# Is there any truth regarding the innuendo surrounding Trump and Ivanka? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 13, 2016, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-truth-regarding-the-innuendo-surrounding-trump-and-ivanka/774620 "2016-12-13T17:10:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2016, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-truth-regarding-the-innuendo-surrounding-trump-and-ivanka/774620/21 "2016-12-14T01:59:48Z")
> [@pleks](#): > > …Speaking of Presidential progeny, Sasha Obama’s boyfriend appears to take douchebagery to a new level. If you thought guys wearing baseball cap backwards were bad… > > [THE ANTI-TRUMP: Image](https://68.media.tumblr.com/e85cff4a21c7d2c4a5c71b616390b8da/tumblr_ofs02lsQoV1rjupavo4_r2_540.jpg) I’m going to assume that you haven’t interacted with anyone under the age of 25 in the last decade or so. Because he looks like a perfectly normal kid to me. Wearing sunglasses backwards has been common for a while now, in case that’s what you were pointing out. ETA: and there’s nothing douchebaggery about wearing a cap backwards either ---
**Author:** ![pleks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9dc877/32.png) [@pleks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pleks)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2016, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-truth-regarding-the-innuendo-surrounding-trump-and-ivanka/774620/22 "2016-12-14T02:08:16Z")
> [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](#): > > I’m going to assume that you haven’t interacted with anyone under the age of 25 in the last decade or so. Because he looks like a perfectly normal kid to me. Wearing sunglasses backwards has been common for a while now, in case that’s what you were pointing out. > > ETA: and there’s nothing douchebaggery about wearing a cap backwards either Well, Sasha’s boyfriend is a splitting 🆒 image of [this guy](https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/74/1c/49/741c493831662960052b9b483ded219a.jpg), so perhaps we should elevate him from a simple douche to a douche extraordinaire… ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2016, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-truth-regarding-the-innuendo-surrounding-trump-and-ivanka/774620/23 "2016-12-14T02:12:01Z")
> [@beowulff](#): > > It’s _[spitting image](http://www.dictionary.com/browse/spitting--image)_, moron. I spit whenever I think of Trump, too. ---
**Author:** ![Trancephalic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trancephalic/32/380_2.png) [@Trancephalic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trancephalic)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2016, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-truth-regarding-the-innuendo-surrounding-trump-and-ivanka/774620/24 "2016-12-14T02:20:06Z")
I’m pretty sure splitting Trump would result in a flatworm sort of situation ---
**Author:** ![pleks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9dc877/32.png) [@pleks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pleks)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2016, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-truth-regarding-the-innuendo-surrounding-trump-and-ivanka/774620/25 "2016-12-14T02:38:41Z")
Sasha’s the one breaking out the wallet in the picture. You would think that a guy who’s so cool that he wears his sunglasses on the back of the head would at least pay for a couple of burgers. Even the President’s daughter can’t get away from White Privilege… ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2016, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-truth-regarding-the-innuendo-surrounding-trump-and-ivanka/774620/26 "2016-12-14T02:49:52Z")
Maybe if you tried a little harder. The effort- it could be greater. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2016, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-truth-regarding-the-innuendo-surrounding-trump-and-ivanka/774620/27 "2016-12-14T02:53:27Z")
Ahhh, the Trump’s, the modern day Borgia’s. Except the sons are lacking that certain savoir faire that Cesare had. But their ascendency is still young! There may be time for Don Jr. to kill a couple of princes, get into trouble and require a few Papal bulls, er, Presidential pardons. Maybe Ivanka can get pregnant and have Don Sr. declare it his own child or something. The possibilities are limitless. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2016, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-truth-regarding-the-innuendo-surrounding-trump-and-ivanka/774620/28 "2016-12-14T02:53:33Z")
I agree with the idea that he doesn’t think of women as having value other than sexiness. Somehow he’s made the Madonna/whore complex worse, but only having the “whore” part. Plus he’s also doing it for narcissistic purposes. If his progeny is hot, it reflects well on him in his mind. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2016, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-truth-regarding-the-innuendo-surrounding-trump-and-ivanka/774620/29 "2016-12-14T03:00:14Z")
> [@pleks](#): > > He sounds like a man! > [@Miller](#): > > Speak for yourself, maggot. It’s pretty obvious pleks isn’t speaking for himself. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2016, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-truth-regarding-the-innuendo-surrounding-trump-and-ivanka/774620/30 "2016-12-14T03:36:52Z")
> [@pleks](#): > > [http://i.imgur.com/wEl3c.gif?noredirect](http://i.imgur.com/wEl3c.gif?noredirect) Good god you’re dumb. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2016, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-truth-regarding-the-innuendo-surrounding-trump-and-ivanka/774620/31 "2016-12-14T03:43:39Z")
In an original draft of a recent column, Richard Cohen repeated an anecdote a friend had told him about Trump, but the Post cut the reference. > [@](#): > > Before the Washington Post edited it out on Tuesday, Richard Cohen wrote a column claiming that Trump once asked someone he knows a very disturbing question about his then-13-year-old daughter. “Is it wrong to be more sexually attracted to your own daughter than your wife?” Trump allegedly asked, according to the original draft of Cohen’s column. > **[Draft of Washington Post Column Claimed Trump Once Said He Was Sexually...](https://www.complex.com/life/a/mac-mccann/draft-washington-post-column-claimed-trump-said-he-was-sexually-attracted-daughter)** > > A draft of a Washington Post column claimed Donald Trump once said he was "sexually attracted" to his daughter Ivanka when she was 13. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2016, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-truth-regarding-the-innuendo-surrounding-trump-and-ivanka/774620/32 "2016-12-14T04:48:44Z")
> [@pleks](#): > > Ivanka is classy, graceful, well-versed in international affairs, and has a sharp, biting sense of humour–in other words, a splitting image of her father. > > Speaking of Presidential progeny, Sasha Obama’s boyfriend appears to take douchebagery to a new level. If you thought guys wearing baseball cap backwards were bad… > > [THE ANTI-TRUMP: Image](https://68.media.tumblr.com/e85cff4a21c7d2c4a5c71b616390b8da/tumblr_ofs02lsQoV1rjupavo4_r2_540.jpg) > [@pleks](#): > > Holy crap! He sounds like a man! > [@Guinastasia](#): > > Good god you’re dumb. I’m not going to use the T\*\*\*l word even in the Pit, but I assume he’s trying for tongue-in-cheek ironic Fakery. I certainly hope so. I know there are hominids as stupid as he’s pretending to be, but if any of them are capable of typing on a computer keyboard they must be bizarre mutants like from a sci-fi movie. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2016, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-truth-regarding-the-innuendo-surrounding-trump-and-ivanka/774620/33 "2016-12-14T05:30:25Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > I’m not going to use the T\*\*\*l word even in the Pit, but I assume he’s trying for tongue-in-cheek ironic Fakery. What? “Tool” ? The guy’s definitely a tool. Also probably as stupid as you imagine him to be. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2016, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-truth-regarding-the-innuendo-surrounding-trump-and-ivanka/774620/34 "2016-12-14T06:33:19Z")
> [@Darth\_Ayebaw](#): > > The Other First Lady, Proxy Wife. Sure, those titles are mostly with regards to her anticipated possible role as Whitehouse hostess, but then there’s also… inappropriate statements and uh… touches, if you believe some people. > > But she’s happily married with children and seems much more level headed than her dad from what I’ve seen and read. > > So just to be clear, no one’s ACTUALLY serious about it, right? You can decide if he’s serious about [saying](http://www.mediaite.com/online/donald-trump-wont-stop-joking-about-banging-his-daughter/): > [@Captain Hairdo](#): > > “It would be really disappointing — not really — but it would depend on what’s inside the magazine. I don’t think Ivanka would do that, although she does have a very nice figure. I’ve said if Ivanka weren’t my daughter, perhaps I’d be dating her.” or: > [@Il Douche](#): > > “You know who’s one of the great beauties of the world, according to everybody? And I helped create her. Ivanka. My daughter, Ivanka. She’s 6 feet tall, she’s got the best body. She made a lot money as a model—a tremendous amount.” ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2016, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-truth-regarding-the-innuendo-surrounding-trump-and-ivanka/774620/35 "2016-12-14T07:13:26Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > I agree with the idea that he doesn’t think of women as having value other than sexiness. Somehow he’s made the Madonna/whore complex worse, but only having the “whore” part. As usual, you don’t know what you’re talking about. The executive that Trump put in charge of overseeing the building of Trump Tower in the 80s, the building where he lives and works and which has now become a secondary White House, was a woman by the name of Barbara Res, one of three high-level female executives working for Trump at the time who were profiled in a magazine called _Savvy Woman_ in 1989. Here’s an article entitled _[“Donald Trump, a champion of women? His female employees think so.”](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/donald-trump-a-champion-of-women-his-female-employees-think-so/2015/11/23/7eafac80-88da-11e5-9a07-453018f9a0ec_story.html?utm_term=.d1746ae09a0b)_ You might want to read it and educated yourself. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2016, 7:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-truth-regarding-the-innuendo-surrounding-trump-and-ivanka/774620/36 "2016-12-14T07:40:26Z")
So, an article from over 25 years ago is supposed to represent his current views? Would that work if we cited a Clinton or Obama article from that far back? No snark intended. I ask as a legitimate attempt to fight my ignorance. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2016, 7:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-truth-regarding-the-innuendo-surrounding-trump-and-ivanka/774620/37 "2016-12-14T07:58:34Z")
The article is from November of 2015 and includes references to some of Trump’s female executives from 25 years ago. To me this is a positive. It shows he has a long history of entrusting women with demanding and responsible positions in his companies. There appears never to have been a glass ceiling in any of Trump’s companies. He continues this practice even now as evinced by his having promoted a woman (Kellyanne Conway) to serve as his campaign manager. To say that Trump sees nothing of value in women other than their sex appeal is simply not true and it never has been. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2016, 8:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-truth-regarding-the-innuendo-surrounding-trump-and-ivanka/774620/38 "2016-12-14T08:04:18Z")
Fair enough, but even you will admit that, when he’s speaking about women, he has a tendency to refer to them in more…basic (I guess. I don’t want to say sexist or misogynistic) terms. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2016, 8:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-truth-regarding-the-innuendo-surrounding-trump-and-ivanka/774620/39 "2016-12-14T08:21:38Z")
Certainly! Trump is very much prone to macho locker room type behavior around other guys. And when it comes out in the open it makes him look pretty bad. But as another poster related recently, if women knew five percent of what men were thinking they’d never stop slapping us. Trump just says crude things sometimes, often in an apparent attempt at male camaraderie, and it makes him look sexist. But his record is one of promoting women, recognizing their talent and ability, and entrusting them with major undertakings in a field where they are probably the only woman in the meeting room or on the construction site. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2016, 8:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-truth-regarding-the-innuendo-surrounding-trump-and-ivanka/774620/40 "2016-12-14T08:41:21Z")
A degenerate like Trump? I doubt raping his own daughter is the worst thing he’s ever done. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-truth-regarding-the-innuendo-surrounding-trump-and-ivanka/774620.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-truth-regarding-the-innuendo-surrounding-trump-and-ivanka/774620.md?page=3)