# Is there a name for these "bait-and-switch" sort of songs?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-name-for-these-bait-and-switch-sort-of-songs/442704>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 25, 2008, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-name-for-these-bait-and-switch-sort-of-songs/442704 "2008-03-25T19:48:14Z")\
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**Post date:** [March 26, 2008, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-name-for-these-bait-and-switch-sort-of-songs/442704/41 "2008-03-26T18:38:07Z")

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Johnny Horton, “Battle of New Orleans”

Old Hickory said we could take 'em by surprise  
If we didn’t fire our muskets 'til we looked 'em in the eye  
We held our fire 'til we see’d their faces well.  
Then we opened up with squirrel guns and really gave 'em

Well we fired our guns and the British kept a’comin.  
There wasn’t nigh as many as there was a while ago.  
We fired once more and they began to runnin’  
On down the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico.

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**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2008, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-name-for-these-bait-and-switch-sort-of-songs/442704/42 "2008-03-26T19:52:21Z")

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[QUOTE=Chefguy]

“She’s Got Freckles On Her Butt: She’s Pretty”

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The reminds me, there is a song I used to hear on a classic rock station, but I can’t remember much of the lyrics, or singer, in the vein.

All I can remember is “I appreciate her but,…”

Familiar to anyone

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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2008, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-name-for-these-bait-and-switch-sort-of-songs/442704/43 "2008-03-26T20:02:51Z")

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[QUOTE=wolfman]  
All I can remember is “I appreciate her but,…”

Familiar to anyone  
[/QUOTE]  
No, but it reminds me of “Big Bottom”:  
[Spinal Tap]How can I leave this behind?[/Spinal Tap]

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2008, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-name-for-these-bait-and-switch-sort-of-songs/442704/44 "2008-03-26T20:12:21Z")

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Strut, Bob Seger.

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**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2008, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-name-for-these-bait-and-switch-sort-of-songs/442704/45 "2008-03-26T20:45:51Z")

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[QUOTE=Ludovic]  
Strut, Bob Seger.  
[/QUOTE]

AHh thank you sir, I have been wondering for a while.

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**Post date:** [March 26, 2008, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-name-for-these-bait-and-switch-sort-of-songs/442704/46 "2008-03-26T20:54:08Z")

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From my far-distant elementary school daze in the '50s (and how in hell has this stayed in my brain after more than 50 years?):

Frankie and Johnny were digging in a ditch,  
Frankie called Johhny a dirty son-of-a-

Beaver, beaver, sitting on a rock,  
Along came a bumble bee and stung him on his

Cocktail, ginger ale, five cents a glass,  
If you don’t like it shove it up your

Ask my no questions and I will tell no lies,  
Frankie hit Johnny and now he’s paralyzed.

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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2008, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-name-for-these-bait-and-switch-sort-of-songs/442704/47 "2008-03-26T21:10:55Z")

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[QUOTE=Kyrie Eleison]  
Twenty-four posts and no mention of Miss Lucy?  
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mentioned “Miss Susie” in the OP, which is the same song.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2008, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-name-for-these-bait-and-switch-sort-of-songs/442704/48 "2008-03-27T04:45:24Z")

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Oedipus and Jocasta would pucker  
And out of her clothes he would shuck 'er  
'Till he got a surprise  
And he gouged out his eyes  
The pitiful, sad, Freudian archetype!

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**Post date:** [March 27, 2008, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-name-for-these-bait-and-switch-sort-of-songs/442704/49 "2008-03-27T15:47:29Z")

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[QUOTE=BrainGlutton]  
Oedipus and Jocasta would pucker  
And out of her clothes he would shuck 'er  
'Till he got a surprise  
And he gouged out his eyes  
The pitiful, sad, Freudian archetype!  
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f’ing brilliant. Where did this come from?

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**Author:** ![Dr.Rieux](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@Dr.Rieux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Rieux)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2008, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-name-for-these-bait-and-switch-sort-of-songs/442704/50 "2008-03-27T16:47:48Z")

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“The Freckle Song” by Larry Vincent (from a Dr. Demento collection of '40s novelty songs):

_She’s got freckles on her, but she is nice  
And when she’s in my arms it’s Paradise  
When she gets drunk she gets plastered  
She gets drunker than my brother  
She’s got freckles on her, but she is nice_

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**Post date:** [March 27, 2008, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-name-for-these-bait-and-switch-sort-of-songs/442704/51 "2008-03-27T16:55:10Z")

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[QUOTE=Contrapuntal]  
Asshole, asshole,  
A soldier went to war.

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Similarly, there’s a protest chant here in Quebec (actually, a line that can be appended to most any protest chant) that goes _Aucu-, aucu-, aucu-ne hésitation_ (no hesitation, where _aucu-_ sounds like _au cul_, ‘in the ass’)

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**Post date:** [March 27, 2008, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-name-for-these-bait-and-switch-sort-of-songs/442704/52 "2008-03-27T19:09:04Z")

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Not long ago, there was a song on the country-western charts called “Hillbillies”. I don’t remember the name of the group that sang it.

One verse ended with the line, “Hillbillies like to do it in the hay.” Slightly risque, but nothing the censors could cut.

Although, given the song’s rhyme scheme, you were expecting to hear something that would rhyme with “grass”.

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**Post date:** [March 27, 2008, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-name-for-these-bait-and-switch-sort-of-songs/442704/53 "2008-03-27T19:32:10Z")

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There’s also a Dead Milkmen song called Serrated Edge that goes

“My baby sure drives a truck  
My baby has a pet duck  
My baby sure is good luck  
And My baby is one heck of a fffffriend”

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**Post date:** [March 27, 2008, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-name-for-these-bait-and-switch-sort-of-songs/442704/54 "2008-03-27T19:53:20Z")

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Lest we forget - [My Ding a Ling](http://www.chuckberry.com/music/lyrics/dingaling.htm).

> [@Chuck Berry](#):
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> Once I was swimming cross Turtle creek  
> many snappers all around my feet  
> Shure was hard swimming cross that thing  
> with both hands holdin’ my ding a ling

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**Post date:** [March 27, 2008, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-name-for-these-bait-and-switch-sort-of-songs/442704/55 "2008-03-27T22:17:33Z")

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Not seeing the bait and switch in that one. What’s the obvious other rhyme that’s set up in the lyrics?

And come on people, there’s gotta be a name for this genre!

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**Post date:** [March 28, 2008, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-name-for-these-bait-and-switch-sort-of-songs/442704/56 "2008-03-28T05:08:32Z")

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Have you heard that Mimsie Starr  
Just got pinched in the Astor Bar?  
[Well, did you evah?](http://www.jumbojimbo.com/lyrics.php?songid=4262) What a swell party this is.

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**Post date:** [March 28, 2008, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-name-for-these-bait-and-switch-sort-of-songs/442704/57 "2008-03-28T12:40:55Z")

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[QUOTE=Otto]  
And come on people, there’s gotta be a name for this genre!  
[/QUOTE]  
Why?

Things like this aren’t given a name until someone notes and categorizes them.

On the bright side, nothing’s stopping you from coining a term for it.

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