# Is there a specific rule about advocating Naziism?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-specific-rule-about-advocating-naziism/628217>\
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**Created:** [July 14, 2012, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-specific-rule-about-advocating-naziism/628217 "2012-07-14T16:41:05Z")\
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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2012, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-specific-rule-about-advocating-naziism/628217/101 "2012-07-18T06:08:48Z")

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> [@Stink Fish Pot](#):
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> However, by his second post he referred to “faggots” and in the third, he signed off with the 14/88 thing (I understand the 88, but what’s the connection to 14?)

It’s a reference to the Fourteen Words, a racial survival vow popular with white pride types.

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> I have no problem with his banning, and apologize if it appeared as if I did.

I appreciate the thought, but the apology isn’t necessary. Like I said, I’m surprised that a few people seemed to be questioning the ban in terms of the hate speech issue. I think we’ve been pretty clear about where the line is in terms of how posters express their views, and this guy was way over the line.

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**Author:** ![Jake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jake)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2012, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-specific-rule-about-advocating-naziism/628217/102 "2012-08-19T18:23:25Z")

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> [@jtgain](#):
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> How far will we go down that slippery slope? I also would consider a white supremacist a jerk, but I’m sure others would consider anti-abortion or anti-gay marriage people jerks. How long until all of the above are banned along with people who don’t support GOP tax cuts because a conservative mod considers those people “jerks”?

The guy stated his opinion. Right or wrong, isn’t this what the board’s all about basically? If you don’t agree with his statements (Which I don’t) just close the thread. Don’t read any more of it.  
Isn’t this getting too close to censorship?  
I know, I know, that there are limits to what can be posted, but this guy presented his material in an intelligent, polite manner. I don’t think he was being a troll or a jerk, he was just putting his message (right or wrong) in front of the public.  
I must restate that I do \*\*not \*\*agree with him or his philosophy, but his right to say it. Anywhere. Maybe especially on this board.

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**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2012, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-specific-rule-about-advocating-naziism/628217/103 "2012-08-19T19:27:56Z")

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I don’t care about Neo-Nazis being banned. I’m not interested in reading their drivel, which isn’t even amusing, contrarily to some conspiracy theories, for instance.  
If anything I find the moderation too lenient, specifically with comments about Muslims and/or Arabs that would never pass muster if they were about another group.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2012, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-specific-rule-about-advocating-naziism/628217/104 "2012-08-19T20:44:28Z")

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> [@Musicat](#):
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> Maybe the harm is in the eye of the beholder. To me, “88” is code for, in Amateur Radio Ham lingo, [“hugs and kisses.”](http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=73%20%26%2088)"

And if you used “88” in that context, nobody would have a problem with that. If I say “The Dodgers won the World Series in '88,” it is obvious I am using the number 88 to denote the year an event took place.

If I say “9/11 was a tragic event that killed many people” you know I am referring to the terrorist attacks that took place on September 11, 2011, in New York City, Washington, and Pennsylvania. If I say “Someone is hurt, call 911” you know I am referring to the emergency phone number. If I say “With taxes, the iPad cost me $911” you know I am referring to a sum of money. All the same digits, but all with different meaning obvious to any person with a degree of smarts, beause of context.

A person espousing Nazi beliefs signing off with “14/88” is obviously using it in the context of what it means to the present-day white supremacist movement. There’s a point at which you have to use your head.

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**Author:** ![Gukumatz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/74df32/32.png) [@Gukumatz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gukumatz)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2012, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-specific-rule-about-advocating-naziism/628217/105 "2012-08-26T01:57:41Z")

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Wait, Æsatru AND nazism? This guy needs to either re-read his Håvamål or his nationalsocialist dogma.

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**Author:** ![Steken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e274bd/32.png) [@Steken](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steken)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2012, 9:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-specific-rule-about-advocating-naziism/628217/106 "2012-08-26T09:09:38Z")

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> [@Gukumatz](#):
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> Wait, Æsatru AND nazism? This guy needs to either re-read his Håvamål or his nationalsocialist dogma.

Nothing new there. Neo-Nazis have been trying to combine their thang with Æsatru for as far back as I can remember. David Lane, Varg Vikernes, etc. The list goes on.

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**Author:** ![Uber\_the\_Goober](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/58956e/32.png) [@Uber\_the\_Goober](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uber_the_Goober)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2012, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-specific-rule-about-advocating-naziism/628217/107 "2012-08-26T13:42:05Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> Nazis aren’t all bad. Hell, a nazi killed Hitler, right?

😕 … killed himself… Yeah, I guess you’re right.

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**Author:** ![Steken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e274bd/32.png) [@Steken](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steken)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2012, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-specific-rule-about-advocating-naziism/628217/108 "2012-08-26T13:47:20Z")

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> [@Uber\_the\_Goober](#):
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> 😕 … killed himself… Yeah, I guess you’re right.

Joke.

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