# Is there any correlation between white liberals and feeling rejected from society **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [January 9, 2019, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-correlation-between-white-liberals-and-feeling-rejected-from-society/827494 "2019-01-09T23:57:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-correlation-between-white-liberals-and-feeling-rejected-from-society/827494/61 "2019-01-10T17:48:55Z")
> [@Quartz](#): > > You might find [this chart](https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-ae551f58d537b9323497ce5070baec99) about how the right perceive how the left see them (from [this article](https://qr.ae/TUnoqX)) of interest. > > It doesn’t matter if it’s right or wrong; it’s how they see it. As advertisers say, the perception is the reality. Who died and put the advertisers in charge? It matters a lot whether your perception of reality is right or wrong. If your perception of reality is wrong then you will face difficulties in your interactions with reality. You make choices and take actions which you are confident will succeed based on your perception. And those choices and actions will fail if there’s a significant difference between your perceived reality and actual reality. A lot of people perceive the reality that vaccinations are unnecessary and dangerous. So they don’t get their children vaccinated. Then actual reality steps in and gives their children measles. Their perception wasn’t the reality. ---
**Author:** ![JB99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/439d5e/32.png) [@JB99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JB99)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-correlation-between-white-liberals-and-feeling-rejected-from-society/827494/62 "2019-01-10T17:51:44Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > Of course not. _Normal_ people let the public schools indoctrinate their children. > > Liberals will usually get quizzical stares when encountering non-political folks. They won’t argue with them. They just internalize that the liberal rejects human nature and keep it moving. I wouldn’t say liberals are outcasts in society but I would guess they go through life feeling a bit alienated. > > This is probably why they sequester themselves in like-minded communities and institutions. I see no problem with that, but the problem comes in when they try to control the rest of society and wield power through the various institutions they control. > > “Live and let live” is the most bizarre phrase in the English language for most liberals. They cannot imagine allowing anyone anywhere to live differently. They permit different clothing, music (in some cases), and food, but that is about it. Everyone must engage in a stilted and managed social democracy or else there is oppression and inequality. > > Many liberals are also against fun. This is the wowzer Mencken talked about. Uptight progressive types. This sets them apart from society to a degree. Jesus Christ, this is wrong in every way. We absolutely want to “live and let live.” That is why we become so angry when conservatives use their religion to dictate policy. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-correlation-between-white-liberals-and-feeling-rejected-from-society/827494/63 "2019-01-10T18:11:37Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > “Live and let live” is the most bizarre phrase in the English language for most liberals. They cannot imagine allowing anyone anywhere to live differently. Can you offer 10 examples of what you’re talking about? Actually, just five. Okay, just one will do for now. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-correlation-between-white-liberals-and-feeling-rejected-from-society/827494/64 "2019-01-10T18:22:05Z")
> [@senoy](#): > > The extreme right in Spanish politics is generally unionist, so it’s not as though the Spanish equivalent of the KKK is marching with them. Eh, I’d have to think [these guys](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capirote#/media/File:Lagrimas_-_Fusionadas.jpg) are probably pretty conservative 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-correlation-between-white-liberals-and-feeling-rejected-from-society/827494/65 "2019-01-10T18:38:03Z")
I’ve sort of reluctantly been pushed into the ‘liberal’ camp just due to…facts. I think there are a lot of misapprehensions and sandholing by self-proclaimed liberals about reality and especially among the progressives, particularly when it comes to public finanance and how effective government bureaucracy actually works, but at least they are not generally just making up shit from whole cloth as the self-described, Fox-News-hailing conservatives have done, nor are they wholly exclusionary to anyone who doesn’t fit some narrow set of social, political, and religioous beliefs and ideologies, and they aren’t led about on a noose by a succession of flagrantly lying hypocrites from Newt Gingrich to Donald Trump. I find it risible that Barack Obama was derided from the right as some kind of hyper-liberal and Elizabeth Warren for being a ‘socialist’ for pursuing pragmatic public policy simply to reduce conflicts, address economic crises, and protect the public from exploitation by powerful corporate interests. Both of them and many others, would have been firmly in the Eisenhower camp of Republicans on a policy basis sixty years ago, and now the simple notion of curtailing adverse profiteering or negotiating with nascent nuclear powers to reduce proliferation are some kind of radical left-wing conspiracy to undermine the US government in the minds of people who keep repeating patently untrue claims. If there is anyone who feels “rejected by society” it is the staunch conservatives denying everything from advances in medical science related to gene therapies, the insistance that women should not be allowed to make medical decisions about their own bodies, and the wealth of scientific data about topics ranging from evolution and the neuroscience of gender fluidity to global climate change and the inarugably benefits of immigration. These are the people who feel as if any change to society—which has always been in flux, and is indisputably better than it was fifty years ago for nearly everyone at every socioeconomic class—is some kind of menace that should be denied and any advocates of should be persecuted. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-correlation-between-white-liberals-and-feeling-rejected-from-society/827494/66 "2019-01-10T18:41:12Z")
I think that this whole “rejection from society” business is based on a distorted notion of how empathy works. It seems to presume that in order to care whether other people are being punched in the face, you have to have been punched in the face personally and have personal experience in how getting face-punched feels. Now, it is indeed the case that you cannot truly know what it’s like to experience X if you haven’t experienced X. However where the OP fails is that it presumes it’s impossible to care _at all_ about X if you haven’t experienced X. The OP presumes that if you haven’t _personally_ been shot then it logically follows that you _cannot possibly_ think that people getting shot is bad. Actually, now that I think about it, this actually goes beyond misunderstanding empathy: even if I have no sense whatsoever how how it feels to be shot, I still can oppose people being shot on a purely intellectual assessment of their reactions, and I can also oppose people being shot on a cold clinical assessment of the societal outcomes of what happens to societies where people are getting shot. The OP doesn’t account for any of that - it merely defines complete selfish sociopathy as the norm and declares that anybody who differs from that norm is some sort of reject. That position is fundamentally erroneous both because it’s obviously stupid and _also_ because it ignores tons of selfish reasons why a complete selfish sociopath might want to live in a world without race riots. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-correlation-between-white-liberals-and-feeling-rejected-from-society/827494/67 "2019-01-10T18:49:27Z")
It’s always hilarious to hear American conservatives trying to define liberalism. By their reasoning, a nation that allowed abortion, lacked the death penalty and put restrictions on guns would be a big Marxist concentration camp instead of, y’know, Canada. ---
**Author:** ![JB99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/439d5e/32.png) [@JB99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JB99)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-correlation-between-white-liberals-and-feeling-rejected-from-society/827494/68 "2019-01-10T19:11:10Z")
> [@begbert2](#): > > Actually, now that I think about it, this actually goes beyond misunderstanding empathy: even if I have no sense whatsoever how how it feels to be shot, I still can oppose people being shot on a purely intellectual assessment of their reactions, and I can also oppose people being shot on a cold clinical assessment of the societal outcomes of what happens to societies where people are getting shot. This is me. I’ve already discussed why I reject Republicans and Conservatism in general. Having said that, I am not particularly concerned by empathy for the poor and the marginalized. I only vaguely care about the suffering of others. Rather, I am primarily motivated by a utilitarian appreciation of the benefits of social welfare and the redistribution of wealth. It benefits me to live in a place with less gun violence. It benefits me to have a government that doesn’t control my marriage or my wife’s uterus. It benefits me to live in a city without homeless cripples and beggars wandering the streets like the cast of _Les Mis._ It benefits me to have employees who are well-educated, and not distracted by things like hunger, child care, or chronic health problems. And that’s where I fundamentally just don’t understand Conservatism. Even setting aside the moral considerations, from a _purely utilitarian_ perspective even the most selfish Scrooge should be able to comprehend how they benefit - both directly and indirectly - from liberal policies. ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-correlation-between-white-liberals-and-feeling-rejected-from-society/827494/69 "2019-01-10T19:37:59Z")
I am also incredibly selfish and self serving because I want a healthy, well educated, and diverse community where everyone feels accepted and prosperous. That makes my life easier. ---
**Author:** ![Urbanredneck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ea5d25/32.png) [@Urbanredneck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Urbanredneck)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-correlation-between-white-liberals-and-feeling-rejected-from-society/827494/70 "2019-01-10T21:54:57Z")
I find it interesting that I am often the only pickup truck owner when I go to “liberal” events with some of my liberal relatives or friends Micheal Moore even admitted that liberals are great for many things like standing around holding signs. But your conservative redneck brother in law is the person to go to to help you move or to get something fixed. ---
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-correlation-between-white-liberals-and-feeling-rejected-from-society/827494/71 "2019-01-10T22:11:02Z")
> [@Urbanredneck](#): > > I find it interesting that I am often the only pickup truck owner when I go to “liberal” events with some of my liberal relatives or friends > > Micheal Moore even admitted that liberals are great for many things like standing around holding signs. But your conservative redneck brother in law is the person to go to to help you move or to get something fixed. I live in the real world and not stereotype-land, so I don’t share your “experience”. ETA: I would note that your pointless jab is also wildly off-topic, but what _is_ the topic of this thread? ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-correlation-between-white-liberals-and-feeling-rejected-from-society/827494/72 "2019-01-10T22:36:52Z")
> [@Wesley\_Clark](#): > > But among people who benefit from the inequality (hetero white men, especially those from higher socioeconomic statuses, aka a lot of the liberals on this board), what motivates their liberalism? Has it been studied? I think a lot of the time it’s that they’ve already benefited, so to speak. That’s why white liberals tend to skew toward both educated and more wealthy. Based on what I can tell, if you’re white, male, and you have a well paying, secure job and a good education, you’re not as likely to be feeling like you have to scrap vs. “other” groups to get your piece of the pie, and are more likely to be friendly toward programs that help others even if it’s not directly beneficial, or even mildly detrimental toward their own group. But if you go and find a white guy who’s struggling with the employment market and his economic position, that guy is very likely to be a lot less tolerant toward policies that he perceives as enriching others at his expense, or that give others a leg up that he doesn’t get. Or for that matter that set someone else’s kids up ahead of his own. So… almost the opposite of what you postulate. It’s not the rejection from society that forces white men into liberalism, but rather the reaping of the benefits that enables them to be liberal. ---
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-correlation-between-white-liberals-and-feeling-rejected-from-society/827494/73 "2019-01-10T22:41:35Z")
> [@bump](#): > > I think a lot of the time it’s that they’ve already benefited, so to speak. That’s why white liberals tend to skew toward both educated and more wealthy. > > Based on what I can tell, if you’re white, male, and you have a well paying, secure job and a good education, you’re not as likely to be feeling like you have to scrap vs. “other” groups to get your piece of the pie, and are more likely to be friendly toward programs that help others even if it’s not directly beneficial, or even mildly detrimental toward their own group. > > But if you go and find a white guy who’s struggling with the employment market and his economic position, that guy is very likely to be a lot less tolerant toward policies that he perceives as enriching others at his expense, or that give others a leg up that he doesn’t get. Or for that matter that set someone else’s kids up ahead of his own. > > So… almost the opposite of what you postulate. It’s not the rejection from society that forces white men into liberalism, but rather the reaping of the benefits that enables them to be liberal. You are making the rather large oversight of forgetting sociopathy. ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-correlation-between-white-liberals-and-feeling-rejected-from-society/827494/74 "2019-01-10T23:09:55Z")
> [@Urbanredneck](#): > > I find it interesting that I am often the only pickup truck owner when I go to “liberal” events with some of my liberal relatives or friends > > Micheal Moore even admitted that liberals are great for many things like standing around holding signs. But your conservative redneck brother in law is the person to go to to help you move or to get something fixed. Absolutely NOT true in my experience. ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-correlation-between-white-liberals-and-feeling-rejected-from-society/827494/75 "2019-01-10T23:39:06Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > As to the OP, remember that there were plenty of white guys in 1920s Germany who also felt like they were rejected from society (whether they actually were is debatable). Liberals, they weren’t. To people making this comparison, or saying the modern tea party feels persecuted, I don’t feel it is the same thing. Nazis, or the tea party feel persecuted because they want to go back to a day when people like them were firmly in charge. They feel that those they consider to be inferior outsiders are taking over their society. So yeah, the tea party feels victimized. But they feel victimized because non-whites, feminists, foreigners, gays, non-christians, etc. keep growing in number and influence. They want to go back to a day when people with their demographics were privileged. Meanwhile some people who benefit from those same demographics want to tear down the social hierarchy that privileges them. Which again, comes back to my OP. I haven’t read all the replies yet. But again I’m assuming self interest is one factor in why people pick the politics they do. White men are actually slightly under-represented compared to the electorate. The tea party is about 52% white men, the electorate is about 34% white men, solid liberals are about 30% white men. 30% is also the share of the general public, but whites are over represented in politics. Anyway, I agree with others that looking at the insanity and stupidity of the modern conservative movement is also a major motivator to lean leftward. ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-correlation-between-white-liberals-and-feeling-rejected-from-society/827494/76 "2019-01-10T23:43:12Z")
> [@Urbanredneck](#): > > I find it interesting that I am often the only pickup truck owner when I go to “liberal” events with some of my liberal relatives or friends > > Micheal Moore even admitted that liberals are great for many things like standing around holding signs. But your conservative redneck brother in law is the person to go to to help you move or to get something fixed. > **[Trump-Supporting Towns More Likely To Be Filled With Pickup Trucks, Study Claims](https://www.thedrive.com/news/16712/trump-supporting-towns-more-likely-to-be-filled-with-pickup-trucks-study-claims)** > > So you can judge a book by its car...err, cover. > [@](#): > > Researchers at Stanford University recently developed an artificial intelligence algorithm to analyze the disparate data sets and determine an area’s political leanings, publishing their results in the important-sounding Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences in December. The machine was able to to determine that a neighborhood with more sedans than trucks on the street and in driveways had an 88 percent chance of voting Democratic, while areas with more pickup trucks had 82 percent chance to vote Republican. ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-correlation-between-white-liberals-and-feeling-rejected-from-society/827494/77 "2019-01-10T23:52:33Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > @ the OP: I would guess that the vast majority of liberals are liberals because they feel that they are either: > > 1. Oppressed in society, or > 2. Fighting on behalf of those who are oppressed in society. > > But, ironically, though, Trump appealed to many of his Trumpists by making them feel like they, too, fit either 1# or 2#. The double-edged sword started to cut both ways. Yes but as far as point 2, what separates those who are demographically privledged who fight to keep an unequal system vs those who fight to tear it down? I can understand point 1. I can understand why non-christians are more leftist than christians. Non-whites more than whites. Women more than men. LGBT more than heteros. etc. Hetero white men are over-represented among those who want to maintain an unequal social system. As one would expect. 30% of Americans are white men, 52% of the tea party are white men. But why does one person who demographically benefits from inequality support an unequal system while someone else opposes that same unequal system? I understand the arguments that a rising tide lifts all boats. I believe in human capital. Society works best when everyone who has talent is allowed to use that talent. Selfishly, I want women in science because a lot of talented scientists wouldn’t get a chance to contribute in a patriarchal culture. The cure for a disease that I or someone I love may suffer from could come from a female scientist who would be relegated to being a housewife in a different era, or from a muslim scientist who wouldn’t be allowed into the country and had to live in poverty in their home nation under different policies. So from a selfish reason, maybe part of the issue is that some people just realize everyone’s lives get better in an egalitarian society where everyone is allowed to contribute. After all, the Nazis kicking the jews out of Germany is why the US got the atomic bomb first, because all the jewish scientists who were deemed inferior by the nazis ended up working on the project for the allies. ---
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-correlation-between-white-liberals-and-feeling-rejected-from-society/827494/78 "2019-01-10T23:55:04Z")
> [@Wesley\_Clark](#): > > To people making this comparison, or saying the modern tea party feels persecuted, I don’t feel it is the same thing. It comes down to how you define “rejected from society”. I personally define it as “physically exiled - marched to the border and forced to cross it”, so I have a hard time guessing what _you_ mean by it. If you mean to be literally marginalized by society, many liberal white men have never been literally marginalized. If you mean _feeling_ marginalized, then virtually every Trump supporter qualifies, aside from the extremely wealthy ones who instead support him because they’re sociopaths and know Trump and his ilk will allow them free reign. > [@Wesley\_Clark](#): > > Which again, comes back to my OP. I haven’t read all the replies yet. But again I’m assuming self interest is one factor in why people pick the politics they do. Everything anyone ever does is always done entirely based on their own interests. It’s just that some people are interested in being good, kind, generous, or non-nazi people, and thus selfish self interest drives them to act in ways that will allow them to retain a positive image of themselves, by their own definition of positive. If you define “self interest” as “always doing the thing that screws other people over the most”, or whatever, then the number of non-conservatives who hew to it in their decision-making will decrease radically. ---
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-correlation-between-white-liberals-and-feeling-rejected-from-society/827494/79 "2019-01-11T00:04:01Z")
> [@Wesley\_Clark](#): > > Yes but as far as point 2, what separates those who are demographically privledged who fight to keep an unequal system vs those who fight to tear it down? A lot of it comes down to whether they’re capable of empathy or whether they’re a sociopath. But some of it comes down to education and awareness of how the world works. Persons capable of empathy but who mistakenly think that churches can take care of all the poor people can argue that social programs should be cut and churches and neighborhood charity will pick up the slack, while others look outside and note that we already have churches and neighborhoods and yet the poor remain, and deduce that if we want the poor gone we’re gonna have to get organized about it, government-style. (The sociopaths, meanwhile, look out the door and think, “Hmm, slaves/scapegoats/lunch!”) ---
**Author:** ![Littleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ccd318/32.png) [@Littleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Littleman)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-correlation-between-white-liberals-and-feeling-rejected-from-society/827494/80 "2019-01-11T00:08:28Z")
> [@Ashtura](#): > > Well, I’m definitely _not_ a liberal, but I do support a number of programs that benefit the poor. History shows that a bunch of disgruntled poor people generally leads to bad things for the rich. Nobody wants that. I’d rather have a pacified poor person eating SNAP food in subsidized housing watching their flat screen, than selling drugs or breaking into my house. I guess that’s a more selfish way of saying “a rising tide raises all boats”. Right! That’s how revolutions are born. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-correlation-between-white-liberals-and-feeling-rejected-from-society/827494.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-correlation-between-white-liberals-and-feeling-rejected-from-society/827494.md?page=5)