# Is there any movie we ALL would agree is good (if not great)?

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**Created:** [January 2, 2026, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-movie-we-all-would-agree-is-good-if-not-great/1026271 "2026-01-02T14:18:31Z")\
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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> I don’t hate SitR but I think _An American In Paris_ is better, overall.

AiP is good, but it doesn’t really have much of a plot - it just meanders from one musical number to another. SitR, OTOH, is tight and funny; in fact, it would work as a classic Hollywood screwball comedy even if it weren’t a musical. That’s what makes it the better film, IMHO.

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> [@Moriarty](#):
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> Who’s going to hate on _Real Genius_?
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> It’s delightful!

I love _Real Genius_, and I think it generally holds up well (I watched it again within the last month or so).

Where I could see some people having issues with it is in objectification of women. While Jordan is an excellent character, and has her own story and agency, the other primary women in the movie are:

- Sherry Nugil, whose role is to have sex with the smartest men in the world
- Susan, the “can you pound a six-inch spike through a board with your penis?” girl
- The beauticians in the pool party scene

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> > [@robby](#):
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> > I still think _ **Apollo 13** _ should be a contender. One person upthread said he didn’t like it because he doesn’t like Tom Hanks, but c’mon, that like saying you don’t like puppies. 😉
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> I like _Apollo 13_, but for astronaut movies it runs a distant second to _The Right Stuff_.

Are astronaut movies even remotely close to being universally loved by female audiences?

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> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#):
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> > [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> > > [@robby](#):
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> > > I still think _ **Apollo 13** _ should be a contender. One person upthread said  
> > > he didn’t like it because he doesn’t like Tom Hanks, but c’mon, that like saying you don’t like puppies. 😉
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> > I like _Apollo 13_, but for astronaut movies it runs a distant second to _The Right Stuff_.
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> Are astronaut movies even remotely close to being universally loved by female audiences?

Most of them are over the moon about 'em.

:skedaddles:

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> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#):
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> Are astronaut movies even remotely close to being universally loved by female audiences?

I can’t speak for all women, obviously, but I loved them both. And I’m another who thinks _The Right Stuff_ was even better than _Apollo 13_.

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> I love _Real Genius_, and I think it generally holds up well (I watched it again within the last month or so).

Another one from that era is **The Breakfast Club** , and I don’t think I’ve met anyone who disliked it.

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> [@Crafter\_Man](#):
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> I don’t think I’ve met anyone who disliked it.

Molly Ringwold has struggled with some of its content.

> **[Molly Ringwald Explains Why She’s ‘Troubled’ by ‘The Breakfast Club’ Three...](https://www.indiewire.com/features/general/molly-ringwald-breakfast-club-troubling-sexual-harassment-john-hughes-1201949866/)**
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> "Bender sexually harasses Claire," Ringwald writes in an op-ed for The New Yorker.

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And the nerd character does everyone else’s assignment.

However, the question is: can everyone in this thread agree on a decent movie, and I think we have some candidates that haven’t washed out yet.

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Is there any movie we ALL would agree is good (if not great)?

No.  
Next question.

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> [@Dung\_Beetle](#):
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> I think we have some candidates that haven’t washed out yet.

I don’t believe I’ve heard a negative vote on _Shawshank Redemption_. It’s biggest flaw is that it’s over played.

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I love it. I think My Cousin Vinny is still in the game also.

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> [@Crafter\_Man](#):
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> Another one from that era is **The Breakfast Club** , and I don’t think I’ve met anyone who disliked it

I disliked it.

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> [@Crafter\_Man](#):
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> Another one from that era is **The Breakfast Club** , and I don’t think I’ve met anyone who disliked it.

It’s seen as sexist by many people today. Molly Ringwald has spoken about how the movie hasn’t aged well, particularly how her character was treated by Judd Nelson’s character.

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> [@Dung\_Beetle](#):
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> And the nerd character does everyone else’s assignment.

And the weird girl gets an unnecessary makeover.

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> [@Moriarty](#):
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> I don’t believe I’ve heard a negative vote on _Shawshank Redemption_.

It was nixed in the OP.

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I searched the thread. Harry Potter hasn’t been mentioned.

The first film is accessible to almost any audience. Harry Potter and the Philosopher’s Stone has a sense of wonderment that is captured in the children. The audience is introduced into a alternate world that is very unique.

Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix is my favorite. It requires some knowledge from the earlier films to fully understand the story. A sharp viewer can figure it out.

They are good films that are enjoyed by children and adults.

I think that’s what the OP asked for? Good films that aren’t considered great.

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_The Rocky Horror Picture Show_

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Cult movies are, by definition, not universally liked.

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But aren’t we talking about The Dope? Surely no Doper can’t agree on Rocky!

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> I think that’s what the OP asked for? Good films that aren’t considered great.

No, Dinsdale asked for a movie that we all agree is good.

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