# Is there a reason CalD's  GD thread is still going on?

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**Created:** [January 19, 2009, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-reason-calds-gd-thread-is-still-going-on/481985 "2009-01-19T14:19:28Z")\
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> [@Q.E.D](#):
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> Actually, yes, it does. I fail to see how else one could read it. He’s either an atheist or an agnostic now (I have no idea which hence the OR); there aren’t any other choices offered.

Huh. No other choices?

I’m beginning to see the problem. No one is reading what he’s saying. The answer is right here:

> [@Is the existence of a Creator just more sensical?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-existence-of-a-creator-just-more-sensical/481867/232):
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> Again, I was asked what was the evidence that the Creator exists in a non-physical, timeless state. If my starting assertion is true (matter was created by the creator), then it is a logical inferred conclusion to draw. Responding by disagreeing with the premise is totally missing the point.

And that’s the point. IF – gigantic IF – the starting assertion is true, and the starting assertion is that matter was created by the creator, then everything follows from there that you can make a logical argument for a creator. The problem is that theists start from the assertion that God exists and non-theists start with the assertion that God does not exist.

Is he playing y’all? Well, is it really his fault that no one in that thread is reading what he’s saying?  
ETA: Just saw **tomndebb** ’s post. Since I don’t frequent GD too much, I don’t know how much nonsensical stuff gets posted there. From my viewpoint, there was quite a bit of atheist nonsense in that thread as well.

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