# Is there a reason CalD's GD thread is still going on? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 19, 2009, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-reason-calds-gd-thread-is-still-going-on/481985 "2009-01-19T14:19:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2009, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-reason-calds-gd-thread-is-still-going-on/481985/21 "2009-01-19T17:24:01Z")
> [@Ataraxy](#): > > CalD’s entire argument rests on the notion that a Creator just feels more right, which doesn’t fly in GD. Anyone arguing with CalD in that thread is wasting their breath. I recognized that early on in the process and bailed on that thread. I get enough of that sort of mindset at work. I wonder if **CalD** is a Calvinist? :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Claptree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/58f4c7/32.png) [@Claptree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Claptree)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2009, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-reason-calds-gd-thread-is-still-going-on/481985/22 "2009-01-19T17:25:32Z")
I have to admit to a certain admiration of his debating style. It’s like he’s two different people. I’m waiting for the delicious irony of when he finally quotes one of his own posts in his eagerness to point out that every post in that thread is an unproven and unprovable assertion. ---
**Author:** ![Acid\_Lamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Acid\_Lamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acid_Lamp)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2009, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-reason-calds-gd-thread-is-still-going-on/481985/23 "2009-01-19T17:34:20Z")
> [@Claptree](#): > > I have to admit to a certain admiration of his debating style. It’s like he’s two different people. I’m waiting for the delicious irony of when he finally quotes one of his own posts in his eagerness to point out that every post in that thread is an unproven and unprovable assertion. I’m waiting for him to use the [Chewbacca Defense tactic.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=up5dt_PK_7c) It makes about as much sense as anything he’s used so far. ---
**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2009, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-reason-calds-gd-thread-is-still-going-on/481985/24 "2009-01-19T19:27:33Z")
> [@Terrifel](#): > > Maybe the problem is that the rest of you are too smart. 😕 That’s a problem? It hasn’t been a glaring problem from what I can tell. ---
**Author:** ![Man\_With\_a\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cab0a1/32.png) [@Man\_With\_a\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Man_With_a_Cat)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2009, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-reason-calds-gd-thread-is-still-going-on/481985/25 "2009-01-19T19:39:19Z")
Sometimes, just reading a thread gets me drunk. ---
**Author:** ![Huerta88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/82dd89/32.png) [@Huerta88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Huerta88)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2009, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-reason-calds-gd-thread-is-still-going-on/481985/26 "2009-01-19T19:39:56Z")
You find the seven pages of that debate more offensive than the nine pages of troll-feeding in the 9/11 wreckage thread? ---
**Author:** ![CaerieD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/da6949/32.png) [@CaerieD](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaerieD)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2009, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-reason-calds-gd-thread-is-still-going-on/481985/27 "2009-01-19T19:46:17Z")
I’m starting to think this is just a big joke to fuck with the people too stubborn to leave that thread. ---
**Author:** ![Terrifel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@Terrifel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terrifel)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2009, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-reason-calds-gd-thread-is-still-going-on/481985/28 "2009-01-19T19:47:23Z")
> [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](#): > > 😕 That’s a problem? It hasn’t been a glaring problem from what I can tell. Well, I’m not saying it’s a problem in general; but in this instance I think some GD participants may be overreacting slightly. “How is it that this thread is allowed to continue to exist?! Can you not see how this fiendish mastermind is craftily feigning ignorance in order to subvert the forums to their diabolical agenda?” I’m just saying that the thread started in IMHO, so there’s nothing wrong with treating it as a humble opinion. Just substitute “my cat” for “a Creator,” and “is the cutest cat ever” for “is necessary to explain the universe.” ---
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2009, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-reason-calds-gd-thread-is-still-going-on/481985/29 "2009-01-19T19:49:34Z")
I call “troll.” He claims to be an atheist or an agnostic but neither of those would argue so fervently for the existence of an intelligent Creator since that’s y’know, a god no matter what you call it. ---
**Author:** ![Acid\_Lamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Acid\_Lamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acid_Lamp)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2009, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-reason-calds-gd-thread-is-still-going-on/481985/30 "2009-01-19T20:06:35Z")
> [@Huerta88](#): > > You find the seven pages of that debate more offensive than the nine pages of troll-feeding in the 9/11 wreckage thread? If that’s aimed at me, I didn’t read the 9-11 one. **Terrifel** , I’m just trying to figure out what value the thread in question has. I don’t usually call for a thread closing, but this one seems to be nothing but trolling. ---
**Author:** ![MsRobyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MsRobyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsRobyn)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2009, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-reason-calds-gd-thread-is-still-going-on/481985/31 "2009-01-19T20:11:23Z")
> [@Mr Bus Guy](#): > > Sometimes, just reading a thread gets me drunk. That’s not “drunk” you’re feeling. That’s “the same sensation one gets when they’re clubbed over the head.” Robin ---
**Author:** ![Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/half_man_half_wit/32/21766_2.png) [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Half_Man_Half_Wit)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2009, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-reason-calds-gd-thread-is-still-going-on/481985/32 "2009-01-19T20:13:48Z")
> [@MsRobyn](#): > > That’s not “drunk” you’re feeling. That’s “the same sensation one gets when they’re clubbed over the head.” > > Robin Either way, it involves the brutal murder of brain cells. ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2009, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-reason-calds-gd-thread-is-still-going-on/481985/33 "2009-01-19T20:15:03Z")
> [@](#): > > What’s so unpleasant about being drunk? > > Ask a glass of water! D. Adams ---
**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2009, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-reason-calds-gd-thread-is-still-going-on/481985/34 "2009-01-19T20:22:48Z")
> [@Q.E.D](#): > > I call “troll.” If by troll, you mean someone that has done this topic before (religion and God) and pretty much in this same format, then I’d have to agree. **CalD** has started several threads since 2005 with the same theme that went the same way. If by troll, you mean someone that doesn’t believe what they’re saying, I’d probably disagree since I don’t know what he’s thinking. > [@Q.E.D](#): > > He claims to be an atheist or an agnostic but neither of those would argue so fervently for the existence of an intelligent Creator since that’s y’know, a god no matter what you call it. Cite. If you were going to cite this: > [@Is the existence of a Creator just more sensical?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-existence-of-a-creator-just-more-sensical/481867/3): > > Nope, not at all. I happily fluttered between atheism and agnosticism for years. My belief in a creator is based purely on the “evidence” I see before me. don’t bother. That’s not what it says. To the OP: I’ve only read two pages of the linked thread, but so far, the people trying to do the convincing that an intelligent designer doesn’t exist are making a pretty poor showing. > [@Terrifel](#): > > Well, I’m not saying it’s a problem in general; but in this instance I think some GD participants may be overreacting slightly. While I’ve only read two pages of the thread, the GD participants don’t seem to be doing much of anything that’s convincing so far. I’ll read more and see if I understand what you mean. ---
**Author:** ![Fantome](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9c0ed/32.png) [@Fantome](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fantome)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2009, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-reason-calds-gd-thread-is-still-going-on/481985/35 "2009-01-19T20:39:28Z")
> [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](#): > > If by troll, you mean someone that has done this topic before (religion and God) and pretty much in this same format, then I’d have to agree. **CalD** has started several threads since 2005 with the same theme that went the same way. > If by troll, you mean someone that doesn’t believe what they’re saying, I’d probably disagree since I don’t know what he’s thinking. He’s a troll because he cherry picks which statements he’s going to respond to and ignores others that reveal that he’s contradicted himself and made incorrect statements about scientific facts. He’s not interested in getting anywhere meaningful in that thread. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2009, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-reason-calds-gd-thread-is-still-going-on/481985/36 "2009-01-19T21:18:53Z")
> [@Fantome](#): > > He’s a troll because he cherry picks which statements he’s going to respond to and ignores others that reveal that he’s contradicted himself and made incorrect statements about scientific facts. He’s not interested in getting anywhere meaningful in that thread. Shit, if that were the definition of a troll, we’d have to close down GD entirely. ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2009, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-reason-calds-gd-thread-is-still-going-on/481985/37 "2009-01-19T21:40:06Z")
> [@Sr\_Siete](#): > > Sorry, we couldn’t print the agendas this year. We spent all our money putting ads on London’s buses. Would you settle for a Jewish agenda? Or just get a copy of the liberal agenda, it’s got the others attached. ---
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2009, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-reason-calds-gd-thread-is-still-going-on/481985/38 "2009-01-19T22:21:29Z")
> [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](#): > > That’s not what it says. Actually, yes, it does. I fail to see how else one could read it. He’s either an atheist or an agnostic now (I have no idea which hence the OR); there aren’t any other choices offered. ---
**Author:** ![Fantome](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9c0ed/32.png) [@Fantome](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fantome)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2009, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-reason-calds-gd-thread-is-still-going-on/481985/39 "2009-01-19T22:25:52Z")
> [@Q.E.D](#): > > Actually, yes, it does. I fail to see how else one could read it. He’s either an atheist or an agnostic now (I have no idea which hence the OR); there aren’t any other choices offered. Seriously? He said _“I happily fluttered between atheism and agnosticism for years.”_ Since his next sentence is _“My belief in a creator is based purely on the “evidence” I see before me.”_, the obvious way to read it is that he has fluttered between atheism and agnosticism for years and has since become a theist. ---
**Author:** ![Baldwin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baldwin/32/7264_2.png) [@Baldwin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baldwin)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2009, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-reason-calds-gd-thread-is-still-going-on/481985/40 "2009-01-20T00:08:26Z")
> [@CaerieD](#): > > If everybody just refused to engage him, he could go back to bitching about those slutty women who have sex before marriage. Well, such women should be chastized. If you can provide a list of names and phone numbers, I’ll get right to it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-reason-calds-gd-thread-is-still-going-on/481985.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-reason-calds-gd-thread-is-still-going-on/481985.md?page=3)