# Is there a list of countries I can become citizens of? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [December 8, 2013, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-list-of-countries-i-can-become-citizens-of/675814 "2013-12-08T13:03:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2013, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-list-of-countries-i-can-become-citizens-of/675814/1 "2013-12-08T13:03:27Z")
I’m an American citizen and just fine with that, but I am curious. What citizens can an American give up American citizenship and become citizen of? Which ones are “off limits”? I lived in China for two years and becoming a Chinese citizen is not possible. What other countries can Americans not “join”? ---
**Author:** ![Desert\_Nomad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desert_nomad/32/177_2.png) [@Desert\_Nomad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Desert_Nomad)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2013, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-list-of-countries-i-can-become-citizens-of/675814/2 "2013-12-08T13:39:58Z")
According to Wiki, you can become Chinese but it is very rare. > **[Chinese nationality law](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationality_Law_of_the_People's_Republic_of_China)** > > Chinese nationality law details the conditions by which a person holds nationality of the People's Republic of China (PRC). The primary law governing these requirements is the Nationality Law of the People's Republic of China, which came into force on September 10, 1980. > Foreign nationals may naturalize if they are permanent residents in any part of China or they have immediate family members who are Chinese citizens. Residents of the Taiwan Area are also considered Chinese citizens, due to t... ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2013, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-list-of-countries-i-can-become-citizens-of/675814/3 "2013-12-08T13:49:03Z")
You can become a Thai citizen, but it’s expensive and extremely time-consuming. For instance, you have to learn to speak Thai fluently. But you don’t have to give up your American citizenship when you become a Thai citizen. I thought you did, but an American friend who gained Thai citizenship a few years ago tells me no one has ever asked him to renounce his US citizenship. ---
**Author:** ![njtt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ecd19e/32.png) [@njtt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/njtt)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2013, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-list-of-countries-i-can-become-citizens-of/675814/4 "2013-12-08T14:02:17Z")
Turning Japanese, on the other hand . . . ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2013, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-list-of-countries-i-can-become-citizens-of/675814/5 "2013-12-08T14:08:26Z")
Not sure you could become a Saudi citizen. Maybe if you flogged a woman driver in front of three witnesses, dunno. ---
**Author:** ![Desert\_Nomad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desert_nomad/32/177_2.png) [@Desert\_Nomad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Desert_Nomad)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2013, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-list-of-countries-i-can-become-citizens-of/675814/6 "2013-12-08T14:31:53Z")
You can become a citizen of most of the Gulf countries but it is quite rare. You’d almost certainly have to be (or become) Muslim, speak Arabic and have lived there for a very long time… 25+ years. Being personal friends with the ruler would help. ---
**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2013, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-list-of-countries-i-can-become-citizens-of/675814/7 "2013-12-08T15:09:14Z")
Australia and Nz you can become a citizen of relatively easily, through points system immigration or a number of other ways. Belize you can buy citizenship in. You do realize that permanent residency usually comes first and even in countries like Japan that don’t give out citizenship you can still get permanent residency? ---
**Author:** ![hibernicus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hibernicus/32/2802_2.png) [@hibernicus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hibernicus)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2013, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-list-of-countries-i-can-become-citizens-of/675814/8 "2013-12-08T15:29:20Z")
> [@coremelt](#): > > You do realize that permanent residency usually comes first and even in countries like Japan that don’t give out citizenship you can still get permanent residency? It’s certainly possible (though not easy) for foreigners to become citizens of Japan. Some famous examples (off the top of my head) include: Marutei Tsurunen (he actually became a member of parliament); CW Nicol; Arudou Debito (formerly David Aldwinckle); Daniel Cole(?) (Kaul?) I think there are probably very few countries that don’t have the possibility of naturalisation, at least in theory. ---
**Author:** ![hibernicus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hibernicus/32/2802_2.png) [@hibernicus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hibernicus)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2013, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-list-of-countries-i-can-become-citizens-of/675814/9 "2013-12-08T15:33:44Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > You can become a Thai citizen, but it’s expensive and extremely time-consuming. For instance, you have to learn to speak Thai fluently. But you don’t have to give up your American citizenship when you become a Thai citizen. I thought you did, but an American friend who gained Thai citizenship a few years ago tells me no one has ever asked him to renounce his US citizenship. There may be a distinction between what is required in theory and what happens in practice. It is not unknown for Japanese living overseas to become citizens in their country of residence. While this is illegal (Japan does not allow for dual nationality) they are unlikely to be caught as long as they are careful when presenting travel documents, etc. In practice, therefore, they can enjoy the benefits of dual nationality. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2013, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-list-of-countries-i-can-become-citizens-of/675814/10 "2013-12-08T16:57:49Z")
> [@coremelt](#): > > You do realize that permanent residency usually comes first and even in countries like Japan that don’t give out citizenship you can still get permanent residency? Yes. Did you mean “Do/Did you” instead “You do…”? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2013, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-list-of-countries-i-can-become-citizens-of/675814/11 "2013-12-08T17:47:38Z")
Is there a general rule that you can become a citizen of a country by marrying somebody who’s already a citizen? Or is that just an American policy? ---
**Author:** ![Driver8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b5a626/32.png) [@Driver8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Driver8)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2013, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-list-of-countries-i-can-become-citizens-of/675814/12 "2013-12-08T18:09:13Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Is there a general rule that you can become a citizen of a country by marrying somebody who’s already a citizen? Or is that just an American policy? A general rule? If that means some sort of international agreement that many countries have signed up for then I doubt it very much. I think marriage to a citizen is a path to permanent residency and citizenship in many countries. I’d suspect this is the case for most countries. But the restrictions and level of bureaucratic pain no doubt varies considerably. I think you’d really want to look at each country on a case by case basis to get a sensible answer. Luckily most countries appear to have immigration websites that detail the eligibility and filing requirements. ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2013, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-list-of-countries-i-can-become-citizens-of/675814/13 "2013-12-08T18:10:04Z")
I would also expect that the advantages of being a citizen over not-being a citizen vary tremendously from country to country and may in fact be negative (I personally would not want to be drafted into the army for a couple years…) ---
**Author:** ![Duckster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duckster/32/1244_2.png) [@Duckster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duckster)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2013, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-list-of-countries-i-can-become-citizens-of/675814/14 "2013-12-08T18:17:35Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Is there a general rule that you can become a citizen of a country by marrying somebody who’s already a citizen? Or is that just an American policy? It’s not American policy. You still have to jump through a number of hoops in your own right: > [@](#): > > To be eligible for naturalization pursuant to section 319(a) of the INA, an applicant must: > > [ul] > [li]Be 18 or older[/li][li]Be a permanent resident (green card holder) for at least 3 years immediately preceding the date of filing [Form N-400, Application for Naturalization](http://www.uscis.gov/node/41239)[/li][li]Have been living in marital union with the U.S. citizen spouse, who has been a U.S. citizen during all of such period, during the 3 years immediately preceding the date of filing the application and up until examination on the application[/li][li]Have lived within the state, or USCIS district with jurisdiction over the applicant’s place of residence, for at least 3 months prior to the date of filing the application[/li][li]Have continuous residence in the United States as a lawful permanent resident for at least 3 years immediately preceding the date of filing the application[/li][li]Reside continuously within the United States from the date of application for naturalization until the time of naturalization[/li][li]Be physically present in the United States for at least 18 months out of the 3 years immediately preceding the date of filing the application[/li][li]Be able to read, write, and speak English and have knowledge and an understanding of U.S. history and government (also known as civics)[/li][li]Be a person of good moral character, attached to the principles of the Constitution of the United States, and well disposed to the good order and happiness of the United States during all relevant periods under the law[/li][/ul] > **[I am Married to a U.S. Citizen | USCIS](https://www.uscis.gov/citizenship/learn-about-citizenship/citizenship-and-naturalization/i-am-married-to-a-us-citizen)** > > General Eligibility RequirementsTo be ---
**Author:** ![Driver8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b5a626/32.png) [@Driver8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Driver8)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2013, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-list-of-countries-i-can-become-citizens-of/675814/15 "2013-12-08T18:27:15Z")
> [@PastTense](#): > > I would also expect that the advantages of being a citizen over not-being a citizen vary tremendously from country to country and may in fact be negative (I personally would not want to be drafted into the army for a couple years…) That is true. In the United States for your average law abiding resident there is a negligible difference between living as a green card holder or a citizen. A green card holder can’t vote or serve on a jury, but you’d never notice the difference in your day to day life. Still, those things are important, and I want to be eligible for them. There are definitely benefits on the margins: its possible even in civilian work to run into government contracts with “US Citizen Only” security clearance requirements, and I can travel to far more countries without applying for a visa on my US passport than my South African passport. ---
**Author:** ![yabob](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yabob/32/2821_2.png) [@yabob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yabob)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2013, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-list-of-countries-i-can-become-citizens-of/675814/16 "2013-12-08T18:39:53Z")
There are some countries that essentially let you buy citizenship, or provide very easy paths to citizenship for wealthy investors willing to make some commitment to the country. St Kitts and Nevis is a classic example, and Malta has recently made the news by proposing a flat out sale of their citizenships for 650,000 Euros. They’ve since backpedaled on implementing the program, under pressure from the rest of the EU: > **[Which Countries Let You Buy Citizenship?](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2013/11/you-can-now-be-maltese-for-865000-which-countries-let-you-buy-citizenship.html)** > > Under a new law, the cash-strapped government of Malta will allow foreigners to buy citizenship for €650,000 ($865,000). Anyone over the age of 18 who... > [@](#): > > Malta won’t be the only country with a program like this. The cheapest deals are in the Caribbean. You can become a citizen of St. Kitts and Nevis in return for $250,000 donation to a fund for retired sugar workers or a $400,000 real estate donation. Antigua and Barbuda instituted a program with the same price just last month. In Dominica, it costs about $100,000. These passports are particularly popular in the Middle East, though St. Kitts closed its program off to Iranians in 2011. ---
**Author:** ![robert\_columbia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e79b87/32.png) [@robert\_columbia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robert_columbia)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2013, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-list-of-countries-i-can-become-citizens-of/675814/17 "2013-12-08T18:56:30Z")
> [@coremelt](#): > > Australia and Nz you can become a citizen of relatively easily, through points system immigration or a number of other ways. Belize you can buy citizenship in. > > You do realize that permanent residency usually comes first and even in countries like Japan that don’t give out citizenship you can still get permanent residency? Canada iirc also has a fairly generous points system. You get points for academic degrees, work experience, speaking English and/or French, etc. To some extent it seems you could play it like a game and come up with an action plan to maximize your points in X years. One way to approach the OP’s question is to consider what countries have looser-than-average requirements for permanent residency and/or citizenship. One interesting case would be the Pacific-island countries [subject](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compact_of_Free_Association) to Free Association agreements with the US. It looks like a US Citizen can more or less live and work in one of these visa free, but I don’t know that this is likely to get you on the fast track to citizenship. It also looks like a US Citizen can become a resident of Norway’s [Svalbard archipelago](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svalbard_Treaty) in the Arctic more or less _pro forma_ due to the treaty, but this wouldn’t give you rights to live anywhere else in Norway. ---
**Author:** ![robert\_columbia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e79b87/32.png) [@robert\_columbia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robert_columbia)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2013, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-list-of-countries-i-can-become-citizens-of/675814/18 "2013-12-08T19:35:36Z")
Some European countries have homecoming laws that allow descendants of emigrants to claim citizenship by proving descent. In some cases, descendants might already be citizens by operation of law and may only need to prove it via birth certificates, etc. in order to get a passport. In other cases, you might not be a citizen until you have both proved your ancestry _and_ formally applied for naturalization on the basis of ancestry. The Republic of Ireland famously grants more or less immediate citizenship to anyone with a single grandparent who was born in Ireland and who applies. If you are Jewish, you may be able to immigrate to Israel relatively painlessly under its Law of Return, but you might have to serve in the Army. ---
**Author:** ![robert\_columbia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e79b87/32.png) [@robert\_columbia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robert_columbia)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2013, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-list-of-countries-i-can-become-citizens-of/675814/19 "2013-12-08T19:42:59Z")
> [@Driver8](#): > > That is true. In the United States for your average law abiding resident there is a negligible difference between living as a green card holder or a citizen. A green card holder can’t vote or serve on a jury, but you’d never notice the difference in your day to day life. Still, those things are important, and I want to be eligible for them. There are definitely benefits on the margins: its possible even in civilian work to run into government contracts with “US Citizen Only” security clearance requirements, and I can travel to far more countries without applying for a visa on my US passport than my South African passport. Also, I have been told repeatedly by immigrants to the US that Green Card holders can enter Canada as a tourist visa-free like US Citizens can. Foreigners with H1B and other non-permanent-resident visas may still need a Canadian visa that Americans wouldn’t need. While the US/Canada border has more restrictions than Eurozone borders, it’s still relatively porous and it’s possible for Americans to get up on Friday morning in New York and decide to go to Montreal for the weekend and actually go. ---
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Check old threads, the US doesn’t make you renounce citizenship but certain other countries do. > [@Desert\_Nomad](#): > > You can become a citizen of most of the Gulf countries but it is quite rare. You’d almost certainly have to be (or become) Muslim, speak Arabic and have lived there for a very long time… 25+ years. Being personal friends with the ruler would help. The UAE is notable. ~85% of the population are **not** citizens. You supposedly can get it after 20 years, although I met someone who was born(?) and raised there and wasn’t a citizen, parents were Indian national. She explained that it was very difficult but I don’t know if she tried. > [@Driver8](#): > > A green card holder can’t vote or **serve on a jury** , but you’d never notice the difference in your day to day life. Bolding mine. How poorly we treat our permanent residents! 🙂 > [@robert\_columbia](#): > > It also looks like a US Citizen can become a resident of Norway’s [Svalbard archipelago](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svalbard_Treaty) in the Arctic more or less _pro forma_ due to the treaty, but this wouldn’t give you rights to live anywhere else in Norway. Does that give you the right to carry or purchase arms? Because Svalbard requires you to be armed outside of population centers. The polar bears are hungry, true story. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-list-of-countries-i-can-become-citizens-of/675814.md?page=2)