# Is there any good reason not to mandate national vaccination?

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**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [March 24, 2014, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-good-reason-not-to-mandate-national-vaccination/684447 "2014-03-24T15:54:44Z")\
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**Post date:** [March 29, 2014, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-good-reason-not-to-mandate-national-vaccination/684447/90 "2014-03-29T00:57:50Z")

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> [@kanicbird](#):
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> … it would still be incumbent for the pro-vax crowd to reacquire the scientific high ground in debate to regain credibility …

This,

> [@kanicbird](#):
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> How does one judge if it is factual? I certainly am not going to run my own double blind study.

would be exactly why trying to reacquire the scientific high ground in debate, a high ground that’s been held in reality for [hundreds of years](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccination#History), would be absolutely pointless.

(Knowing your views of how this _medicine stuff_ actually works,

> [@Examining things yourself vs. taking other's word for it](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/examining-things-yourself-vs-taking-others-word-for-it/586424/9):
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> {…} all healing is from love (and Love is God & God heals), not from the ‘active ingredient’. {…} The problem with medical practice of double blind studies is that love, which is the real healer, is not accounted for {…}

anyone engaging you on this subject is wasting their fucking time. :()

> [@Examining things yourself vs. taking other's word for it](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/examining-things-yourself-vs-taking-others-word-for-it/586424/21):
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> Before debating science and evidence with **kanicbird** , read this:
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> > [@Believers: Why are you so sure of your beliefs?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/believers-why-are-you-so-sure-of-your-beliefs/543965/240):
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> > Mothers chicken soup has been known by many to be a cure for so many illnesses, including the common cold. What the cure is is not in the chemical compounds but the Love flowing from the mother to the child who is acceptive to that Love and trusts his mother. Love is what cures, Love is God and God is Spirit, so Love is Spirit, something science does not want to deal with.
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> > When scientists get their hands on this, they analyze the chemical compounds, and remove the Love from the mother as far as possible by double blind studies, and remove the acceptance of Love and trust from the child. Then no surprise they find nothing. Or if they do find something they insist that the soup has to contain a certain compound to work, or be made a certain way. This insistence of a certain way, repeatable results, is in religion called legalism. Legalism manifests itself in Christianity in insistence of certain prayers, or rituals or the use of a certain version of the Bible. Science is no different, and they take it to a whole other level. Love does not work this way, Love is accepting and not demanding.
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> > What about pharmaceuticals that do work. God has His one church everywhere, people who Love others. They work for pharmaceutical companies, and the Love of God flows through them into the medicine, which the person takes. That person may block healing, which is the flow of Love, from prayer or chicken soup, but is open to healing from a medicine, but as has been proven, even placebos can deliver healing.
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> > It’s not the compounds but the belief that healing must come through compounds that limit people’s ability to heal only through compounds. Once freed from that you can heal from many sources of Love.
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> and walk away.

CMC fnord!

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