# Is there any point in rooting for the Cleveland Browns? **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [April 6, 2018, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-point-in-rooting-for-the-cleveland-browns/811935 "2018-04-06T18:28:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-point-in-rooting-for-the-cleveland-browns/811935/21 "2018-04-07T04:20:36Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > You’ll feel bad abandoning the Browns when they hoist the trophy after winning Super Bowl LXVII. I took the Browns to the Super Bowl just this morning. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-point-in-rooting-for-the-cleveland-browns/811935/22 "2018-04-07T05:16:15Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > We in Michigan cheer for the Lions. Aren’t we in an even longer drought than the Browns? Yes, you are. The Lions last won the NFL Championship in 1957; the closest that the Lions have come since then was the 1991 NFC Championship game, which they lost to the Redskins. The Browns last won the NFL Championship in 1964 (and then lost to the Packers in the 1965 NFL Championship game). They lost in the the AFC Championship game three times in four years ('86, '87, '89), with lots of heartbreak in there. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-point-in-rooting-for-the-cleveland-browns/811935/23 "2018-04-07T13:20:38Z")
There’s no reason the Browns couldn’t go to the Superbowl. They earn enough to be able to easily afford the tickets. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-point-in-rooting-for-the-cleveland-browns/811935/24 "2018-04-07T16:21:58Z")
In baseball I am a Giants fan. I waited all my life until age 50 to see a World Series title. And then I saw 2 more titles in the next 4 years. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-point-in-rooting-for-the-cleveland-browns/811935/25 "2018-04-07T21:57:01Z")
What Jackmanii said. Rooting for the Red Sox was not like rooting for the Browns. The Red Sox were good, just not good enough - like the 2000-2010 Phoenix Suns. The Browns are/were consistently basement dwellers. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-point-in-rooting-for-the-cleveland-browns/811935/26 "2018-04-07T22:27:08Z")
There’s no real point in rooting for any team. If you’re not the owner or a player on the team, how are you affected by a team winning or losing? You support a team to be part of a community. And that community exists regardless of whether the team it is centered around is winning or losing. ---
**Author:** ![Number](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/number/32/242_2.png) [@Number](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Number)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2018, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-point-in-rooting-for-the-cleveland-browns/811935/27 "2018-04-08T02:00:53Z")
Well, Jon Bois says they [live in Hell](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gZndxEvFNk), and he has the charts to back it up. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2018, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-point-in-rooting-for-the-cleveland-browns/811935/28 "2018-04-08T03:39:42Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > Don’t believe me? Chicago Cubs, buddy. Or how about the Chicago Blackhawks, who quite recently was a total joke of an organization and then swiftly became the best team in the league? What about the Seattle Mariners? One year, they had the best record in 2 leagues, tying the all-time record for most wins in a season, but it was not enough to get them to the series. For the fans, they just never fail to disappoint. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2018, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-point-in-rooting-for-the-cleveland-browns/811935/29 "2018-04-08T13:10:30Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > You support a team to be part of a community. And that community exists regardless of whether the team it is centered around is winning or losing. Being a member of that community is a lot more fun when your team is winning. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2018, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-point-in-rooting-for-the-cleveland-browns/811935/30 "2018-04-08T13:16:02Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Being a member of that community is a lot more fun when your team is winning. If you’re only willing to be part of the community when the team is winning, then you’re not really part of the community. You’re just a visitor passing through. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2018, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-point-in-rooting-for-the-cleveland-browns/811935/31 "2018-04-08T17:14:33Z")
In other words, it’s only more fun when you’re winning, if you’re also there when you’re losing. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2018, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-point-in-rooting-for-the-cleveland-browns/811935/32 "2018-04-08T17:56:00Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > What about the Seattle Mariners? One year, they had the best record in 2 leagues, tying the all-time record for most wins in a season, but it was not enough to get them to the series. For the fans, they just never fail to disappoint. Here’s a fun fact: four teams have won more than 110 games in a season, but only one won the World Series. Seattle fans have a lot to be disappointed about, being one of only two fanbases who have never seen a World Series, but I’d say that’s different from the Browns. Seattle’s won a few things, they just never got past the ALCS. They’d have great players. the modern day Browns are just abysmal. They did have a couple of winning seasons, but for the last ten years have been just hideous. That’ll just make it sweeter when they win. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-point-in-rooting-for-the-cleveland-browns/811935/33 "2018-04-09T12:38:46Z")
> [@DCnDC](#): > > Every team has its day in the sun. So does road kill. > [@](#): > > Is there any point in rooting for the Cleveland Browns? [Not any more](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=851115&highlight=Shodan). Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-point-in-rooting-for-the-cleveland-browns/811935/34 "2018-04-09T19:22:47Z")
The Browns will fail to make the playoffs due to not filing the correct paperwork before the deadline. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-point-in-rooting-for-the-cleveland-browns/811935/35 "2018-04-10T04:23:20Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > … Seattle fans have a lot to be disappointed about, being one of only two fanbases who have never seen a World Series, but I’d say that’s different from the Browns… Right, because the Browns won the NFL championship four times and lost the championship game 7 times, including two missed opportunities to play in the NFL/AFL interleague championship. Interestingly, three of their championship losses and one of the victories were games against the Lions, another team that known for making its fans sad. ---
**Author:** ![Lorne\_Armstrong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@Lorne\_Armstrong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lorne_Armstrong)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2018, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-point-in-rooting-for-the-cleveland-browns/811935/36 "2018-04-15T05:11:29Z")
I got teased relentlessly at school because I was a 49er fan back when Steve DeBerg was their starting quarterback. ---
**Author:** ![PoppaSan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/poppasan/32/189_2.png) [@PoppaSan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PoppaSan)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2018, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-point-in-rooting-for-the-cleveland-browns/811935/37 "2018-04-21T17:07:08Z")
> [@Lizard](#): > > … > Why on earth should anyone buy tickets to watch this flaming shitpile of a franchise, or turn on the tube when they’re playing? Aren’t we just being played ourselves if we do? Because if you take your lumps now and get on the season ticket list, you can soak the bandwaggoners when they do turn it around. Pick your 3 games a year then and scalp the rest to make back much more than you ever invested in the losing seasons. Really the reason the Packers have such a long waiting list, the ones that held on during the gory years are cashing in on the secondary market. ---
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2018, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-point-in-rooting-for-the-cleveland-browns/811935/38 "2018-04-21T22:23:10Z")
> [@PoppaSan](#): > > Because if you take your lumps now and get on the season ticket list, you can soak the bandwaggoners when they do turn it around. Pick your 3 games a year then and scalp the rest to make back much more than you ever invested in the losing seasons. Ain’t gonna live long enough. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2018, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-point-in-rooting-for-the-cleveland-browns/811935/39 "2018-04-22T00:33:41Z")
> [@PoppaSan](#): > > Pick your 3 games a year then and scalp the rest to make back much more than you ever invested in the losing seasons. Hah! In St. Louis, there’s the famous story of the Rams fan who tried to get rid of a pair of extra tickets before a game. When there were no takers by the kickoff, he stuck the tickets on the windshield of a parked car and went into the game. When he came out after the game, there was **another** pair of tickets on the windshield next to his.🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2018, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-point-in-rooting-for-the-cleveland-browns/811935/40 "2018-04-22T01:58:45Z")
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