People confuse race with religion, language, nationality, eating habits, footwear…you name it.
For instance, Americans take it for granted that there is a “Hispanic” race, but there’s no such thing. “Hispanics” are just a collection of people who speak some form of Spanish. Why don’t we say all Frenchmen, Waloons, Quebecois, Haitians, and Senegalese are a “Gallic” race, it would make as much sense.
And aside from Mein Kampf, where is it established that Jews are a “race”?
I have never met or heard of a blind racist.
A blind person has the disadvantage of not being able to judge a person by looks alone. They would have to base their judgment purely on their interactions with individuals they meet.
Perhaps, sight is sometimes a handicap. Without sight, what good is racial bias?
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I do not completely agree with your picture of the average SDMB poster, because out of the many thousands who post here, let alone read without comment, I would estimate that around 5 to 10% are racist. At least 2%, in my opinion, are very racist.
Some, knowing the beating up they would get, just will not post their opinions here.
Today, one cannot avoid knowing about racism, especially in relation to Blacks. No matter what media you turn to carries information about it and during Black history month, which is the only month singled out for only one race, you get to find out about how Black heroes fought the beastly White devils and won their freedom at great cost.
Not much is mentioned about the Whites who aided them in the struggle.
After a while, one gets tired of hearing about it all, especially since it is all about Blacks and there are no other nationally designated months for any other race with a month long series of historical programs detailing their struggles to defeat racism.
That little thing alone can generate racism towards Blacks.
People facing, lets say, race K, might start finding them offensive if they remain clannish, insist on parading around in their national clothing, insist on speaking in their national language or create a butchered up version of English and stubbornly cling to it. Plus if they start acting different from everyone else, arrogant, or racist themselves, then you have racism beginning.
History shows that the Irish did this here in America, even to developing something like an Irish Mafia, getting a reputation for being argumentative, combative, stubborn and clannish and demanding acceptance of their own holidays. (Sound familiar?)
The majority race or nationality is not going to take kindly to that at all. Look at Miami, Florida. The Cuban migration settled there and racism flourished with a few years because the Cubans were not about to change their traditional ways of living just because they had to live here. That caused problems. The Cuban ‘invasion’ is responsible for the wide spread enforcement of bilingual signs – always in English and Spanish, of south Florida schools having bilingual classes, which caused a stir, and if you live in Miami, you need to be bilingual because now, many businesses and stores speak only Spanish.
There used to be a running joke: ‘Will the last American out of Miami please bring the American flag and turn out the lights?’
Cubans are verbal, excitable people, who ‘discuss’ things a lot. (Look at the dramatics over Elian.) That got them the reputation of being argumentative, their swarthy color, the short stocky build of the men, the tendency to get fat as they aged, plus the high percentage of them committing crimes got them singled out quickly. Not until they became almost 60% of the Miami population, with a great many in public office, did the racism die down. There are still other races, mainly Whites, who are still pissed off over the enforced bilingual signs across the State and the fact that almost half of the people in Miami prefer to speak Spanish. Their opinion is, if you live here, you speak English and you accept our rules. The Cubans don’t agree. There is still racism against them.
When you get a group of people who clump together protectively, refuse to accept the attitudes, morals, regular rules and attitudes of the majority, native population, plus cultivate traditional home styles of the land they fled, you are going to get a form of racism.
I pick up my kids at school from time to time and I notice things. Firstly, I’ve noticed that the majority of the White women who show up for their kids are overweight, something you never saw when I was a kid and being picked up at school. I don’t mean plump either, I mean lumpily fat! The second thing is a high percentage of Black, Middle Eastern and Asian kids along with a low percentage of really, really handicapped kids in powered chairs. (That was never allowed in public schools years ago.)
I’m a people watcher. I see the kids come out, no matter what race, all laughing, chattering, mingling and not in the racial clumps found in the higher schools. Then I notice the parents. I see the rare, die hard redneck show up, mullet in full flower, that familiar no-shit look on his square or fat face, then the Asian parents, quiet, seemingly a bit shy, then the Middle Eastern folks, the Hispanics and the Blacks.
In the Hispanic and Blacks I’ve spotted unpleasant signs. Far too many arrive looking arrogant and irritated, the expressions on their faces unfriendly. With the Hispanic women, I’ve observed a tendency for them to speak only Spanish to their kids or each other, and I’ve spotted the sullen looking, limp walking Black young man show up, cutting his eyes at people, looking like he’s smirking and talking only to other Blacks.
You think that doesn’t get noticed? That type of attitude encourages racism. I know those Hispanic mothers speak English because I’ve been around when they talk to the teachers, and I know those Black men don’t have to ‘sport it’ when they come in because I’ve encountered a lot of normal Black guys and talked with them there.
My daughter has Black friends, but has started to observe differences, along with Asian and Middle Eastern. I encourage the mixing, hoping to head off bigotry, but I spot the seeds of it in the parents showing up. Racism is a double edged sword. It cuts both ways.
In my opinion, I find more Whites bending over backwards to end racism than I do Blacks or Hispanics. Even there, I’ve never been accused of being racist by a Hispanic person, but I have by several Black people. I’ve never been snubbed by Middle Easterners or Asians but I have been by Hispanics and Blacks.
So, I can pretty much see how someone might harbor a resentment or hostile feelings towards an entire race. My kids, hopefully, will be much less susceptible to this than I am, but I’m not sure about the kids of those Hispanic and Black people I’ve encountered. If I detect hostility from them, their kids will certainly pick it up and spread it later.
Though, I do have some hope when I see the mass of kids of all races pouring out of school together, the greater majority of them getting along, laughing, clowning around, arm in arm and being buddies.
Collounsbury and you copied my entire post, for why?
We just dealt with this last month. Although I’m sure several people will respond shortly, you can find refutations of this stuff at the link. For example, blacks aren’t the only ones with “their own month”:
I’d respond to the rest of the post now, but I’m rather tired. Maybe later, if there’s anything left after everyone else takes a crack at it.
Collounsbury, did you add anything to SpyderA48’s post which I’ve missed?
[Maybe it was just a mistake, no problem]
I fucked up somehow last night. Should not post after drinking heavily.
I had some critiques of Spyders comments, but I don’t feel like retyping them presently.
Protesilaus, thank you for pointing these other months out to me, but the fact that I did not know of them indicates that none get the coverage of Black history month. I certainly did not notice commercials and info-spots on TV explaining about them 24/7 like for Black history month.
This form of selective promotion can easily generate hard feelings.
Well, I’ve heard quite a bit in some areas about Women’s History Month.
Sisterhood is powerful, baby!
ARL–PLEASE do a thread on this. I’d love to read the thoughts. If you have in the past, send a link or something.
I like almost everyone I meet regardless of what “race” they belong to. (I have reasons for putting the word in quotes, and they aren’t what most would think.) I might disagree with the individuals themselves, but that comes from what they believe more than anything else.
So do what the blacks did and buy the spots to be shown to support your favorite ethnic group. If only blacks are spending the money, maybe they are the only ones who feel the need to get the message out. It isn’t that hard to figure out: blacks notice that they get a lot of bad press, in general, and they get especially hit hard on TV when there are so many examples of blacks as thugd or crooks on TV. (Heck, you’re the one who pointed out the inherent bias in Court TV.) They choose to display the message that there have been many blacks that have made positive contributions to society in the same medium, and you come along and complain that they are guilty of “selective promotion.”
Damned if they do; damned if they don’t.
BTW:
Maybe they just don’t like the chip on your shoulder. I’ve lived in nearly all-black neighborhoods twice and I’ve only been hassled once–and all he did was throw out a cat-call from his porch. I’m sure that there are blacks who hassle white guys in “black” territory–just as there are whites who hassle blacks they find in “white” territory, but the fact that you claim that you “can’t walk in” without being hassled seems to indicate less a problem with the environment and that maybe something else is going on.
My missing post was going to be on these lines precisely, Thanks Tom.
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Again, what I was going to say, since I have had more or less the same experience – worst thing I ever got was something along a catcall. Even in bars.
Strikes me that far too many people have exagerated fears of the “other.” All around.
All right now, to both of you people.
I live in a different area of the US, with a moderately sized Black population, mainly sectioned off into communities. Around here, not too many nonresidential White men can walk into a Black bar without drawing comments. Now, you both are real darn quick to assume that any White who experiences difficulties in a Black neighborhood is automatically at fault, for displaying racist behavior or carrying a chip on his shoulder but you fail to even assume that Blacks can be just as racist as Whites, especially on their home turf.
You both are stuck between floors in your opinions.
You think I’m stupid enough to walk into a Black bar in the middle of a Black community and display an attitude? Round here, folks, that gets a White body turning up in a dumpster across the street. You two are kidding yourselves by blaming everything on Whites.
As for the advertisements and all, many of these are station sponsored bits, paid for by the station. Many kid shows are still displaying Black History segments, paid for by the producers, with a high emphasis about the ‘Bad White folks’. I just watched one on Nickelodeon, with my daughter, about the first Black baseball teams, and 50% of it was all about how they could not even shower in the White showers after games, had to use separate bathrooms, drinking fountains, could not eat in many restaurants and so on. The first part of the program bit was fine, with emphasis placed on the great skills and acts of the players, great names mentioned and how eventually they got into the White leagues. But they just had to throw in the segregation episode with absolutely no mention of Whites working to end the segregation.
Every day, this program shows Black history, but does not show any Asian, Hispanic nor White segments. I, for one, am real tired of hearing about how the ‘po’ down trodden Black triumphed over the savage, bullying White man’ all by themselves. From what I’ve been hearing from the kids, they’re getting tired of it also and wondering why only the Blacks are mentioned and no one else.
So, don’t give me that bunk that Blacks are paying for the segments.
Newspapers and other media do not get paid to announce Black History month as much as they do and Blacks alone are not responsible for promoting national Black History month. Heck, you hear it on talk shows, on radio shows, see it in cartoon shows, and it’s all over the news media.
Those other historical months do not get the coverage Black History month does.
I find a lot of Black sitcoms on the tube, sponsored by White owned production companies, but no sitcoms concerning Asians or Hispanics. These sitcoms are being pushed because of political correctness and White guilt.
I’ve watched the ‘Parkers’, a Black sitcom about two fat Black women who think they’re sexy and it sucks, but since it is a Black program, it will stay on the air. I used to watch ‘Good Times’ and it was good, created by a White producer. I watched ‘the Fresh Prince,’ which I considered stupid, but it was a good show. The ‘Cosby show’ I figured sucked, but that was because ol’ Bill’s humor and style had changed over the years. ‘Moesha’ started out good and fair, but soon deteriorated into Black only situations that got annoying.
Curiously, the only Hispanic television sitcom I recall was ‘Chico and the Man,’ which I liked. I’ve not come across any Asian based sitcoms.
Because of Black lawsuits over racism, TV and movies are now putting on Black movies and shows. Not out of any great understanding, but for money, from pressure and because of the NAACP’s quick ability to slap discrimination suits.
None of the other races do this, so they’re ignored. When was the last time you saw a show based on an American Indian? When was the last time an Asian made the news in a discrimination suit? When was the last time any Hispanic group started yelling in the media about discrimination. Know of any Hispanic, Asian or American Indian colleges?
When was the last time you saw a historical advertisement about White people struggling against English oppression?
Currently, everyone is so afraid of being politically incorrect that the Blacks have an artificially open shot to the media with the ability to say whatever they choose. To censor them, like is done with everyone else, is considered discrimination.
Now, I don’t like this. I want equal time and advantages in these spots for all races.
Concerning the Black image in TV and movies, well, Black producers insist on making movies about Black thugs, Home Boyz, Drug dealers and ganges. Especially Spike Lee, who has no problem portraying his people as criminals, yet he walked out once on a White produced film because it did not have enough Blacks in it. Black actors happily take these roles promoting poor racial stereotypes.
Look at the Black rappers who deliberately promote an obnoxious Black lifestyle, even though, like many rock stars, they do it to sell records. They are not helping their people to develop a better image.
The Blacks who do, like those in ER as doctors, in cop movies, as policemen, as detectives, in military movies as DIs, pilots, as comedians in movies who don’t harp on race or even as the guy who played the father in Good Times, do not get the recognition they deserve by the Black community.
Damned if they do and damned if they don’t? Well, yeah because they do it to themselves.
The OJ farce was a great example of their desire of equal justice. Boy, that went right out the window. I keep thinking of the LA riots, where they burned up their own community in protest, shot at medical workers, cops and fire fighters trying to save them and are still proud of it, even though most of the nonblank business owners have not returned and the area is worse off than it ever was.
I don’t recall American Indians, Asians nor Hispanics doing anything like this stuff.
So, yeah, I can see where others would resent their race. Anyone have affirmative action for Asians?
I mean, they want equality, but want more advantages than anyone else and their own people take advantage of them in movies and they allow it.
You might not have had my experiences, so what gives you the audacity to judge me by comparing me with your own limited incidents?
My form of bigotry was not given to me by my family or peer group, but by experience and it came late in life. The news helped a whole lot, along with the crime statistics and then encounters. My daughter plays with Black kids, mainly boys over at her mothers house and it sets my teeth on edge, but I carefully avoid saying anything negative about it, trying to let her grow up with her own values, but, as I have stated previously, even she has begun to grow annoyed with all of this emphasis on Blacks and wonders why none of the other races in her school get such coverage.
It’s not helping her to be told every time a Black History clip comes on that her ancestors were cruel, inhuman monsters towards the Blacks either. Good Black history clips, telling about inventors, researchers, teachers, doctors and lawyers are rarely shown without a pointed reference to how they had to struggle against the White beasts and triumphanted over them.
Come on! Can the historical records be any more slanted? At least in the histroy books with the national struggles, good and bad is mentioned between countries and famous people involved. The British are not portrayed as always evil bastards towards Americans, and the Whites are not always portrayed as genocidal maniacs in relation to the American Indians, the same with the French and the Spanish, the English and the Italians and so on.
I caught a comment on the cartoon show ‘Recess’ that I disagreed with and am getting damned tired of, which has nothing to do with Blacks, but is indicative of Political Correctness. In a scene where a teacher was setting up the class to study history, she stated that they were going to learn about how the White man swindled the American Indians out of most of their land.
It seems to me that Manhatten was purchased from them. It was a business deal, just like businesses today will take advantage of anyone selling something they want and not knowing the real value of the item.
I’m getting tired of this crap. That was in the past. I’m real tired of being hit in the head with all of this stuff today, which generates resentment and hard feelings in kids learning it for the first time.
Lets have an even playing field with history and race presentation, shall we? I grew up in an era with seperate facilities for Blacks, and never agreed with them then. Blacks used to step out of line if they were standing in front of my mom at a bank and she would not have that. They were there first and that was their spot. She would not let them step out. My family had Black neighbors as friends when I was an infant when it was not popular to have them, let alone live close to them.
My opinions have been generated by experience and the PC era of today is not helping things at all.
I might not dislike all Blacks, but I can lump them alltogether. Just like many northerners lump all Jews together, all Hispanics together and all Italians together.
So, go ahead and be holier than me, but you’ve not walked in my shoes and it offends me that you feel I’m stupid enough to be biased to an extent from peer pressure or rumors and innuendo. You’re talking out of your hats.
Bloody hell, these threads just never end well, do they?
Uno: never said that blacks could not be more racist than Whites. You’re reading a whole lot into the observations.
Second: What makes you think where I’m taking about is that different.
For those in the know, my experiences relevant to the Q are based around fringe of Bed-Stuy, Brooklyn, late 1980s, early 1990s – nice brownstones but real bad things happening. I found one could get along. Same experience some years later in Columbia Hieghts, DC. Your assumption that you’re going to face hostility and violence walking into a “black bar” says a lot.
I say it depends. In some dive, yeah, probably. In a bar in a solid section where people with jobs go, I think you’re making unwarrented assumptions. Bad vibes breed bad vibes.
What I think is your attitude, fear is going to show through as much as it does in print here, regardless of what you think you’re displaying. Discomfort can be painfully obvious, and one thing I’ve learned is folks tuned into being shunned on the basis of their identity become hyper-aware – to the point of reading what’s not there also.
I’m not, that’s you reading too much into this. (And your reading says a lot in the process) I’m saying you’re making gross and unwarrented generalization on the basis of race, e.g. in re “blacks”. I’m also saying that based on personal experience in neighborhoods which had crime rates to make some people’s hair stand on end, I personally was able to get along, suggesting your blanket assertion is wrong. Reflects your fear.
So, trying to build their market.
Well, that’s what the history was, yes? What do you want, that we pretend this stuff did not go down? Better a bit of brutal honesty than white-washed pablum.
So you want a fig leaf, that’s it? Not having seen the show (as you know I’m not in the States so…) it’s hard to judge your judgement, but
Big deal, white history is the every day history, per the linked discussion. You may have a point in re Asian, although that’s fairly brief in terms of N Am or Hispanic history, but I would guess it depends on local demographics.
Aside from your stupid, fake use of dialect, my experience has not been that black history month programs denied white assistance in the civil rights movement, although they do focus on what black people did.
Sounds to me like you have issues.
I wonder if the adults have nothing to do with this… Rolls eyes. Right this is all in a vacuum.
What’s bunk? Let’s take a look at this.
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Newspapers and other media do not get paid to announce Black History month as much as they do and Blacks alone are not responsible for promoting national Black History month. Heck, you hear it on talk shows, on radio shows, see it in cartoon shows, and it’s all over the news media.
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Meeting your market. There’s a demand. Sounds like you just don’t want exposure, period.
Demand, history, demand. Local demographics too. NYC seems to be plenty of Hispanic stuff when time rolls around.
“Pushed”? Boy, you do have issues don’t you. The r word comes to mind. Let’s think about your assumptions here: (a) production companies are white, ergo white guilt. (b) black focused sitcoms must be for blacks. © corralary, 90% of other American TV must be for whites.
Are you truly incapable of seeing the illogic in your position --one suspects so, but… In re Asians, of course the demographics aren’t there yet to support the same. In re Hispanics, there is not one but two networks devoted to Spanish language programming which, to my knowledge, reach most major Hispanic population centers in the USA. Evidently you are unaware of them, but in any case, this rather makes your point ridiculous and false.
Argument from ignorance is hardly effective.
Hmm, I’ve watched Friends, it sucks in my opinion. Obviously for whites, yet it stays on the air…
Your assumption that its staying on the air for political reasons is supported by what data? Perhaps if you step out of your bigoted world view, and frankly that is what it is, you might toy with the concept that the target audience (a) enjoys the show (b) audience share supports an advertiser base necessary to keep the show running.
Good lord, so by your judgement shows have to meet your tastes in order to be valid.
How’s this? I consider all those professional wrestling shows to be appaling appeals to white trailer trash culture. Clealry there must be no support for this, thus it must be a politically correct play for white trailer trash support and advertisers are only attracted to this because of white trailer trash pressure.
Your logic is both appalling and fallacious.
Curiously, you’re ignorant of the existance of two spanish language networks.
Argument by assertion. We are forbidden, I suppose, to consider the idea that success of black themed entertainment, outside your narrow world-view, has proven successfull, profitable and therefore worthy of pursuit, both in targetted market terms and in terms of mass markets.
I’m sure you’re not going to like this, but frankly you’ve not a clue.
I’m not going to bother with the rest of your spew. Your unwarrented and frankly unfactual assertions and generalizations betray some deep-seated prejudices. Keep them if you want, but they are quite clear.
I’m racist. I know it, I hate it, I do my best to fight it. I certainly don’t let my racist preconceptions color my opinion of individuals, but struggle to give them the same chances that I give everyone.
This race, Race L, are fairly widespread in my region. They have a lot of good characteristics, and are very family orientated, which is admirable. However, there is a tendency amongst them to turn to alcohol to solve life’s problems. This is bad. This means that my contact with them is usually limited to encounters on the streets when they have been drinking. No one makes a good impression when they’ve been drinking all day, and you come across them at three in the afternoon throwing up in a public phone booth. But I know this doesn’t mean that ALL members of Race L are heavy drinkers - the ones who are good, quiet people are at home living good quiet lives, looking after their good queit children, and doing nothing to call attention to themselves. It’s the troublemakers that bring them a bad name, and it’s sad that the troublemakers are all too visible.
The few members of Race L that I have chanced to encounter socially have been lovely people, with only one noteable exception. I consider them my friends, and their race doesn’t come into it at all, however I’m always disgusted with myself when I hear an unflattering story about one of their race, and the word that springs to mind is “Typical”. No! Not typical! STEREOtypical! I know better than that, so why do I think like that?? I would be ashamed to face one of my friends and say “I react like this when I hear things about your race”, because I wouldn’t believe it if someone told me that story using the name of my friend rather than the generic “A Member of Race L”.
Do you understand what I’m saying? It’s an unpleasant, knee-jerk reaction for me to assume the worst about a race I’ve had no problems with, simply because I’ve grown up hearing bad things about them, and seeing the worst of their ilk at their worst on the streets. I know most of them are good, law abiding, decent people, but I judge them on the behaviour of people they probably wouldn’t associate with simply because they are part of the same race. I hate it, and I hate myself when I do it.
I hope I don’t pass my silly prejudices on to my children. I would want them to take people as they come, rather than judge them on their race. I hope I grow out of this nonsense myself. The only race that can claim any superiority over another is canine - dogs are the best people. The rest all suck equally.
Cazzle-I get that feeling sometimes too. Like I said, with some of the foreign exchange students, who are giving me a bad impression. SOME, not all. I’ve known quite a few who were nice, polite, well-spoken and extremely well-educated. Yet some are very loud and rude and obnoxious.
We’re ALL racist at one point or another. What matters is that we recognize it’s wrong, and try to change it.
Not long enough. See below.
Last time I looked, I belonged to the only race: Homo Sapiens Sapiens. Unless you want to being up Venusians or something, your question is moot.
And for the record, I don’t like most of the race, especially the dipwads at 20th Century Fox who didn’t make FIncher go back and re-shoot the last two-thirds of Fight Club to be as relevant and sensical as the first third.
Not that I watched it last night or anything.
I don’t know that I buy that it can’t be helped. With diligence, i think it can be overcome. But I can appreciate that someone might not want to take the time and energy to overcome it.
However, I think it is important to make clear that “understanding” how someone feels cannot and should never be construed as any kind of support for it. The only way it can ever be stamped out is with ruthless shunning of any such feelings. That way, even if such feelings happen to persist in a few stubborn souls, it will remain their own private hell and not be played out in the world, which is how it should be.
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SpyderA48, Sorry I’m just now responding to your comments to me. I’ve been busy.
Um, well you’re honest at least about how you feel about blacks and hispanics. It took a lot of guts for you to write what you did, or maybe you don’t realize how racist your comments are. But the first step to healing oneself–if that is what you intend to do–is to recognize that you are racist. Only then can you devise strategies to overcome it.
After reading all of the things that you’ve written in this thread, particularly your response to me, I must admit that I don’t know where to begin. One of the most problematic statements you’ve made is: “When you get a group of people who clump together protectively, refuse to accept the attitudes, morals, regular rules and attitudes of the majority, native population, plus cultivate traditional home styles of the land they fled, you are going to get a form of racism.” What are these “attitudes” and “morals” that you refer to? And who is the “majority”? If you have people from different cultures or even if you have people from one culture, I can just about guarantee you that you’ll get a variety of definitions for these terms. You’ve got some serious issues with people/races who don’t conform to your definition of “normal.” If they aren’t white, skinny, and happy and smiling and ready to come shake your hand, then they’re abnormal. For you to speak as if you have the definitive word on how anyone else BUT yourself should conduct themselves is arrogant and conceited on your part, and I frankly find it offensive. To assume that you are the authority on how people should conform to anything is illogical in the extreme. How can you presume to generalize about any race of people, especially your own?
In your response to me, you say that you think that you see “more Whites bending over backwards to end racism than I do Blacks or Hispanics.” Really? Now I find that particularly interesting given how segregated the majority of American neighborhoods are. I ask you HOW are Whites–since you’ve elected yourself spokesman for them–reaching out to minorities to get to know them as individuals rather than as the embodiment of the stereotypes perpetuated in the media? It seems to me that anytime there is talk of ending racism, the responsibility for “reaching out” is delegated to minorities. The expectation is for minorities to assimilate into white culture and adopt white values, whatever those might be. It appears that you think that the blame rests entirely on the shoulders of minorities if racist attitudes persist–well, they’re not going to disappear overnight–or minorities display continued mistrust of white people.
You say you’re a people watcher. Well, I think you need to TAKE A GOOD LOOK AT YOURSELF. I will end my response to your words with this comment. I feel sorry for your children. I think from what you’ve said about your daughter’s reaction to her black friends and the documentary on the Negro baseball league that she’s probably already picked up your racist “attitudes” about what’s normal and what’s not.
Get help. If not for yourself, then for your children.
Well, if you treat every true statement as “bunk,” I suppose I could write off your opinions as those of a willfully ignorant person who simply enjoys believing falsehoods to support his own hatreds. Your call.
The spots that you see broadcast have to be written, produced, directed, acted (or drawn/animated) and narrated. Every one of those tasks requires that a human be paid. Most of them require that a professional corporation be paid enough money to provide a profit.
Once all that money has been spent (by organizations who have raised private money for black causes), then the segment is available to the broadcast station. On some occasions, the stations will accept the segment as a community relations piece (as they are required by law to provide) and bump out a piece from MADD or the Red Cross Blood Drive, or the Traffic Safety Council or some such “community” organization. On other occasions, the group that paid to have the show produced will actually buy commercial air time.
So. We have some commercials that are aired “free” to satisfy “community service” time required by the FCC (so somebody was going to use it free, anyway), and some commericals that are paid for directly in the usual way, and all the commercials were created using private funds.
For you to claim that it is “bunk that Blacks are paying for the segments” demonstrates that you are utterly ignorant or that you are willfully lying. I don’t see any other options.
(And, Collounsbury has addressed this, but I feel some response is called for:
I have not blamed “everything” on any one, white, black, or chartreuse. I challenged your assertion that you “could not” walk into a black bar without being hassled. I suspect that blacks in white areas and whites in black areas are subject to some hassles, but I don’t make the sweeping generalization that you do that the only possible outcome of a meeting is bad.)
You claim that you are trying to raise your kids to not hate anyone, but your posts, here, are filled with fear bordering on hate. Your kids are not creating their own impressions, they are simply reflecting your own attitudes.