# Is there any music, film, or TV show we ALL would agree is terrible? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, movies, music\ **Created:** [January 14, 2026, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-music-film-or-tv-show-we-all-would-agree-is-terrible/1026691 "2026-01-14T16:56:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2026, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-music-film-or-tv-show-we-all-would-agree-is-terrible/1026691/101 "2026-01-20T20:17:13Z")
[moving my post to the appropriate Pit thread] ---
**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2026, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-music-film-or-tv-show-we-all-would-agree-is-terrible/1026691/102 "2026-01-20T20:39:20Z")
I’ve seen a few scenes from [Kiss Meets the Phantom of the Park](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiss_Meets_the_Phantom_of_the_Park) on YT. They were so laughably bad that I couldn’t imagine anyone genuinely liking the movie. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2026, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-music-film-or-tv-show-we-all-would-agree-is-terrible/1026691/103 "2026-01-20T20:49:05Z")
> [@Crafter\_Man](#): > > They were so laughably bad that I couldn’t imagine anyone genuinely liking the movie. Any movie you can laugh at isn’t irredeemably terrible, even if it’s just fodder for MST3K & Co. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2026, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-music-film-or-tv-show-we-all-would-agree-is-terrible/1026691/104 "2026-01-20T21:05:16Z")
> [@Crafter\_Man](#): > > As for music, I’m surprised no one has mentioned [The Shaggs](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy_of_the_World) I’m surprised no one has mentioned _The Residents_. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Meatwater](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meatwater/32/20074_2.png) [@Meatwater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meatwater)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2026, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-music-film-or-tv-show-we-all-would-agree-is-terrible/1026691/105 "2026-01-20T21:43:52Z")
> [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](#): > > **Movie 43**. I basically was 12 when I saw it and I found it hilarious… still do sadly. ---
**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2026, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-music-film-or-tv-show-we-all-would-agree-is-terrible/1026691/106 "2026-01-21T00:01:24Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > I’m surprised no one has mentioned _The Residents_. > > 😉 Blasphemy! 😜 ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2026, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-music-film-or-tv-show-we-all-would-agree-is-terrible/1026691/107 "2026-01-21T00:23:28Z")
Early horror/sci-fi films were pretty awful, especially by today’s standards. The Blob, Plan 9 From Outer Space, Invasion of the Body Snatchers, Bride of the Monster: all barely watchable, even when they were new. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2026, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-music-film-or-tv-show-we-all-would-agree-is-terrible/1026691/108 "2026-01-21T01:29:17Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > The Blob, Plan 9 From Outer Space, Invasion of the Body Snatchers, Bride of the Monster: all barely watchable Man! I’m a fan of every single one of those films. They are all highly entertaining, even if just for the schlock value. And _Invasion of the Body Snatchers_? That’s one of the most important and critically acclaimed Science Fiction films in movie history. ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2026, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-music-film-or-tv-show-we-all-would-agree-is-terrible/1026691/109 "2026-01-21T02:16:50Z")
Many of those films work better if you put yourself in the mindset of the 50s - fear (the Bomb) and paranoia (the Commies are plotting to take over.) The final line from _The Thing From Another World_ was the famous “Keep watching the skies,” and of course Kevin McCarthy’s “You’re next! You’re next!” in _Invasion of the Body Snatchers_ - which would have been the final line except the studio insisted the producers tack on a more optimistic ending. And if you still can’t appreciate them, I agree with @Elmer_J.Fudd those films are loaded with shlock value. ---
**Author:** ![TreacherousCretin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treacherouscretin/32/476_2.png) [@TreacherousCretin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TreacherousCretin)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2026, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-music-film-or-tv-show-we-all-would-agree-is-terrible/1026691/110 "2026-01-21T03:42:27Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Wow… This is my first actual firsthand encounter with Ono’s… Hm, I can’t call it “singing”… Count yourself lucky. People my age haven’t been able to unhear it for 58 years. ---
**Author:** ![SmartAleq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smartaleq/32/163_2.png) [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2026, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-music-film-or-tv-show-we-all-would-agree-is-terrible/1026691/111 "2026-01-21T04:04:05Z")
If you like to sing, it’s a banger to wail along with, especially in the car. And even though it came out when I was in high school I find that I can still remember the words to it. Probably helps that I was going through a blistering spell of suicidal ideation when it was popular. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2026, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-music-film-or-tv-show-we-all-would-agree-is-terrible/1026691/112 "2026-01-21T14:00:56Z")
> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#): > > And _Invasion of the Body Snatchers_? I can give you Body Snatchers, but the others were just really. . .bad. Bad directing, bad scripting, bad acting. They’ve gained some fandom because it’s fun to laugh at all of that, but they’re still just bad films. > [@Kent\_Clark](#): > > Many of those films work better if you put yourself in the mindset of the 50s I saw them when they were new and thought they were stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2026, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-music-film-or-tv-show-we-all-would-agree-is-terrible/1026691/113 "2026-01-21T14:27:50Z")
> [@ricepad](#): > > I’ll see your _Afternoon Delight_ and raise you with _Brand New Key_. _Afternoon Delight_ is cheesy af but not horrible. Even Melanie hated _Brand New Key_ (although [the version by the Wurzels has a certain charm](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btEpF334Rtc)). For those of you unfamiliar with the Wurzels, that’s an exaggerated West Country accent (the West Country being quite agricultural and “rustic”). The stereotypical pirate accent is an offshoot of it. > [@Jeff\_Lichtman](#): > > Battlefield Earth I’ve avoided the film but I did read the book and it was sufficiently diverting scifi pulp fiction for me to read the whole thing. Wouldn’t recommend it to anyone, mind you. > [@Jeff\_Lichtman](#): > > Mac and Me Paul Rudd seems to love it. > [@HeyHomie](#): > > Music: atonal jazz, atonal opera, atonal anything. I’ve listened to bits of both, and it sounds like random background noise that those producing it believe is Important. Is there really anyone in the world, outside of those producing it, who enjoys this shit? Some of it, yes. It’s not all the same quality. I mean, it’s not some you listen to to relax, but I’ve enjoyed listening to Berg’s _Wozzeck_ or Schoenberg’s _Pierrot Lunaire_ or Romitelli’s _An Index of Metals_ when in the right mood. And don’t even get me started on Barbara Hannigan’s performance of Ligeti’s _Mysteries of the Macabre_ with Simon Rattle conducting - technical brilliance and comedic timing rapped up in one absolutely mad concert. > [@nearwildheaven](#): > > I’ve heard that over and over again about “Caillou.” How that ever stayed on the air boggles my mind, and I’ve never seen an episode. I have a friend who loathes Caillou with the power of a thousand burning suns. > [@Hakushon](#): > > Unwatchable movie: _Solarbabies_ (1986). I challenge you to sit through all 94 minutes of it. I’ve watched all of it. And I regret it. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2026, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-music-film-or-tv-show-we-all-would-agree-is-terrible/1026691/114 "2026-01-21T18:57:59Z")
If you are interested, here is my discussion thread about “zero star” or “hated” movies. > [@What are you absolute most hated movies of all time? Your "zero stars" movies](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-you-absolute-most-hated-movies-of-all-time-your-zero-stars-movies/985653): > > My interest and viewing of movies the past 8-10 years has increased and I find I give most movie a passable rating, the equivalent of a 1 star or 1/2 star review. But…there are a few so bad they deserve the dreaded “zero star” review. Note: I do not judge movies like The Room as harshly as movies with actual financial backing, ones made by people who know how to make movies. I have two that immediately came to mind for me: Puppet Master Legacy This is the 8th Puppet Master movie and is a cl… See, now I said Vampire Girl vs Frankestein Girl in that thread and I have to think that it is beyond redemption for almost anyone. I will post a deeply offensive screenshot from it in spoiler tag below. [Seriously, it’s just an absolutely awful, racist film.](https://horriblyhooched.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/08.png) I think there are others, like Puppet Master 8: Legacy, but Vampire Girl vs. Frankenstein Girl is to me the worst film I’ve seen all the way through. ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2026, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-music-film-or-tv-show-we-all-would-agree-is-terrible/1026691/115 "2026-01-21T21:58:28Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > I saw them when they were new and thought they were stupid. I think you and I can find common ground in hating [The Queen of Outer Space.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_of_Outer_Space) Critics decided it was a parody, satire, or straight-out comedy, but the studio spent too much money for a joke. ---
**Author:** ![Duckster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duckster/32/1244_2.png) [@Duckster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duckster)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2026, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-music-film-or-tv-show-we-all-would-agree-is-terrible/1026691/116 "2026-01-21T22:09:01Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > John Lennon playing with Chuck Berry and then Yoko Ono [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/pXgXviYAgPg/maxresdefault.jpg "Memphis Tennessee by John Lennon Chuck Berry and The Great Yoko Ono!") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXgXviYAgPg) ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2026, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-music-film-or-tv-show-we-all-would-agree-is-terrible/1026691/117 "2026-01-21T22:14:36Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > I’ve avoided the film [Battlefield Earth] but I did read the book and it was sufficiently diverting scifi pulp fiction for me to read the whole thing. Wouldn’t recommend it to anyone, mind you. Whereas for me, that was the book that taught me the lesson that “Yes, if a book is really that bad, it’s OK to just put it down and never finish it, because sometimes bad books just never get any better”. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2026, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-music-film-or-tv-show-we-all-would-agree-is-terrible/1026691/118 "2026-01-21T22:31:50Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > I’ve avoided the film but I did read the book and it was sufficiently diverting scifi pulp fiction for me to read the whole thing. Wouldn’t recommend it to anyone, mind you. Neil Gaiman\* also praised the book for being fairly well done. Mission Earth, however, is supposed to be embarrassingly bad. It is a 10-part juvenile book series, anti-gay jokes included. Scientology released it and claimed it sold well, but I’ve never read a good review. \*I’m aware of allegations against him, unrelated to this post ---
**Author:** ![xtenkfarpl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/c2a13f/32.png) [@xtenkfarpl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xtenkfarpl)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2026, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-music-film-or-tv-show-we-all-would-agree-is-terrible/1026691/119 "2026-01-22T19:24:18Z")
> [@Crafter\_Man](#): > > As for music, I’m surprised no one has mentioned [The Shaggs](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy_of_the_World). I’m still not sure if they were supposed to be serious, or whether it was an elaborate joke? ---
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> [@DCnDC](#): > > This could just as difficult as the others. “Worst films ever” are typically things like “Plan 9 from Outer Space” or “The Room,” but even those have their fans. Because this is the Dope, I’m going to ask, how are we defining “terrible”? Because I think everyone would agree that _Plan 9_ and _The Room_ were very poorly made. But they were so poorly made that they became unintentionally funny, which is what their fans like about them. So, if terrible simply means poorly made, I think we would all agree that those movies are terrible. But if it means no entertainment value whatsoever, that’s where people are going to disagree. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-music-film-or-tv-show-we-all-would-agree-is-terrible/1026691.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-music-film-or-tv-show-we-all-would-agree-is-terrible/1026691.md?page=7)