# Is There Anybody You Wouldn't Vote For Just Because of What They Are

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [June 11, 2011, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anybody-you-wouldnt-vote-for-just-because-of-what-they-are/585120 "2011-06-11T16:12:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2011, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anybody-you-wouldnt-vote-for-just-because-of-what-they-are/585120/61 "2011-06-13T17:34:57Z")

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Because the lunatic fringe has completely taken over the Republican Party, I can no longer consider voting for any Republican. Because their philosophy is morally and intellectually bankrupt, I could never vote for any libertarian, either the small L or big L variety. Therefore I will likely vote a straight Democratic ticket for the remainder of my days, unless the Democrats nominate a whack job evangelical or racist or some such person, highly unlikely since evangelical racists are the Republican base.

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**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2011, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anybody-you-wouldnt-vote-for-just-because-of-what-they-are/585120/62 "2011-06-13T22:45:26Z")

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> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#):
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> Depends on whether they’re sorry or not.

Okay, again, by your logic, I could vote for a born again Christian if they’re really really truly sorry for it.

My goodness, this is getting silly.

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**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2011, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anybody-you-wouldnt-vote-for-just-because-of-what-they-are/585120/63 "2011-06-14T23:38:40Z")

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> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#):
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> Most of the things you mentioned (ie rights for homosexuals) are political issues.
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> Those are political issues.

What does that mean? **Anything** can be a political issue. In my state, whether or not you can dry your clothes on a line outside is becoming a political issue. Calling something a political issues means nothing more than it exists.

Opposition to universal marriage rights and a woman’s right to her own body are funded primarily by religious groups. I would never vote for anyone I knew to belong to a religious group that opposed these rights.

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**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2011, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anybody-you-wouldnt-vote-for-just-because-of-what-they-are/585120/64 "2011-06-14T23:48:49Z")

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> [@j66](#):
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> What does that mean? **Anything** can be a political issue. In my state, whether or not you can dry your clothes on a line outside is becoming a political issue. Calling something a political issues means nothing more than it exists.
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> Opposition to universal marriage rights and a woman’s right to her own body are funded primarily by religious groups. I would never vote for anyone I knew to belong to a religious group that opposed these rights.

What if he or she personally degrees-look at all the pro-choice and pro-gay marriage Roman Catholic politicians for instance.

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**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2011, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anybody-you-wouldnt-vote-for-just-because-of-what-they-are/585120/65 "2011-06-15T02:16:04Z")

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> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#):
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> What if he or she personally degrees-look at all the pro-choice and pro-gay marriage Roman Catholic politicians for instance.

Most of the Catholic politicians with whom I am familiar to not claim to approve of or even support abortion or homosexuality; they espouse the position that they will not and should not make their religious beliefs law.

I am not concerned with individuals’ religious beliefs; I am concerned about the imposition of those religious beliefs on others.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anybody-you-wouldnt-vote-for-just-because-of-what-they-are/585120/66 "2011-06-16T17:41:50Z")

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I was devastated to learn that Joe Biden is a Flyers fan. If only I had known before I voted for Obama…_sob_

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**Author:** ![Katriona](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/katriona/32/113_2.png) [@Katriona](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Katriona)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anybody-you-wouldnt-vote-for-just-because-of-what-they-are/585120/67 "2011-06-16T18:35:38Z")

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> [@raindog](#):
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> women who wear leggings over their pants,

To be fair, I wouldn’t vote for a man who did that, either. That’s just stupid. Who does that?

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**Author:** ![Ura-Maru](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/51bf81/32.png) [@Ura-Maru](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ura-Maru)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anybody-you-wouldnt-vote-for-just-because-of-what-they-are/585120/68 "2011-06-16T19:22:55Z")

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You wouldn’t vote for Superman?

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He’d probably have to wear a jacket while campaigning. Need someplace to put the flag pin.

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**Author:** ![njtt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ecd19e/32.png) [@njtt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/njtt)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anybody-you-wouldnt-vote-for-just-because-of-what-they-are/585120/69 "2011-06-16T20:23:03Z")

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What other reason would there be to not vote for someone?

Even if the reason is simply that they are not as good (smart, in accord with my opinions, or whatever) as the alternative candidate, this is still a choice based on what they are.

If you are talking specifically about religion (as the mention of Romney suggests), then I would be unhappy voting for a Scientologist or similar cultist, or a Biblical Fundamentalist (or indeed, any sort of religious fundamentalist). However, I might vote for them if the alternative candidates all seemed significantly worse in some important respect. In general, so far as religion goes, as an atheist I would rather vote for another atheist, but that preference could easily be outweighed by other factors. I would, generally, much prefer a good liberal Christian or Moslem (so that is almost any American Democrat, or almost any British politician of any major party) to an atheistic libertarian, for instance.

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anybody-you-wouldnt-vote-for-just-because-of-what-they-are/585120/70 "2011-06-16T20:45:54Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> I was devastated to learn that Joe Biden is a Flyers fan. If only I had known before I voted for Obama…_sob_

What did you expect from someone who represented a suburb of Philadelphia? 😃

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anybody-you-wouldnt-vote-for-just-because-of-what-they-are/585120/71 "2011-06-16T20:49:34Z")

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I consider who someone is their race, sex, sexual orientation, ethnicity, and early religious upbringing. None of these would make me not vote for someone, not being job related. I think I’d have to consider intelligence in this category also, but, since that is job related, I wouldn’t vote for someone whose IQ is about the level of the temperature of Alaska in December. (Sorry. Sarah.)  
What they choose to be - Fundamentalist, radical Islamist, Scientologist, Tea Party lover - is something else again. Either they belief that guff, and so are stupid, or they pretend to believe it for the votes, and so are liars. Good enough reason not to vote for them.

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anybody-you-wouldnt-vote-for-just-because-of-what-they-are/585120/72 "2011-06-16T21:32:57Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> Scientologist. Radical Islam. Republican.

That sounds about right.

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2011, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anybody-you-wouldnt-vote-for-just-because-of-what-they-are/585120/73 "2011-06-17T02:56:31Z")

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I’m getting to the point of writing people off who make a big deal about their religion.

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**Author:** ![pullin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c57346/32.png) [@pullin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pullin)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2011, 11:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anybody-you-wouldnt-vote-for-just-because-of-what-they-are/585120/74 "2011-06-17T11:10:08Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> All I care about is policy positions. Resolve to stand by them and defend them also helps. As to private belief systems - eh - I don’t think you really want to look to deeply into anybody’s head. Nothing good can ever come from that.

Somebody show me where “Revelations” is in the bible. Need to bone up on it, 'cause I’m agreeing with **DIO**.😉

Politicians are merely political whores whose main function upon entering office is to kneel and begin servicing their corporate johns. I could care less about their supposed beliefs or morals as they are simply actors playing a part. I see no meaningful difference between Bush, Obama, Reagan, or Carter. I’m not selecting a person for the job, I’m choosing whether I want policies defined by Halliburton/Exxon/Lockheed, or Trade-Unions/Goldman-Sachs/Time-Warner. I don’t care what Obama (or even Weiner) do in their off-time, any more than I care what Charlie Sheen does offscreen. Honestly, I don’t even listen to their speeches, I just try to find out who’s backing them.

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