# Is there any music, film, or TV show we ALL would agree is terrible?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, movies, music\
**Created:** [January 14, 2026, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-music-film-or-tv-show-we-all-would-agree-is-terrible/1026691 "2026-01-14T16:56:58Z")\
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**Author:** ![Sigene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df788c/32.png) [@Sigene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sigene)\
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I’ve always maintained that anyone who DOESN’T pick Yoko Ono as the worst singer ever has NEVER heard her.

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**Author:** ![TreacherousCretin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treacherouscretin/32/476_2.png) [@TreacherousCretin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TreacherousCretin)\
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My opinion is that anyone who would describe her as a “singer” has never heard her.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
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I don’t know what her singing sounded like. Because whatever that was that she was doing, it wasn’t singing.

The really baffling part, though… did she somehow think that what she was doing sounded good?

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**Post date:** [January 23, 2026, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-music-film-or-tv-show-we-all-would-agree-is-terrible/1026691/124 "2026-01-23T02:31:05Z")

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> [@xtenkfarpl](#):
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> > [@Crafter\_Man](#):
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> > As for music, I’m surprised no one has mentioned [The Shaggs](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy_of_the_World).
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> I’m still not sure if they were supposed to be serious, or whether it was an elaborate joke?

It was more an elaborate fantasy on their father’s part. He supposedly had a palm reading by his mother that said his daughters would form a popular band. He wasn’t interested in music, the girls weren’t interested in music. He was just trying to fulfill the prophecy, and they didn’t want to insult their grandma in front of him. After he died, they didn’t play anymore and sold their instruments.

So, I kind of think of it as a rock album via a weird cult that wasn’t interested in the thing they were actually supposed to be doing. They just kind of felt forced to do it.

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**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2026, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-music-film-or-tv-show-we-all-would-agree-is-terrible/1026691/125 "2026-01-23T15:48:15Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> don’t know what her singing sounded like. Because whatever that was that she was doing, it wasn’t singing.
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> The really baffling part, though… did she somehow think that what she was doing sounded good?

She is no more a singer than a drummer is a theremin player. She’s an artist. That isn’t always the same thing as being an entertainer. A lot of people (even, perhaps, her husband) don’t get that. I suspect the goal was to outrage the establishment. Mission accomplished.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2026, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-music-film-or-tv-show-we-all-would-agree-is-terrible/1026691/126 "2026-01-23T16:24:52Z")

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> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#):
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> I suspect the goal was to outrage the establishment. Mission accomplished.

That’s a poorly-defined goal, though. Enrage the establishment by publicizing uncomfortable truths about them? Worthy goal. Enrage the establishment (and everyone else) by producing sounds that hurt their ears? Not so worthy.

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**Author:** ![TreacherousCretin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treacherouscretin/32/476_2.png) [@TreacherousCretin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TreacherousCretin)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2026, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-music-film-or-tv-show-we-all-would-agree-is-terrible/1026691/127 "2026-01-23T16:46:54Z")

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> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#):
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> She is no more a singer than a drummer is a theremin player. She’s an artist. That isn’t always the same thing as being an entertainer. A lot of people (even, perhaps, her husband) don’t get that. I suspect the goal was to outrage the establishment. Mission accomplished.

My opinion: she’s an artist only in the sense of "anything I do do, or even think, is art simply because I say it is. And I suspect her goal was always to get attention, any way she could. Her immense good fortune was to get into a relationship with an actual artist who was very famous, very wealthy, and very emotionally unstable. Her meal ticket for life.

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**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2026, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-music-film-or-tv-show-we-all-would-agree-is-terrible/1026691/128 "2026-01-23T17:41:20Z")

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Though I like to think she knew exactly what was going on here:

> **[Yoko Ono Joke from ‘The Simpsons’ Becomes Sculpture in Her Exhibition](https://hyperallergic.com/ragnar-kjartansson-makes-good-on-yoko-ono-joke-from-1993-simpsons-episode/)**
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> During a visit to Moe's Tavern in a 1993 episode of The Simpsons, a character based on Yoko Ono famously ordered "a single plum, floating in perfume, served in a man's hat."

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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2026, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-music-film-or-tv-show-we-all-would-agree-is-terrible/1026691/129 "2026-01-24T15:36:58Z")

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> [@TreacherousCretin](#):
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> My opinion: she’s an artist only in the sense of "anything I do do, or even think, is art simply because I say it is.

As I understand it, she was first and foremost a conceptual artist, and her art was what got John interested in her in the first place.

I am far from being able to judge or even say I understand conceptual art in general or hers in particular, but my impression is that, if you accept conceptual art as art, hers was/is the real deal, as worthy of respect as any other conceptual artist.

I happened across this recent article about her art by a fan:

> **[Yoko Ono’s Art Is an Exercise in Hope](https://hyperallergic.com/yoko-onos-art-is-an-exercise-in-hope/)**
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> By inviting viewers to participate in her work, she has consistently framed collective hope amid a cultural backdrop of suffering and pain.

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**Author:** ![TreacherousCretin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treacherouscretin/32/476_2.png) [@TreacherousCretin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TreacherousCretin)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2026, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-music-film-or-tv-show-we-all-would-agree-is-terrible/1026691/130 "2026-01-24T19:58:04Z")

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Your opinion is just as valid as mine and I’m sure a great many, if not most people agree with you. I think some so-called artists like Yoko abuse the idea of Concept Art to ridiculous extremes. But there’s no right or wrong to it.

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**Post date:** [January 25, 2026, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-music-film-or-tv-show-we-all-would-agree-is-terrible/1026691/131 "2026-01-25T01:36:15Z")

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I think that the only “collective hope” that she inspired was the hope that she’d put down the microphone.

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**Post date:** [January 27, 2026, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-music-film-or-tv-show-we-all-would-agree-is-terrible/1026691/132 "2026-01-27T03:29:32Z")

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Well, those films were “influences”; their greatness lies in the fact that a lot of kids saw them and thought “Wow, I want to do that when I grow up, only better!”

Sort of like David Bowie 😛

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**Post date:** [January 27, 2026, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-music-film-or-tv-show-we-all-would-agree-is-terrible/1026691/133 "2026-01-27T03:37:15Z")

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OK, I’m not going to claim that Yoko Ono is in heavy rotation at my house, but I like some of the music she made with John and her vocal talents are certainly unique.

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**Post date:** [January 27, 2026, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-music-film-or-tv-show-we-all-would-agree-is-terrible/1026691/134 "2026-01-27T16:34:22Z")

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> [@Thing.Fish](#):
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> I like some of the music she made with John

Any particular songs?

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**Post date:** [January 28, 2026, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-music-film-or-tv-show-we-all-would-agree-is-terrible/1026691/135 "2026-01-28T05:55:05Z")

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“Kiss Kiss Kiss” is the best song on John Lennon’s worst album.

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**Post date:** [January 30, 2026, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-music-film-or-tv-show-we-all-would-agree-is-terrible/1026691/136 "2026-01-30T13:52:49Z")

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> [@JohnGalt](#):
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They are actually paying people to watch.

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Has anyone mentioned Can’t Stop The Music?

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In the 60 years since she achieved global notoriety I’ve heard exactly two songs where I found her tolerable.  
Beatles: **“Birthday”** where she and Patti Harrison are the two female backup vocalists.  
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with John: I think it was **“Happy Xmas”** where she sings along with John in a soft, genuinely pretty voice. I actually took my headset off and marveled at how nicely she could sing when she wasn’t doing her “Yoko Ono the Outrageous Artist” schtick.

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