# Is There Any Element of the Republican Congress Which Might Check Trump?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-element-of-the-republican-congress-which-might-check-trump/771436>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 11, 2016, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-element-of-the-republican-congress-which-might-check-trump/771436 "2016-11-11T01:16:45Z")\
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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2016, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-element-of-the-republican-congress-which-might-check-trump/771436/21 "2016-11-11T15:45:03Z")

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Correct; anything the House says is grounds for impeachment is grounds for impeachment.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2016, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-element-of-the-republican-congress-which-might-check-trump/771436/22 "2016-11-11T15:50:12Z")

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Slight hijack , if I may…

Paul Ryan went from ‘Tea Party darling’ to ‘RINO’. It seems that this once-far right radical is no ‘too liberal’ to be a ‘real’ Republican. I think I’ve heard that other congressmen and senators who were backed by the Tea Party are not deemed too liberal.

Does anyone have a list?

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**Author:** ![Corry\_El](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecae2f/32.png) [@Corry\_El](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Corry_El)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2016, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-element-of-the-republican-congress-which-might-check-trump/771436/23 "2016-11-11T20:39:39Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> Slight hijack , if I may…
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> Paul Ryan went from ‘Tea Party darling’ to ‘RINO’. It seems that this once-far right radical is no ‘too liberal’ to be a ‘real’ Republican.

Guys like Ryan are not insufficiently conservative for Trumpists in the conventional use of ‘conservative’ in the US in the Buckley/Goldwater/Reagan era. Nor is Trump much of a conservative in those terms.

‘RINO’ has come to mean Republicans who are not populist nationalist enough, mainly on the issues of trade and immigration. In general politics in the developed world seems headed to being divided more along the lines of nationalist v globalist, populist v elite and less about pure left v right.

Meantime though Trump has a mainly conventional conservative GOP Congress to work with, and will be largely forced to name conventional GOP conservatives to several 1,000 political appointee positions in the executive branch: the main reservoir of people with govt experience who aren’t Democrats is ex-Bush admin people. So the Trump admin is likely to be mainly conservative, and that’s good/bad news for people still laser focused on right/left.

It remains to be seen if the populist v conservative clash in the GOP, which would have been a bloody war if Trump had lost, turns into a major clash right away now that he’s won. It’s not gone though.

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**Author:** ![The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/74df32/32.png) [@The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Devil_s_Grandmother)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2016, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-element-of-the-republican-congress-which-might-check-trump/771436/24 "2016-11-11T21:19:01Z")

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> [@Lord\_Feldon](#):
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> Because they know he’s easy to manipulate. They don’t give two fucks about him, but he’s going to be in the position to sign their bills and they know he rates an idea based on how much praise the person saying it has given him.

Yup, I imagine they are requiting the prettiest and most soft-spoken interns they can get their hands on right now, as any legislation Pence, Ryan, and McConnell can agree on is going to be put on Trump’s desk for signature.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2016, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-element-of-the-republican-congress-which-might-check-trump/771436/25 "2016-11-11T22:11:58Z")

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He will get push back on certain issues for sure.

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> McConnell also talked about some of the differences he and Trump had throughout the campaign. He said the Senate will not discuss term limits on member of Congress at all, a position Trump advocated strongly during his “Drain the Swamp” pitch. He also mentioned that the US will not break away from NATO, issuing this warning to Russia in particular: “If you attack any member of NATO you have us to deal with.”

> **[McConnell Differs From Trump on Term Limits, NATO](https://www.nbcnews.com/card/mcconnell-differs-trump-term-limits-nato-n681681)**
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> McConnell Differs From Trump on Term Limits, NATO

McConnell would likely resist gutting trade agreements.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2016, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-element-of-the-republican-congress-which-might-check-trump/771436/26 "2016-11-11T22:18:11Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> He will get push back on certain issues for sure.
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> [McConnell Differs From Trump on Term Limits, NATO](http://www.nbcnews.com/card/mcconnell-differs-trump-term-limits-nato-n681681)  
> McConnell would likely resist gutting trade agreements.

And what will The Spineless Turtle do if Trump refuses to commit troops to a NATO situation?

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2016, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-element-of-the-republican-congress-which-might-check-trump/771436/27 "2016-11-12T04:07:27Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> Slight hijack , if I may…
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> Paul Ryan went from ‘Tea Party darling’ to ‘RINO’. It seems that this once-far right radical is no ‘too liberal’ to be a ‘real’ Republican. I think I’ve heard that other congressmen and senators who were backed by the Tea Party are not deemed too liberal.
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> Does anyone have a list?

The Speaker represents the entire caucus, most of which is not Tea Party. John Boehner and Paul Ryan both have sterling conservative credentials but are also compromisers, so that riles TEa Partiers.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2016, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-element-of-the-republican-congress-which-might-check-trump/771436/28 "2016-11-12T04:08:48Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> He will get push back on certain issues for sure.
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> [McConnell Differs From Trump on Term Limits, NATO](http://www.nbcnews.com/card/mcconnell-differs-trump-term-limits-nato-n681681)  
> McConnell would likely resist gutting trade agreements.

Trade might be difficult for Republicans. Pro-labor Democrats and Republicans who have heard the protectionist call might be enough of a coalition to give Trump what he wants.

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