# Is there a name for the process of treating black children as adults but treating black adults as children

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**Created:** [April 29, 2021, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-name-for-the-process-of-treating-black-children-as-adults-but-treating-black-adults-as-children/941009 "2021-04-29T01:17:59Z")\
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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2021, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-name-for-the-process-of-treating-black-children-as-adults-but-treating-black-adults-as-children/941009/21 "2021-04-30T11:49:59Z")

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I think they’re both different aspects of dehumanization - thinking of people as if they were animals. Animals, after all, are both less intelligent than humans, and often more mature, independent and dangerous than a human the same age. After all, what’s more dangerous, a two-year-old child, or a two year-old pit bull?

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
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This is similar to _Kavanaughism_ a unique condition where you argue that what you did in high school has no bearing on whether you should enter the Supreme Court, then… once appointed… you then rule that things done in high school should damn you to prison for life.

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2021, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-name-for-the-process-of-treating-black-children-as-adults-but-treating-black-adults-as-children/941009/23 "2021-05-01T03:22:43Z")

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> [@Princhester](#):
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> I don’t insist that at all. The OP simply asked if there was such a term and my answer, if you care to look, was “no”.
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> I can see why the OP might want to use such a term - IME if there’s one thing that isn’t useful, it’s just saying “racist” at people. But if you can say “you are X’ing” where “X” is a term for an obviously irrational fallacy, that has more effect.

Broomstick noted that this can and does happen with women, but I’m curious why this kind of behavior happens with black people and women, but I don’t think I see it with other forms of bigotry.

To my knowledge I’ve never seen this with anti Jewish, or anti Muslim, or anti catholic, or anti chinese, or anti LGBT forms of bigotry. I’m curious what made the difference that it applies to some forms of bigotry but not others

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2021, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-name-for-the-process-of-treating-black-children-as-adults-but-treating-black-adults-as-children/941009/24 "2021-05-01T12:30:02Z")

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[Moderating]

I realize that this topic relates closely to politics, but this is over the line. We can have this discussion without referring to specific political individuals.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2021, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-name-for-the-process-of-treating-black-children-as-adults-but-treating-black-adults-as-children/941009/25 "2021-05-01T12:44:44Z")

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Accepted, but my comment literally spoke to the double-standard being discussed in this thread.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2021, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-name-for-the-process-of-treating-black-children-as-adults-but-treating-black-adults-as-children/941009/26 "2021-05-01T12:45:52Z")

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> [@Wesley\_Clark](#):
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> Broomstick noted that this can and does happen with women, but I’m curious why this kind of behavior happens with black people and women, but I don’t think I see it with other forms of bigotry.

I wouldn’t call it bigotry, but it’s the exact same argument that some people make against “SJWs,” the “PC police”, “cancel culture,” and so on. They’re simulaneously weak and silly and so powerful you need to be scared of them.

It does really feel like there should be a term for this sort of cognitive dissonance.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2021, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-name-for-the-process-of-treating-black-children-as-adults-but-treating-black-adults-as-children/941009/27 "2021-05-01T16:05:50Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> … They’re simulaneously weak and silly and so powerful you need to be scared of them.
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> It does really feel like there should be a term for this sort of cognitive dissonance.

IMO that is _exactly_ the nub. Bravo for distilling it out of all the commentary.

Now armed with that cogent summary, we do see that can be applied by at least some commentators to these folks:

> [@Wesley\_Clark](#):
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> To my knowledge I’ve never seen this with anti Jewish, or anti Muslim, or anti catholic, or anti chinese, or anti LGBT forms of bigotry. I’m curious what made the difference that it applies to some forms of bigotry but not others

contrary to @Wesley_Clark’s thoughts. Admittedly it’s a bit rarer for some groups than for others.

e.g. much anti-Muslim sentiment is couched in terms that they’re so beholden to their supposedly antiquated religion as to be unreliable adult citizens of the 21st century. And yet they’re so powerful and their theocratic principles so compelling that they are on the march, slowly but inevitably over-running all of first Europe and eventually the entire West. Which is quite a cognitive  
  
  
One could make a distinction between my contention and the OP’s point. The OP was about children versus adults of the out-group. My point is about alternate characterizations of the out-group. But ISTM that’s a distinction without a difference.

The actual point of the real (and bad) in-group behavior he points up is simple:

> - If the best way to justify kicking somebody is to make them bigger / badder, then label them bigger / badder. Then kick them for that.
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> - If the best way to get away with kicking somebody is to make them smaller / weaker, then label them smaller / weaker. Then kick them safely.

It’s simply a rationalization around the hoary old human ~~feature~~ bug that

> The ends really do justify almost any means.

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