# Is there a reason CalD's GD thread is still going on? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 19, 2009, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-reason-calds-gd-thread-is-still-going-on/481985 "2009-01-19T14:19:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2009, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-reason-calds-gd-thread-is-still-going-on/481985/41 "2009-01-20T02:18:24Z")
Because a number of posters appear to take more pleasure in humoring the OP than in ignoring the OP. The thread is on-topic, (for its stated OP), so there is no reason to shut it down as having been hijacked and it is only marginally more nonsensical than the vast majority of “is too/is not” battles that rage over deities in **GD**. ---
**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2009, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-reason-calds-gd-thread-is-still-going-on/481985/42 "2009-01-20T02:31:16Z")
> [@Q.E.D](#): > > Actually, yes, it does. I fail to see how else one could read it. He’s either an atheist or an agnostic now (I have no idea which hence the OR); there aren’t any other choices offered. Huh. No other choices? I’m beginning to see the problem. No one is reading what he’s saying. The answer is right here: > [@Is the existence of a Creator just more sensical?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-existence-of-a-creator-just-more-sensical/481867/232): > > Again, I was asked what was the evidence that the Creator exists in a non-physical, timeless state. If my starting assertion is true (matter was created by the creator), then it is a logical inferred conclusion to draw. Responding by disagreeing with the premise is totally missing the point. And that’s the point. IF – gigantic IF – the starting assertion is true, and the starting assertion is that matter was created by the creator, then everything follows from there that you can make a logical argument for a creator. The problem is that theists start from the assertion that God exists and non-theists start with the assertion that God does not exist. Is he playing y’all? Well, is it really his fault that no one in that thread is reading what he’s saying? ETA: Just saw **tomndebb** ’s post. Since I don’t frequent GD too much, I don’t know how much nonsensical stuff gets posted there. From my viewpoint, there was quite a bit of atheist nonsense in that thread as well. ---
**Author:** ![Superfluous\_Parentheses](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8edcca/32.png) [@Superfluous\_Parentheses](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superfluous_Parentheses)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2009, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-reason-calds-gd-thread-is-still-going-on/481985/43 "2009-01-20T02:41:36Z")
> [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](#): > > To the OP: I’ve only read two pages of the linked thread, but so far, the people trying to do the convincing that an intelligent designer doesn’t exist are making a pretty poor showing. > > While I’ve only read two pages of the thread, the GD participants don’t seem to be doing much of anything that’s convincing so far. I’ll read more and see if I understand what you mean. The reason nobody can come up with a decent argument is because CalD is moving the goal-posts, ignoring basically everybody and then accuses people of not answering his questions when they already have been answered or they’re not questions at all. Read a couple of pages more. Since the thread started in IMHO I started out fairly softly, but I haven’t seen any indication of him even TRYING to read/understand any of the serious replies in that thread. ---
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2009, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-reason-calds-gd-thread-is-still-going-on/481985/44 "2009-01-20T02:42:32Z")
I’m not really sure we should be taking advice on how to read other’s posts from someone who went completely anal over the use of the word _proof_ in a thread title. But, perhaps that’s just me. ---
**Author:** ![LouisB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@LouisB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouisB)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2009, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-reason-calds-gd-thread-is-still-going-on/481985/45 "2009-01-20T13:29:15Z")
> [@matt\_mcl](#): > > “1) Don’t get killed; 2) a decent brunch. That’s it!” - Elvira Kurt > > "1) Full civil rights. Gay marriage, gay adoption, anti-discrimination laws, gays in the military, gay scouts, gay police, gay teachers, and anything else we can think of to frighten Pat Buchanan. > "2) We want the national anthem to come out in a 25-minute dance version. > “I think that’s very reasonable.” > > - Bob Smith I’d never considered a dance version of the national anthem, although it might be a good idea; I’ll have to think about it. Otherwise, I agree with all the above so I guess I must be mostly gay after all. Not that there is anything wrong with that. Or is it possible that I just might be a gay sympathizer? Does it have to be all or nothing? ---
**Author:** ![LouisB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@LouisB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouisB)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2009, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-reason-calds-gd-thread-is-still-going-on/481985/46 "2009-01-20T13:31:03Z")
> [@Sr\_Siete](#): > > Sorry, we couldn’t print the agendas this year. We spent all our money putting ads on London’s buses. Would you settle for a Jewish agenda? I’d love a Jewish agenda, just to fight my ignorance if for no other reason. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2009, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-reason-calds-gd-thread-is-still-going-on/481985/47 "2009-01-20T14:37:30Z")
> [@LouisB](#): > > I’d never considered a dance version of the national anthem, although it might be a good idea; I’ll have to think about it. Otherwise, I agree with all the above so I guess I must be mostly gay after all. Not that there is anything wrong with that. Or is it possible that I just might be a gay sympathizer? Does it have to be all or nothing? If a communist sympathizer is pink, what the heck is a gay sympathizer? Rosé? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2009, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-reason-calds-gd-thread-is-still-going-on/481985/48 "2009-01-20T14:41:51Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > If a communist sympathizer is pink, what the heck is a gay sympathizer? Rosé? Better dressed. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2009, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-reason-calds-gd-thread-is-still-going-on/481985/49 "2009-01-20T19:11:53Z")
> [@LouisB](#): > > I’d love a Jewish agenda, just to fight my ignorance if for no other reason. If it involves the availability of decent pastrami and decent bagels in every city, I wish we’d get on with it already. I’m dying here. As for the thread in question, it is a bit fun to see someone go down from an initial low level, like going from doubting the Big Bang to doubting evolution. These threads are for playing to the gallery, anyhow, not for convincing the invincibly ignorant. ---
**Author:** ![SiXSwordS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/49beb7/32.png) [@SiXSwordS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SiXSwordS)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2009, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-reason-calds-gd-thread-is-still-going-on/481985/50 "2009-01-20T20:37:01Z")
> [@Terrifel](#): > > Try approaching **CalD** ’s argument as if it were a thread about cat pictures or something. That’s essentially what it is as it stands. “Look at these atoms, aren’t they too000 kewt!!!11!! How can you look at those electron clouds and not believe in a creator?” can I haz yung rth? ---
**Author:** ![LouisB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@LouisB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouisB)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2009, 9:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-reason-calds-gd-thread-is-still-going-on/481985/51 "2009-01-22T09:48:41Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > If a communist sympathizer is pink, what the heck is a gay sympathizer? Rosé? I don’t know. But, I’m pretty sure that J. Edgar Hoover would have said they are one and the same. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2009, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-reason-calds-gd-thread-is-still-going-on/481985/52 "2009-01-22T12:19:41Z")
I have a really old copy of the communist agenda, but it’s from back in the pre-Gorbachev days. Surely it’s been updated since. Does anyone have a never version? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-reason-calds-gd-thread-is-still-going-on/481985.md?page=2)