# Is there a specific rule about advocating Naziism?
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-specific-rule-about-advocating-naziism/628217
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**Created:** [July 14, 2012, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-specific-rule-about-advocating-naziism/628217 "2012-07-14T16:41:05Z")
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### Author:  [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)
#### Post date: [July 14, 2012, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-specific-rule-about-advocating-naziism/628217/1 "2012-07-14T16:41:05Z")
[This guy just got banned for it.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=658421) I looked through the board rules and didn’t see anything about it, and ISTM that it isn’t necessarily being a jerk.
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### Author:  [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)
#### Post date: [July 14, 2012, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-specific-rule-about-advocating-naziism/628217/2 "2012-07-14T16:47:03Z")
Probably considered trolling. It’s obvious the only thing he was going to contribute was trying to spread Nazism.
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### Author:  [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)
#### Post date: [July 14, 2012, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-specific-rule-about-advocating-naziism/628217/3 "2012-07-14T16:54:37Z")
His claim that _“I came to spread the word. 14/88”_ pretty much painted him as a white supremacist. I don’t get it. Most of the board complains when such fools aren’t swiftly banned, and when one is, you’re wondering why?
Props to **Marley** for his swift euthanasia of an obvious under-bridge dweller.
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### Author:  [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)
#### Post date: [July 14, 2012, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-specific-rule-about-advocating-naziism/628217/4 "2012-07-14T16:56:44Z")
I don’t know what your definition of trolling is, but the one I know applies only to people who throw out stuff to get a rise out of people. It’s not trolling if you genuinely believe in your stupid shit. Being a white supremacist is not, in and of itself, a violation of board rules.
ETA: if you are referring to **NDD** , I think people were split about 50/50 on whether to ban him and it had little to do with his specific views. It was more about him shitting in every thread tangientially related to race, and characterizing every post that disagreed with him as a logical fallacy. I didn’t think he should be banned until he called **MrDibble** a rapist, for example, and AIUI that was the straw that broke the mods’ backs.
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### Author:  [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)
#### Post date: [July 14, 2012, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-specific-rule-about-advocating-naziism/628217/5 "2012-07-14T17:02:29Z")
At the very least, he violated the don’t be a jerk rule.
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### Author:  [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)
#### Post date: [July 14, 2012, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-specific-rule-about-advocating-naziism/628217/6 "2012-07-14T17:05:39Z")
He was warned about using slurs. I certainly have no problem with _that_ sort of moderation but I don’t see where he did it again, or anything. Are you saying that advocating Naziism is inherently jerkish?
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### Author:  [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)
#### Post date: [July 14, 2012, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-specific-rule-about-advocating-naziism/628217/7 "2012-07-14T17:14:02Z")
He, by his own words, came to spread the word about white supremacy. I’ll be the first in line to call that being a jerk. Whether he believes in it or not, doesn’t matter. We’ve seen a summer of racial malcontents disrupting the board with their half witted crap, worthless cites, and general douchebaggery.
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### Author:  [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)
#### Post date: [July 14, 2012, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-specific-rule-about-advocating-naziism/628217/8 "2012-07-14T17:37:11Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> He, by his own words, came to spread the word about white supremacy. I’ll be the first in line to call that being a jerk. Whether he believes in it or not, doesn’t matter. We’ve seen a summer of racial malcontents disrupting the board with their half witted crap, worthless cites, and general douchebaggery.
How far will we go down that slippery slope? I also would consider a white supremacist a jerk, but I’m sure others would consider anti-abortion or anti-gay marriage people jerks. How long until all of the above are banned along with people who don’t support GOP tax cuts because a conservative mod considers those people “jerks”?
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### Author:  [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)
#### Post date: [July 14, 2012, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-specific-rule-about-advocating-naziism/628217/9 "2012-07-14T17:37:39Z")
First, they came for the Nazis…
I’m kind of on board with the OP. Kind of. I’m not so bothered the guy was banned, but **Marley’s** explanation seemed inadequate, as it implies that advocating Nazism is against the rules. Is it?
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### Author:  [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)
#### Post date: [July 14, 2012, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-specific-rule-about-advocating-naziism/628217/10 "2012-07-14T18:20:16Z")
> **[SDMB registration agreement as of 12/21/2014](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=650726)**
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> The agreement below spells out the rules by which SDMB users are expected to abide. The purpose of the present revision is to add the language in bold: “If we tell you to refrain from behavior that we regard as uncivil, \*\*or that in our view...
“You agree, through your use of this service, that you will not use the SDMB to post any material that you know or should know is false and/or defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, **hateful** , harassing, obscene, profane, threatening, invasive of a person’s privacy, or in violation of U.S. law.”
Naziism is inherently hateful, so against the rules by definition
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### Author:  [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)
#### Post date: [July 14, 2012, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-specific-rule-about-advocating-naziism/628217/11 "2012-07-14T18:24:55Z")
Oh, come on. When two thirds of us were calling GWB a shitstain, none of us got warnings. It was justified, but certainly hateful.
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### Author:  [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)
#### Post date: [July 14, 2012, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-specific-rule-about-advocating-naziism/628217/12 "2012-07-14T18:36:35Z")
It’s one thing to hate an individual because of the things that he chose to do.
It’s something else to hate every single member of a race just for having different skin.
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### Author:  [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)
#### Post date: [July 14, 2012, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-specific-rule-about-advocating-naziism/628217/13 "2012-07-14T19:52:36Z")
I don’t think advocating Naziism should be disallowed. But in that case it was clear that it wasn’t an academic discussion of the topic. I can see that a combination of some loathsome subjects, and the use of slurs and vitriolic language would be grounds for banning the topic. However, Marley did only provide one warning, then 2 minutes later banned him for other content that could have been included in the first warning. Not that I care about that banning or the shut down of that thread in particular, but a second warning or more inclusive warning should have been given to keep things kosher.
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### Author:  [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)
#### Post date: [July 14, 2012, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-specific-rule-about-advocating-naziism/628217/14 "2012-07-14T20:01:40Z")
I, OTOH, think that Naziism _should_ be banned on the Board (and everywhere else, for that matter.) So props for **Marley** for pulling the trigger on that jerk very promptly.
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### Author:  [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)
#### Post date: [July 14, 2012, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-specific-rule-about-advocating-naziism/628217/15 "2012-07-14T20:22:41Z")
It would appear that the man banned himself by insulting other posters and shitting his nonsense in other threads. That’s the key here. You can argue about how fast it was done or if he should have gotten more warnings (and to be sure, I haven’t tracked through the board trying to find all his posts, nor will I), and certainly a long time poster would have been given more leeway, but given that we’ve been bombed by racists and idiots (often one and the same) lately, I have no problem with our mods ‘pulling weeds’ as it were.
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### Author:  [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)
#### Post date: [July 14, 2012, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-specific-rule-about-advocating-naziism/628217/16 "2012-07-14T21:11:45Z")
> [@TriPolar](#):
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> . . . but a second warning or more inclusive warning should have been given to keep things kosher.
More evidence of the Jewish plot.
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### Author:  [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)
#### Post date: [July 14, 2012, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-specific-rule-about-advocating-naziism/628217/17 "2012-07-14T21:33:56Z")
I can’t believe I missed a neonazi. That was quick.
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### Author:  [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)
#### Post date: [July 14, 2012, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-specific-rule-about-advocating-naziism/628217/18 "2012-07-14T22:03:22Z")
> [@Chimera](#):
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> It would appear that the man banned himself by insulting other posters and shitting his nonsense in other threads.
He didn’t post in any other threads.
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### Author:  [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)
#### Post date: [July 14, 2012, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-specific-rule-about-advocating-naziism/628217/19 "2012-07-14T22:45:23Z")
So it is. Only that thread. I clearly failed my correspondence course in Reading For Comprehension.
I still won’t cry over that banning.
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### Author:  [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)
#### Post date: [July 15, 2012, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-specific-rule-about-advocating-naziism/628217/20 "2012-07-15T03:27:08Z")
I have no problem whatsoever with banning Nazis. Zero tolerance toward them is my rule.
It’s the rule of the US government too. To this day, my wife is still asked on her application to renew her US visa whether she was ever a member of the Nazi Party. An affirmative answer would mean no visa.
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