# Is there a trope for 'You know if you had a gun'/ Why are you meleeing?

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**Created:** [July 26, 2021, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-trope-for-you-know-if-you-had-a-gun-why-are-you-meleeing/947289 "2021-07-26T01:55:36Z")\
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**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2021, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-trope-for-you-know-if-you-had-a-gun-why-are-you-meleeing/947289/21 "2021-08-15T01:19:40Z")

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Nah. I’ve seen plenty of MCU movies and I like most of them, for many of the reasons you name. But the endings of sufficiently many conform to this particular painful formula and I hate it whenever it appears. “They’re good except for the bad parts” doesn’t cut it. I’ve sat through them, I know they exist, and I’m entitled to complain about the result.

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**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2021, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-trope-for-you-know-if-you-had-a-gun-why-are-you-meleeing/947289/22 "2021-08-15T02:27:35Z")

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> [@Snarky\_Kong](#):
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> This isn’t necessarily dumb in the context of superheros. Superman can punch waaaay harder than a gun. The characters that have more effective range attacks do use them, but for the Hulk to go for range when his fist is orders of magnitude more devastating would be the stupid thing.

I don’t think anyone’s complaining because the likes of Superman and the Hulk don’t bother with Glocks or AR-15s. But it’s odd that relatively normal people in _Loki_ who worked at the TVA didn’t use projectile weapons to prune anyone.

> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#):
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> Fiction doesn’t have logic. Visual excitement trumps everything. Roger Ebert put out his _Ebert’s Little Movie Glossary_ a quarter century ago, a compendium of idiotic movie cliches that keep getting repeated long after everyone over the age of twelve could spot them. They’ve never change until audiences do. Good luck with that.

And I think this right here is the reason why we see so many fisticuffs. It’s visually exciting and satisfactory in a way that shooting someone isn’t.

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**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2021, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-trope-for-you-know-if-you-had-a-gun-why-are-you-meleeing/947289/23 "2021-08-15T05:04:29Z")

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> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#):
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> Nah. I’ve seen plenty of MCU movies and I like most of them, for many of the reasons you name. But the endings of sufficiently many conform to this particular painful formula and I hate it whenever it appears.

Sure, a totally reasonable position. Hard on the internet to know whether in this quote:

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> Yes, the MCU ends every movie with an unbelievably stupid endless scene in which faceless hordes are punched in the face by the good guys.

The “every” is meant literally or close-to-literally, or is just shorthand for “unfortunately many”.

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**Author:** ![Pavelb1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@Pavelb1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pavelb1)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2021, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-trope-for-you-know-if-you-had-a-gun-why-are-you-meleeing/947289/24 "2021-08-15T05:32:03Z")

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I want to point out that in Infinity War…if they’d had FIVE War Machines up there…the bad guys never would have made it through. And they only downed him when one of the Black Order threw something at him.

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