# Is there a "White" culture? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [June 7, 2013, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-white-culture/660347 "2013-06-07T01:15:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Tracijo67](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@Tracijo67](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tracijo67)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2013, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-white-culture/660347/101 "2013-06-08T14:50:57Z")
Yeah, I guess I thought that among intelligent people, the historical and current fact of white privilege would just be a given. I am not surprised, but disappointed, to see that I’m wrong. To the ignorant masses who feel that white privilege doesn’t exist: no amount of hard data (which readily exists) will convince an already shut mind to examine other possibilities. I will say that for those of you who are in close relationships with people of color, this is an every day reality for your friends/coworkers. It is as intuitive as the underlying assumptions inherent in a white woman clutching her purse tightly when a young black man passes by and as insidious as not getting the job because, at best, the white person who interviewed you felt more comfortable with the white candidate. It is reflected in the sheer mass if young black men slapped with th death kiss felon label and given lengthy prison sentences for what a more advantaged white person, with a lawyer, would plead down to a misdemeanor. It is inherent even in where cops go looking for crimes. They’ll be all over the inner city street corners looking for rock while Clancy Smith Jr in suburbia throws yet another party for his snorting and shooting in the bathroom white friends. It is plainly evident for those who care to look. To those who at least acknowledge privilege while fearful that they may have to give it up: yeah, that’s what race equity is all about. You didn’t earn it, you acknowledge it’s existence, and if you really care about humanity, you do what you can, when you can, to level the playing field. It starts with not denying that its happening in the first place. On this very board, someone posted a thread about a Cheerios commercial highlighting a multiracial family. The comments on the you tube channel were so bad that General Mills had to disable them. Here, I saw much of the same bigotry. Just wrapped up in bigger, prettier words. Thing is, I know that hostility and anger does not change minds. I just get so tired of the denial and the ignorance. I am an upper middle class middle aged white woman. I have a good job, my Indian husband has a great job, and we never have to worry about how we are going to pay the bills. I know that I do not fully understand what my loved ones and friends experience but the day that I adopted my Indian son, and in the years since as love grew and we came to see each other as mother and son, with all of the helpless angst that comes from loving your child far more than you could ever love yourself, it became a personal struggle to me. I pray for the day that my son will know his success (and failure) is tied to nothing more than his effort and ability. ---
**Author:** ![Tracijo67](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@Tracijo67](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tracijo67)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2013, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-white-culture/660347/102 "2013-06-08T15:48:02Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > The seminar and the purported description set up and provide background for the discussion. Arguing the details (or existence) of those things is not a part of the discussion regarding the actual question asked. That was my original intent. I didn’t think it would spark a debate about whether white privilege even exists in the first place. I had assumed we may be debating the contextual definition of culture, actually. I had never thought to wonder if I even have a culture, although I am probably making American values interchangeable with culture. I would have agreed that privilege and power were what shaped our culture; not that we (white Americans) don’t have one. In fact I wonder if another tenet of white culture is the steadfast refusal to see ourselves in terms of color; it is how we define other people, not ourselves. And of course how I define my culture as a Midwestern resident of suburbia will differ quie significantly from someone who lives in a cabin in the Ozarks or in a closet space of an apartment in New York City. But I had always assumed we probably do share similar values, or at least intuitively understand them even when we disagree. ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2013, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-white-culture/660347/103 "2013-06-08T16:01:39Z")
> [@](#): > > Is there a “White” culture? Yes, it consists of cruiser bicycles, Ham radios, Buicks and the Episcopalian Church. Bonus question: What’s Episcopalian Soul Food? Answer: Unbuttered, lightly toasted bread. White bread, of course. ---
**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2013, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-white-culture/660347/104 "2013-06-08T17:10:43Z")
> [@Tracijo67](#): > > I would have agreed that privilege and power were what shaped our culture; not that we (white Americans) don’t have one. In fact I wonder if another tenet of white culture is the steadfast refusal to see ourselves in terms of color; it is how we define other people, not ourselves. Something I’ve noticed when [Stuff White People Like](http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/)\* comes up is that some of my fellow white Americans seem to get pretty offended at the idea that someone is making generalizations about white Americans. “What’s wrong with liking Wes Anderson movies? You don’t have to be white to wear [sweaters](http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/2008/06/12/104-sweaters/)! Lots of people all over the world drink [coffee](http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.wordpress.com/2008/01/18/1-coffee/)! Hey, I’m a white person and I don’t read the [Sunday New York Times](http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/2008/01/31/45-the-sunday-new-york-times/)!” Talking about a culture requires making generalizations though, and I rarely here these kinds of objections to inoffensive generalizations about other cultures such as “The Japanese like sushi” even though sushi is also eaten outside Japan and there must be Japanese people who don’t like sushi. I think between being the majority/dominant group in the US, our cultural emphasis on individualism, and the fact that many Americans haven’t spent much time abroad, a lot of white Americans aren’t used to and don’t like having generalizations made about us. Generalizations about specific subcultures or regions of the country are more acceptable, even if these subcultures/regions are majority white. \*Which, although tongue-in-cheek, is IMHO a pretty accurate look at middle class white American culture. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2013, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-white-culture/660347/105 "2013-06-08T20:24:16Z")
> [@Lamia](#): > > Something I’ve noticed when [Stuff White People Like](http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/)\* comes up is that some of my fellow white Americans seem to get pretty offended at the idea that someone is making generalizations about white Americans. “What’s wrong with liking Wes Anderson movies? You don’t have to be white to wear [sweaters](http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/2008/06/12/104-sweaters/)! Lots of people all over the world drink [coffee](http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.wordpress.com/2008/01/18/1-coffee/)! Hey, I’m a white person and I don’t read the [Sunday New York Times](http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/2008/01/31/45-the-sunday-new-york-times/)!” > > \*Which, although tongue-in-cheek, is IMHO a pretty accurate look at middle class white American culture. I think Stuff White People Like is funny, but it’s clearly parody. If you were to grab 10 random entries, I doubt the average person would “like” more than 5. And some are so generic (Facebook) that it’s impossible to find anyone that doesn’t like them. Or it’s so specific (“Taking A Year Off”) that even 90% of white people are confused. So no, I wouldn’t say it’s very accurate. At all. It’s not really making a larger point and doesn’t make much sense for a discussion like this, is I guess what I’m saying. ---
**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2013, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-white-culture/660347/106 "2013-06-08T20:45:38Z")
> [@monstro](#): > > It’s not enough to just stop discriminating to conclude that the playing field is now even. Because the players are in their present positions not based on what new policies are enacted today, but the old ones that were discarded. Yes, I’m perfectly aware of that. > [@](#): > > Let’s say you have two candidates who are up for promotion. One candidate–a guy–was hired during the bad old days of discrimination–when you could walk right through the front door and be hired as long as you had a penis. You know there’s no chance in hell he’d have gotten the job with his credentials had he applied now. The other candidate is a woman and she was hired after the discriminatory practices were stopped and the hiring process became more selective. The male candidate has been working for the company for 10 years and over that time has demonstrated strong competency. The woman has been been there seven years and has demonstrated the same competency. > > There’s a conundrum here. Promote the male candidate and you perpetuate his unfair advantage. But promote the woman candidate and then have to justify why you would give her an “unfair” advantage over a guy with more seniority. > > You can say that the woman has no right to complain if the guy is promoted over her. Her turn to rise will come in due time. But as long as the people who had the unfair advantage are running the system, and their children inherit their reigns after them, you can’t talk about the playing field being even. You can say it’s “more even”. But you can’t have “even” without significant, deliberate repositioning of the players. This means SOMEONE is going to be unhappy. So what specifically would you do to remedy that? Like you said, it’s a condundrum - and not nearly as easy to fix as you might think, no matter what you do. It’s hard to think of any policy that won’t be unfair to someone. ---
**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2013, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-white-culture/660347/107 "2013-06-08T20:55:39Z")
> [@Lamia](#): > > If a store employee assumes that black people are inherently more suspicious/more likely to be criminals than white people then that is the same thing as assuming that white people are inherently less suspicious/less likely to be criminals than black people. Of course. I don’t understand why you’re saying that though. > [@](#): > > How do you know that? If store employees considers black shoppers to be automatically more suspicious than white shoppers then they may not even _notice_ my suspicious behavior because they’re occupied with keeping an eye on black shoppers elsewhere in the store. Even if they do notice me, that doesn’t necessarily mean I’ll be treated exactly the same way as a black woman in the same situation. Sure, if a store employee bases suspicion ONLY on race - but I doubt many do that. If a white guy walks into a store with a big long coat, glancing around as if he’s being careful not to be seen, has big bulges in his coat when he’s leaving and doesn’t buy anything, he’s probably going to be considered suspicious. Most store security’s primary goal is to stop shoplifting, not persecute blacks. > [@](#): > > This is a clip from a hidden camera TV show and not a rigorous scientific study or anything, but the show _[What Would You Do?](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ge7i60GuNRg)_ found that when they sent a white actor and a black actor to behave like bicycle thieves in a public park, people were a lot more aggressive in confronting the black “thief”, more likely to call the police, and less likely to give him the benefit of the doubt about maybe being a park employee or the rightful owner of the bike. And when the producers sent a pretty white woman to play the role of the bike thief, she had an even easier time of it than the white man and was actually treated like a damsel in distress by a number of passers-by. Yes, of course. That’s white privilege (and female privilege - but that’s another topic). My point wasn’t that white privilege doesn’t exist, but how you fix it. It doesn’t always require taking anything away from whites. If whites are sometimes thieves too (of course they are) it doesn’t hurt them to get proportionate scrutiny, or to lay off blacks. Most blacks don’t think the injustice of being watched in stores too much is that whites aren’t watched too little - watching whites more wouldn’t do much to help blacks, only watching blacks less. ---
**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2013, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-white-culture/660347/108 "2013-06-08T20:58:44Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > That’s not really “white privilege”. All the _young_ white _males_ I know were while shopping watched and on occasion followed around when they were young, white or not. That’s just female privilege though. It’s true that “privilege” is much more complicated than people like to pretend. It often goes both ways - females have some privileges over males, for instance, as your example shows. But that doesn’t make it non-existent. ---
**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2013, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-white-culture/660347/109 "2013-06-08T21:43:21Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > I think Stuff White People Like is funny, but it’s clearly parody. If you were to grab 10 random entries, I doubt the average person would “like” more than 5. That sounds pretty accurate to me, for a humorous list of generalizations. But the reason why my comment about the accuracy of Stuff White People Like was a footnote was because it wasn’t particularly important to my main point, which was that in my experience some white Americans seem to take offense at the very idea that someone is making generalizations about white Americans. But it’s pretty hard to have a conversation about what a culture is like without making some generalizations about that culture. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2013, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-white-culture/660347/110 "2013-06-08T21:47:57Z")
**lance strongarm** , when everyone was told to drop the hijack regarding white privilege and continue it in a different thread, you were not given an exemption to take three last shots. Do not do this again. **[/Moderating]** ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2013, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-white-culture/660347/111 "2013-06-08T21:48:55Z")
> [@Lamia](#): > > But the reason why my comment about the accuracy of Stuff White People Like was a footnote was because it wasn’t particularly important to my main point, which was that in my experience some white Americans seem to take offense at the very idea that someone is making generalizations about white Americans. When the only allowed generalizations are bad ones, it’s offensive and obviously done with a hostile agenda. “White people” have no culture (because we’re all demons or golems or something), but do have privilege even if they eat out of a garbage can? Suuure they do. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2013, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-white-culture/660347/112 "2013-06-08T21:59:15Z")
**Der Trihs** , take it to another thread. From now on, I am only issuing Warnings, not Mod Notes on this matter. [/Moderating] ---
**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2013, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-white-culture/660347/113 "2013-06-09T14:47:50Z")
> [@Lamia](#): > > Something I’ve noticed when [Stuff White People Like](http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/)\* comes up is that some of my fellow white Americans seem to get pretty offended at the idea that someone is making generalizations about white Americans. “What’s wrong with liking Wes Anderson movies? You don’t have to be white to wear [sweaters](http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/2008/06/12/104-sweaters/)! Lots of people all over the world drink [coffee](http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.wordpress.com/2008/01/18/1-coffee/)! Hey, I’m a white person and I don’t read the [Sunday New York Times](http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/2008/01/31/45-the-sunday-new-york-times/)!” > > Talking about a culture requires making generalizations though, and I rarely here these kinds of objections to inoffensive generalizations about other cultures such as “The Japanese like sushi” even though sushi is also eaten outside Japan and there must be Japanese people who don’t like sushi. > > I think between being the majority/dominant group in the US, our cultural emphasis on individualism, and the fact that many Americans haven’t spent much time abroad, a lot of white Americans aren’t used to and don’t like having generalizations made about us. Generalizations about specific subcultures or regions of the country are more acceptable, even if these subcultures/regions are majority white. > > \*Which, although tongue-in-cheek, is IMHO a pretty accurate look at middle class white American culture. “Stuff White People Like” is a parody of the tastes of a particular segment of the American public (which may, or may not, in fact be racially “White”): namely, urban middle class/upper middle class types inclined towards liberalism - i.e., exactly the sort who would read such a blog and find it funny (because they identify with it). Naturally, people are going to take more offense at being parodied than at simple generalizations being offered, however valid the parody may be. In this case, it is only valid for a subset of “White” culture (as pointed out, it is really a parody of middle/upper middle class urban liberal-leaning culture, which may or may not be racially “White”), so there are lots of reasons to object to its accuracy. ---
**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2013, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-white-culture/660347/114 "2013-06-09T18:28:07Z")
> [@Malthus](#): > > Naturally, people are going to take more offense at being parodied than at simple generalizations being offered, however valid the parody may be. In this case, it is only valid for a subset of “White” culture (as pointed out, it is really a parody of middle/upper middle class urban liberal-leaning culture, which may or may not be racially “White”), so there are lots of reasons to object to its accuracy. I’m not talking about people objecting to its accuracy, though. I’m talking about people objecting to the very idea that someone is making generalizations about white people even if they’re as inoffensive as “White people like drinking coffee.” Someone who says, as in my first example, “What’s wrong with liking Wes Anderson movies?” isn’t arguing that lots of white people actually _don’t_ like Wes Anderson movies (although that would be true), they’re basically admitting to liking Wes Anderson movies but objecting to this being described as a “white people” thing. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2013, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-white-culture/660347/115 "2013-06-09T18:30:05Z")
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**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2013, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-white-culture/660347/116 "2013-06-09T19:32:01Z")
> [@Lamia](#): > > I’m not talking about people objecting to its accuracy, though. I’m talking about people objecting to the very idea that someone is making generalizations about white people even if they’re as inoffensive as “White people like drinking coffee.” Someone who says, as in my first example, “What’s wrong with liking Wes Anderson movies?” isn’t arguing that lots of white people actually _don’t_ like Wes Anderson movies (although that would be true), they’re basically admitting to liking Wes Anderson movies but objecting to this being described as a “white people” thing. If someone is objecting in the form of “what’s wrong with X?” it is pretty clear that they are objecting to a generalization they think is implicitly being offered as a _negative_ generalization. Which would fit with the blog “stuff white people like”, which (taking it at its face value, which one should not do 😉 ) is filled with the pretty explicit subtext ‘aren’t these folks really lame and inauthentic?’ Take for example your “Wes Anderson” example. Look at the link you provided. > [@](#): > > Wes Anderson movies have this way of being sort of funny and a little clever, so white people in the audience will laugh like crazy. Also, if they don’t get the joke and other white people start laughing, they’ll all join in. It’s pretty much the case that if one dude with glasses laughs, the entire theater will be in stitches within 15 seconds. Someone objecting to being tagged with this isn’t objecting to the “very idea that someone is making generalizations about white people”, they are objecting to being labelled as a lame, inauthentic, pseudo-intellectual boob. ---
**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2013, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-white-culture/660347/117 "2013-06-09T20:30:05Z")
> [@Malthus](#): > > If someone is objecting in the form of “what’s wrong with X?” it is pretty clear that they are objecting to a generalization they think is implicitly being offered as a _negative_ generalization. That’s what I’m saying though, that some of my fellow white people react as though _any_ generalization about white people must be intended as negative/critical/insulting even when it’s something inoffensive and harmless such as drinking coffee or wearing sweaters. I’m really not interested in debating the accuracy or snarkiness of any particular “Stuff White People Like” entry, I only mentioned it because when the site first became well known I encountered a number of my fellow white people who seemed shocked by the idea that things they liked might be seen as neither “normal”/universal nor individual personal preference but rather a sign that they belonged to a particular culture. But a serious discussion of white American culture requires us to identify certain beliefs and behaviors as characteristic of that culture, and if every attempt to do so turns into a bunch of nitpicking about how lots of people like Facebook or whatever then we’re not going to get anywhere. ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2013, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-white-culture/660347/118 "2013-06-09T20:31:25Z")
Clapping on the one and the three. Only white people do this. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2013, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-white-culture/660347/119 "2013-06-09T21:09:24Z")
How many Asians or Indians have you studied at concerts? 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2013, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-white-culture/660347/120 "2013-06-09T22:06:17Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > How many Asians or Indians have you studied at concerts? 😛 I don’t know about the rest of Asia, but when I was living in Japan I attended a big rock festival (featuring both Japanese acts and Western bands like The Who and Aerosmith), and people didn’t clap along during the songs at all. Aside from two guys near me who were obviously big Who fans and kept shouting out the names of the band members during their set, the crowd was by American standards so reserved that it was almost surreal. This is a pretty minor aspect of white American culture, but I’d say we do accept and even expect a lot more rowdiness at rock concerts than the Japanese do. I couldn’t speak to American concerts with mostly non-white audiences or concerts in countries aside from the US and Japan. Actually, that reminds me of something I saw the first time I ever attended a Broadway show. Sitting right behind me and my companion was a group of English high school students who were doing some sort of summer program in New York. They were all really dressed up, the girls in long gowns and the boys in dark suits and tuxes. They looked like they were going to the prom or something, and from what I overheard of their conversation it seemed like they were a bit disappointed to find that other people in attendance were far more casually dressed. I don’t know to what extent this is a _white_ American thing or just an American thing, but I think we do tend to be casual in our dress compared to people from some other cultures. Even within the US it seems to me that black women tend to dress more formally for church, weddings, etc. than do white women. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-white-culture/660347.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-white-culture/660347.md?page=7)