# Is there a particular name for these types of machines?

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**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [January 19, 2016, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-particular-name-for-these-types-of-machines/743543 "2016-01-19T02:07:15Z")\
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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2016, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-particular-name-for-these-types-of-machines/743543/1 "2016-01-19T02:07:15Z")

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The YouTube video is titled “[Awesome Yet Useless Machines](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WTP36fxCYs)”. They’re at least fun if not actually awesome, and I really like that you can swap out components. But I could swear there is some more specific term, lurking near the tip of my tongue.

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**Author:** ![Backwater\_Under\_Duck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ba8739/32.png) [@Backwater\_Under\_Duck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Backwater_Under_Duck)\
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Yay. I get to be first. They are [Rube Goldberg Machines](https://www.rubegoldberg.com).

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**Author:** ![Mr.Kobayashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4af34b/32.png) [@Mr.Kobayashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Kobayashi)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2016, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-particular-name-for-these-types-of-machines/743543/3 "2016-01-19T02:11:09Z")

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[Rube Goldberg machine](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rube_Goldberg_machine) might be what you’re after.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2016, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-particular-name-for-these-types-of-machines/743543/4 "2016-01-19T02:22:16Z")

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> [@](#):
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> [A rolling ball sculpture](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_ball_sculpture), sometimes referred to as a marble run, a ball run, a gravitram, a kugelbahn, or a rolling ball machine is a form of kinetic art – an art form of that contains moving pieces – that specifically involves one or more rolling balls.

_RGM_s are unnecessarily elaborate ways to accomplish simple tasks . . . IMHO.

CMC fnord!

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2016, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-particular-name-for-these-types-of-machines/743543/5 "2016-01-19T02:23:28Z")

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> [@Backwater\_Under\_Duck](#):
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> Yay. I get to be first. They are [Rube Goldberg Machines](https://www.rubegoldberg.com).

That’s a term I know, and not what I was thinking of. It fits – a ridiculously complex machine to accomplish a trivial task, but I thought there was something more specific for this _type_ of Rube Goldberg machine.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2016, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-particular-name-for-these-types-of-machines/743543/6 "2016-01-19T02:28:04Z")

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> _RGM_s are unnecessarily elaborate ways to accomplish simple tasks . . . IMHO.
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> CMC fnord!

Thanks, your link gave me the term I was trying to think of. Now I have to try remembering where the hell I heard it --kugelbahn.

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**Author:** ![Napier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ce73a5/32.png) [@Napier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Napier)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2016, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-particular-name-for-these-types-of-machines/743543/7 "2016-01-19T03:10:27Z")

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> _RGM_s are unnecessarily elaborate ways to accomplish simple tasks . . . IMHO.
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> CMC fnord!

Yay. You get to be right.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2016, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-particular-name-for-these-types-of-machines/743543/8 "2016-01-19T03:48:06Z")

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Am I the only one who wants to see one lifter component that’s just a direct elevator to the top, and one faller component that’s just a straight ramp to the bottom? It feels like they ought to exist, even if they’re almost never used.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2016, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-particular-name-for-these-types-of-machines/743543/9 "2016-01-19T03:53:07Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> Thanks, your link gave me the term I was trying to think of. Now I have to try remembering where the hell I heard it --kugelbahn.

Other terms include [rolling ball sculpture](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_ball_sculpture), marble run or ball run. I’ve seen a few really complex examples, and this sort of thing always fascinated me.

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**Author:** ![cornflakes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9d8465/32.png) [@cornflakes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cornflakes)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2016, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-particular-name-for-these-types-of-machines/743543/10 "2016-01-19T04:32:50Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> The YouTube video is titled “[Awesome Yet Useless Machines](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WTP36fxCYs)”. They’re at least fun if not actually awesome, and I really like that you can swap out components. But I could swear there is some more specific term, lurking near the tip of my tongue.

A kluge?

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**Author:** ![Enola\_Straight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/dec6dc/32.png) [@Enola\_Straight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enola_Straight)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2016, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-particular-name-for-these-types-of-machines/743543/11 "2016-01-19T05:46:36Z")

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Kinetic Kascade Kontraption!

😛

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**Post date:** [January 19, 2016, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-particular-name-for-these-types-of-machines/743543/12 "2016-01-19T06:45:50Z")

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If they don’t have a name already, I’d suggest [Sisyphus](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sisyphus) machines.

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
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Depending on where you come from, you might alternatively call them [Heath Robinson](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._Heath_Robinson) machines. Two quite similar-minded artists, apparently. I don’t know if they ever met.

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**Author:** ![ticker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d07c76/32.png) [@ticker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ticker)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2016, 7:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-particular-name-for-these-types-of-machines/743543/14 "2016-01-19T07:18:03Z")

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> [@Mangetout](#):
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> Depending on where you come from, you might alternatively call them [Heath Robinson](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._Heath_Robinson) machines. Two quite similar-minded artists, apparently. I don’t know if they ever met.

They did at least meet right here! [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=110498](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=110498)

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> That’s a term I know, and not what I was thinking of. It fits – a ridiculously complex machine to accomplish a trivial task, but I thought there was something more specific for this _type_ of Rube Goldberg machine.

[Useless machine - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Useless_machine) ?

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**Author:** ![Backwater\_Under\_Duck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ba8739/32.png) [@Backwater\_Under\_Duck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Backwater_Under_Duck)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2016, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-particular-name-for-these-types-of-machines/743543/16 "2016-01-20T01:33:47Z")

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I don’t know. The first rolling ball ramp collections looked like various children’s toys I remember. But once you get to to the ball dropping onto a catapult launching a new ball into a bin that sets a a new sequence of balls doing different things… Yeah, you got a Rube Goldberg Machine. You just do.

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**Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-particular-name-for-these-types-of-machines/743543/17 "2016-01-21T02:01:52Z")

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> [@cornflakes](#):
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> A kluge?

I think “kluge” means a machine or device that is useful and works, at least more or less, but is awkwardly conceived and constructed. Often, a kluge is created by badly fitting together two different things that aren’t meant to work well together. For example, hanging a hedge trimmer below a shopping cart to create a lawnmower might be considered an especially obvious kluge. Extra points for duct tape.

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**Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-particular-name-for-these-types-of-machines/743543/18 "2016-01-21T15:38:22Z")

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There’s a cool one in the movie **Fracture** , which stars Anthony Hopkins.

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I used to know one of the guys who built for [George Rhoads.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Rhoads) They just called them “ball machines” in the shop.
