# Is there any difference between these 2 laptops?

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**Tags:** computer-hardware\
**Created:** [July 17, 2024, 8:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-difference-between-these-2-laptops/1004372 "2024-07-17T08:22:56Z")\
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**Author:** ![colinfred](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colinfred/32/21338_2.png) [@colinfred](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/colinfred)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2024, 8:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-difference-between-these-2-laptops/1004372/1 "2024-07-17T08:22:56Z")

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So, it’s Amazon Prime day and I was thinking I might get a laptop. I had interest in this one

[jumper 14 inch laptop, FHD IPS Display, 256GB SSD 12GB LPDDR4 Laptop, Quad-Core Celeron J4105, USB 3.0, 2.4/5G WiFi, Bluetooth 4.0, Keyboard Film UK. : Amazon.co.uk: Computers & Accessories](https://www.amazon.co.uk/jumper-Display-Quad-Core-Bluetooth-Keyboard/dp/B0D17L328B/ref=sr_1_5?crid=QIRAQ67OHOTU&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.6L-Py6Q1kA7PqJe-dEkpYu99SglSsDeRw6okEET3LtPLw1ttGYkMbLjQZp9OAt8QmkPDpgW1w8VoN1enGgKxAsXscKOfGmnJtXPAVvFmAXdn6lI2R0zLWMtFX7g2fOSUwlenNHvyH5KY5o0rgv2ZF6LtlKpsd_eX7IUh-CpT4VHXTU1aDC5bof68aN9i5Uyo.Ni0mTCV4c3gMer0Zmb1OCIaZkbW6qEd3JX2jJaOw3n4&dib_tag=se&keywords=laptop&psr=PDAY&qid=1721204221&s=prime-day&sprefix=laptop%2Cprime-day%2C51&sr=1-5&th=1)

but then I found this one.

[jumper 14 inch laptop,12GB LPDDR4 256GB SSD Laptop,1080P IPS FHD Display, Celeron J4105 up to 2.5GHZ, USB 3.0, 2.4/5G WiFi, Bluetooth 4.0, Keyboard Film UK. : Amazon.co.uk: Computers & Accessories](https://www.amazon.co.uk/jumper-Display-Celeron-Bluetooth-Keyboard/dp/B0D17FSCW6/ref=pd_ci_mcx_pspc_dp_d_2_t_2?pd_rd_w=LtytV&content-id=amzn1.sym.8db49f41-2d78-4c1c-bc3b-fb9e44b9efb4&pf_rd_p=8db49f41-2d78-4c1c-bc3b-fb9e44b9efb4&pf_rd_r=560QCSKXWWETKQJEKA2W&pd_rd_wg=fR9Pu&pd_rd_r=5da07836-814c-4b2d-984a-b14d714ba0f4&pd_rd_i=B0D17FSCW6)

The first one is an Amazon Prime day deal and is apparently 50% off at £249.99, (and would require me to buy Prime), the second one is £249.99 and that’s just its regular price. They seem to be an identical product to me, or is there something different?

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2024, 8:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-difference-between-these-2-laptops/1004372/2 "2024-07-17T08:36:50Z")

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I can’t see your exact page from the UK.

But all things being equal make sure the non-prime one isn’t refurbished or rebuilt or a return.

Amazon does these things.

Ask Rufus he won’t lie. Or open a chat with an actual customer service person.

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**Author:** ![pjd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pjd/32/3009_2.png) [@pjd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pjd)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2024, 11:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-difference-between-these-2-laptops/1004372/3 "2024-07-17T11:22:32Z")

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The only difference i can see is that the one that was £499 is rated 4.5 stars  
and the other is rated 3.4 !!  
They have exactly the same spec and model number.  
I’m sure there’s something illegal in the marketing but i don’t know what.

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2024, 11:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-difference-between-these-2-laptops/1004372/4 "2024-07-17T11:57:06Z")

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They look the same and it looks like a bit of an oopsie that you can see them both at the same time. What I feel sure the seller intended was that the one priced £249.99 would be on sale normally, then would be hidden away today, to be replaced by a different listing for the same item, which had previously been hidden and priced £499.99, but is now an amazing bargain reduction at £299.99 because something something Prime Day.

Clicking through to their store, there are a lot of ‘currently unavailable’ items. Yeah, pretty sure this is just dishonest marketing.

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**Author:** ![Folly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folly/32/3219_2.png) [@Folly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folly)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2024, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-difference-between-these-2-laptops/1004372/5 "2024-07-18T00:09:08Z")

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I actually needed a new laptop for work stuff and took a chance on the lightning deal for jumper 16 inch, FHD 1200p.

Unfortunately my impression right out of the gate is not great. The proprietary connector and charger are very flimsy. I’ve kind of gotten used to power connections being a USB-C style connection

It’s charging now so once I turn it on I’m hoping my opinion improves.

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2024, 9:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-difference-between-these-2-laptops/1004372/6 "2024-07-18T09:21:09Z")

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The reviews aren’t great (both of the hardware and the company - apparently they have been badgering/bribing customers to leave positive reviews)

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**Post date:** [July 18, 2024, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-difference-between-these-2-laptops/1004372/7 "2024-07-18T22:18:11Z")

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Amazon sells stuff itself and also has different suppliers that sell stuff with Amazon taking care of ordering and shipping. Possibly they are from two different companies. And I’ll second the idea perhaps one is refurbished. Normally they tell you that in the description, but… Of course, with Amazon “refurbished” could be anyhting from “it failed to turn on at all” to cosmetic issues or the customer changed their mind and sent it back. Theoretically(!) refurbished means they got it into proper running condition, fixed anything like broken case, etc.

Considering tight profit margins, if it wasn’ a quick and simple process to refurbish, they likely would have thrown it aaway instead. For £249.00 there’s not a lot of profit in an hour or two of diagnosis or any repairs that require serious disassembly…

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**Author:** ![Folly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folly/32/3219_2.png) [@Folly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folly)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2024, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-difference-between-these-2-laptops/1004372/8 "2024-07-18T23:26:14Z")

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> [@Mangetout](#):
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> The reviews aren’t great (both of the hardware and the company - apparently they have been badgering/bribing customers to leave positive reviews)

Well, I’m moderately satisfied. The construction and feel is quite cheap as expected. The screen is rather nice looking. It’s plenty fast for the office suite stuff I need it for.

I was pleasantly surprised to find little or no bloatware. (Just the typical Microsoft variety).

Really, if the power connection was more robust, I’d be quite pleased.

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**Post date:** [July 19, 2024, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-difference-between-these-2-laptops/1004372/9 "2024-07-19T07:09:41Z")

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Both of these offerings appear to be from the same seller on Amazon. I’m fairly sure this is just a clumsy attempt at making a product look like it has a huge price slash when it’s still the same price as it always was.
