak for members of a larger group? If so, we apologize. Not just decry, he wants a rule, > [@Are we just ignoring Der Trihs (This isn't a Pitting, but I don't know where else to put it.)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-we-just-ignoring-der-trihs-this-isnt-a-pitting-but-i-dont-know-where-else-to-put-it/527259/84): > > > [@Are we just ignoring Der Trihs (This isn't a Pitting, but I don't know where else to put it.)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-we-just-ignoring-der-trihs-this-isnt-a-pitting-but-i-dont-know-where-else-to-put-it/527259/80): > > > > Whoā€™s we? Weā€™re not ā€œweā€, douchebag, because I donā€™t need the cool kids telling me who to pick on. Grow the fuck up. ā€¦ > > Good call. I recommended a rule change about just this sort of thing [just the other day.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12057514&postcount=51) At the very least **magellan01** should give himself a warning, maybe even a 30 day time out! CMC fnord! ---
**Author:** ![CircleofWillis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/54ee81/32.png) [@CircleofWillis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CircleofWillis)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-left-right-bias-in-dealing-with-hyperbolic-posters/526571/100 "2010-02-02T20:24:32Z")
Iā€™ve got an idea! Letā€™s hijack the thread and play some lame, smarmy-ass game of gotcha in order to ignore the theme of the thread and pile on someone we (and I say we cuz I dont give a fuck about hte whole we or I thing) donā€™t like. Oh waitā€¦ [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-left-right-bias-in-dealing-with-hyperbolic-posters/526571.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-left-right-bias-in-dealing-with-hyperbolic-posters/526571.md?page=6)