# Is there a way to fix men?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-way-to-fix-men/504622>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [July 29, 2009, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-way-to-fix-men/504622 "2009-07-29T01:06:36Z")\
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**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-way-to-fix-men/504622/61 "2009-07-29T21:56:29Z")

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I don’t need to be fixed **Marshmallow**. You do.

I’m not the one posting borderline hate speech (or posting a bunch of assertions not backed by cites). Don’t you realize that if you replace phallocracy with gynocracy nothing really changes? You just trade one oppressed group for another, and one set of prejudices for another.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-way-to-fix-men/504622/62 "2009-07-29T22:30:26Z")

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> [@Lightray](#):
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> Almost, but not quite.
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> [spoiler]The women put David Keith’s character back into cold sleep. So they didn’t kill him, they just returned him to limbo, basically.
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> And it was more nuanced. His presence basically caused a love triangle that went bad, _and_ he started an armed rebellion of sabotage because he was annoyed at the passivity of the women. It was strongly implied, though, that the central women’s group really _was_ screwing over the outlying groups as he’d thought. And, of course, his presence in the first place was because the central women’s group was playing experiments by releasing him to see what happened to the outlying settlement. It was revealed that the _other_ cold-sleep men they’d released had been killed.
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> Basically, in the absence of men, the women had become dicks.[/spoiler]

It wasn’t the women’s actions that I had a problem with. It was him being too stupid to realize that his very existence was a major bargaining chip and if he’d deliberately not involved himself in the petty political squabbles and simply offered his skills (and man-meat) to the highest bidder, it would have worked out much better for him and arguably the society in general.

One could argue the women had turned into mannish jerks, but **he** turned into a pussified idiot. I don’t think his brain was in his head **or** his dick.

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-way-to-fix-men/504622/63 "2009-07-29T22:42:12Z")

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> [@Freudian\_Slit](#):
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> I started a new one [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11390629#post11390629).

Since **marshmallow** does not appear to even be interested in this silliness and a new thread is available to discuss actual issues, this thread is closed.

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