# Is there an: I absolutely DO NOT stand with Phil Robertson petition? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [December 26, 2013, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-an-i-absolutely-do-not-stand-with-phil-robertson-petition/677212 "2013-12-26T15:01:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2013, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-an-i-absolutely-do-not-stand-with-phil-robertson-petition/677212/21 "2013-12-26T20:36:27Z")
I thought you weren’t standing with him. ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2013, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-an-i-absolutely-do-not-stand-with-phil-robertson-petition/677212/22 "2013-12-26T20:53:03Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Can your employer fire you for having an Obama bumper sticker on your car? How about a pro-life bumper sticker? I have personal knowledge of an employer that took a middle ground: they told the employee he couldn’t park in the company parking lot as long as his car had a particular bumper sticker. ---
**Author:** ![SpoilerVirgin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4491bb/32.png) [@SpoilerVirgin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpoilerVirgin)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2013, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-an-i-absolutely-do-not-stand-with-phil-robertson-petition/677212/23 "2013-12-26T20:58:45Z")
[This petition](http://act.faithfulamerica.org/sign/duckdynasty/) is explicity Christian, and therefore may not be exactly what you are looking for, but it is taking the side of A&E in this debate. > [@](#): > > _There’s nothing Christian about racism or anti-gay bigotry. Stand strong, ignore the religious right, and keep Phil Robertson off Duck Dynasty._ ---
**Author:** ![SiXSwordS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/49beb7/32.png) [@SiXSwordS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SiXSwordS)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2013, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-an-i-absolutely-do-not-stand-with-phil-robertson-petition/677212/24 "2013-12-26T21:34:10Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > I thought you weren’t standing with him. I’ll hunt Black Whooping Swans with him using Sarin, pressure-cooker-bombs and the remains of 9/11 victims! Fuck, I’ll comb out his beard while listening to a (grossly uninformed) bible talk. But what he says is ignorant, vapid nonsense. And I would like it known that while some “Stand With Stüüpitt,” others do not. Is that clear enough!? :mad: ---
**Author:** ![SiXSwordS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/49beb7/32.png) [@SiXSwordS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SiXSwordS)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2013, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-an-i-absolutely-do-not-stand-with-phil-robertson-petition/677212/25 "2013-12-26T21:43:58Z")
> [@SpoilerVirgin](#): > > [This petition](http://act.faithfulamerica.org/sign/duckdynasty/) is explicity Christian, and therefore may not be exactly what you are looking for, but it is taking the side of A&E in this debate. Signed and signed! ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2013, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-an-i-absolutely-do-not-stand-with-phil-robertson-petition/677212/26 "2013-12-26T22:24:08Z")
> [@SiXSwordS](#): > > I was hoping for a GA to my GQ… Can I open another thread with the same title, but with less blathering in the OP? You’re as likely to get an answer to your specific question here as in GQ, and a new thread is very likely to be sidetracked anyway unless it is heavily moderated. I don’t see an advantage in opening a new thread. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2013, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-an-i-absolutely-do-not-stand-with-phil-robertson-petition/677212/27 "2013-12-27T01:31:04Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > You’re as likely to get an answer to your specific question here as in GQ, and a new thread is very likely to be sidetracked anyway unless it is heavily moderated. I don’t see an advantage in opening a new thread. (Anyway, OP seems to have gotten what he wants. See Posts #23 and #25 above.) On the subject of Free Speech vs. Free Speech, the ACLU has a slogan they are fond of reciting: When Free Speech is the problem, the solution is More Free Speech. ---
**Author:** ![Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/46a35a/32.png) [@Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_T-Bonham.net)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2013, 7:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-an-i-absolutely-do-not-stand-with-phil-robertson-petition/677212/28 "2013-12-27T07:46:44Z")
> [@SiXSwordS](#): > > Fuck, I’ll comb out his beard while listening to a (grossly uninformed) bible talk. Whil you do that, do some Bible=quoting of your own: 1 Corinthians 11:14 - _Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him?_ ---
**Author:** ![SiXSwordS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/49beb7/32.png) [@SiXSwordS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SiXSwordS)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2013, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-an-i-absolutely-do-not-stand-with-phil-robertson-petition/677212/29 "2013-12-27T14:55:49Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > …a new thread is very likely to be sidetracked anyway unless it is heavily moderated. I don’t see an advantage in opening a new thread. Upon reflection, I think you are right. I did find one petition, as **Senegoid** pointed out. It wasn’t exactly what I was hoping for, but I guess I’ll have to take what I can get. > [@t-bonham@scc.net](#): > > [D]o some Bible=quoting of your own: 1 Corinthians 11:14 - _Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him?_ How about a paraphrase? Matthew 7:3 3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is [up] thy brother’s [ass], but considerest not the beam that is [up] thine own? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2013, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-an-i-absolutely-do-not-stand-with-phil-robertson-petition/677212/30 "2013-12-27T15:04:26Z")
> [@SiXSwordS](#): > > I’ll hunt Black Whooping Swans with him using Sarin, pressure-cooker-bombs and the remains of 9/11 victims! > > Fuck, I’ll comb out his beard while listening to a (grossly uninformed) bible talk. > > But what he says is ignorant, vapid nonsense. And I would like it known that while some “Stand With Stüüpitt,” others do not. > > Is that clear enough!? :mad: Yes. But you might want to write your own petition, because most of the people “standing with him” seem to disagree with his position and merely support his right to hold and say it. ---
**Author:** ![SiXSwordS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/49beb7/32.png) [@SiXSwordS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SiXSwordS)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2013, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-an-i-absolutely-do-not-stand-with-phil-robertson-petition/677212/31 "2013-12-27T17:01:43Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > [M]ost of the people “standing with him” seem to disagree with his position and merely support his right to hold and say it. That’s not the way I read it: [LINK](http://istandwithphil.com/). ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2013, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-an-i-absolutely-do-not-stand-with-phil-robertson-petition/677212/32 "2013-12-27T17:23:22Z")
I stand… corrected. 🙂 Since when is there such a thing as a “faith-driven consumer”? ---
**Author:** ![SiXSwordS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/49beb7/32.png) [@SiXSwordS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SiXSwordS)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2013, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-an-i-absolutely-do-not-stand-with-phil-robertson-petition/677212/33 "2013-12-27T17:59:18Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Since when is there such a thing as a “faith-driven consumer”? The Spirit of the Lord hath moved me to buy a quart of milk, a dozen eggs, a box of Gentle Glide Deodorant Tampons, four frozen pizzas (they’re on sale HALLELUJAH!) a box of Mallomars, and $10 cash back so I can swing by the liquor store to grab a 24-pack of Schlitz Lite Ice. Amen. ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2013, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-an-i-absolutely-do-not-stand-with-phil-robertson-petition/677212/34 "2013-12-28T19:25:07Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > I stand… corrected. 🙂 Since when is there such a thing as a “faith-driven consumer”? In addition to the various religiously-motivated boycotts, there is such a thing as [socially responsible investing](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socially_responsible_investing) which can be, but doesn’t have to be, driven by religious beliefs. ---
**Author:** ![SiXSwordS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/49beb7/32.png) [@SiXSwordS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SiXSwordS)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2013, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-an-i-absolutely-do-not-stand-with-phil-robertson-petition/677212/35 "2013-12-28T21:13:01Z")
> [@Derleth](#): > > In addition to the various religiously-motivated boycotts, there is such a thing as [socially responsible investing](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socially_responsible_investing) which can be, but doesn’t have to be, driven by religious beliefs. I’ve viewed your link, and they do NOT offer deodorant tampons. I believe you will go to hell. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-an-i-absolutely-do-not-stand-with-phil-robertson-petition/677212.md?page=1)