# Is there anyone else out there who hates coffee?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** coffee\
**Created:** [February 25, 2020, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anyone-else-out-there-who-hates-coffee/848515 "2020-02-25T21:12:19Z")\
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**Post date:** [February 25, 2020, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anyone-else-out-there-who-hates-coffee/848515/21 "2020-02-25T23:07:22Z")

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I spent the first 28 years of my life thinking I hated coffee. Turned out I was just a coffee snob and didn’t know it. When I went to Hawaii on my honeymoon, I tried Kona coffee because it’s supposed to be the best. It was a completely different animal to the vile stuff I’d tried in the past. Now I drink Kona and love it. I can tolerate some “Kona blends” with enough creamer, but still can’t stand regular coffee. I also discovered that I like Kauai coffee, so I suppose I should say I only like Hawaiian coffee, regardless of which island.

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**Author:** ![dan39](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/258eb7/32.png) [@dan39](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dan39)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2020, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anyone-else-out-there-who-hates-coffee/848515/22 "2020-02-25T23:32:57Z")

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> [@begbert2](#):
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> Woah woah woah woah woah - hold on a bit, calm down, take a breath, maybe reread.

All is forgiven! 🙂

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**Post date:** [February 25, 2020, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anyone-else-out-there-who-hates-coffee/848515/23 "2020-02-25T23:36:01Z")

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Has anyone ever tried Turkish coffee? I feel like I’m missing a lot since a) I don’t drink coffee and b) it’d be hard to get me to like or even try coffee. Turkish coffee seems like something exotic that maybe one day I’d like to try… but where does one get it?

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**Post date:** [February 25, 2020, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anyone-else-out-there-who-hates-coffee/848515/24 "2020-02-25T23:40:21Z")

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> [@dan39](#):
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> Has anyone ever tried Turkish coffee? I feel like I’m missing a lot since a) I don’t drink coffee and b) it’d be hard to get me to like or even try coffee. Turkish coffee seems like something exotic that maybe one day I’d like to try… but where does one get it?

I’m guessing… Turkey?

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**Author:** ![dan39](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/258eb7/32.png) [@dan39](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dan39)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2020, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anyone-else-out-there-who-hates-coffee/848515/25 "2020-02-25T23:43:35Z")

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> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#):
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> I’m guessing… Turkey?

Nah, you can have Irish coffee anywhere but you don’t have to go to Ireland to get it. LOL!

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**Post date:** [February 25, 2020, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anyone-else-out-there-who-hates-coffee/848515/26 "2020-02-25T23:54:47Z")

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I had to force myself to acquire a taste for it, but now I love it. I don’t think very many people start out liking the taste. And judging by all the crap people put in their coffee, I’d say a lot of them end up not far from where they started. I believe if you don’t like it black, you don’t really like it. Not that there’s anything wrong with that! Unless you’re preparing _my_ coffee and polluting it with your heresies!

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**Post date:** [February 26, 2020, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anyone-else-out-there-who-hates-coffee/848515/27 "2020-02-26T13:39:22Z")

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I had one sip and spat it out. I have never had more than that one sip. I love the smell, but I can’t imagine myself ever drinking it.

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**Post date:** [February 26, 2020, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anyone-else-out-there-who-hates-coffee/848515/28 "2020-02-26T15:09:46Z")

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I love the way coffee looks  
I love the way coffee smells  
I love the way coffee makes me feel  
I love the way coffee is so nice and hot.

But coffee tastes awful. That’s why people put so much other stuff into it to drink ir.

Not that I will ever give up drinking it.

ETA: If you could invent a drink that tastes like coffee smells, you’d be a millionaire in a week and a billionaire in a month!

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**Post date:** [February 26, 2020, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anyone-else-out-there-who-hates-coffee/848515/29 "2020-02-26T15:12:40Z")

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> [@dan39](#):
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> I don’t know what it is about my taste buds, but I think I’m in a minority of people in the world who hate coffee.
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> The last cup of coffee I ever had was in 1996, and it came from one of those urns at a reception. It was the worst taste experience in my life. I think I had half of it and then I had to pour the rest out.
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> Don’t get me wrong, I’ve tried coffee flavoured candy and coffee cake, and I like those, but if someone pours me a cup of coffee it will get cold before I can get it to my lips. I’ve also tried lattes, but don’t have the gumption to try anything stronger than that.
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> It’s strange - my entire family drinks coffee except for my mom, who drinks tea. Tea is my preferred hot beverage because there are so many flavours available. Not only that, I don’t put sugar or milk in my tea.
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> Anyone else out there with me?

I should of been a Mormon because I detest the taste of coffee and alcohol and don’t drink either.

(I think the Book of Mormon is silent on Diet Cokes, though. 😉 )

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**Post date:** [February 26, 2020, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anyone-else-out-there-who-hates-coffee/848515/30 "2020-02-26T15:46:59Z")

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Like so many others, I can’t drink coffee just straight-up. It has to at least have liquid flavored creamer in it, and a decent amount (probably 3 tablespoons or so). That I can do at home, but the stuff from coffee shops like Caribou are beyond heavenly 😃 The chocolate, syrups, sugar, etc all drown out the bitterness of the coffee, but the coffee taste is still there to enjoy. Just vastly less strong.

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**Post date:** [February 26, 2020, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anyone-else-out-there-who-hates-coffee/848515/31 "2020-02-26T15:52:35Z")

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I don’t _hate_ it, but I would NEVER drink it if it didn’t have caffeine in it. I don’t understand decaf drinkers at all.

P.S. I was raised Mormon, but haven’t been a believer since I was in my late 20s. I didn’t touch coffee until my 40’s. I drink it semi-regularly now.

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**Post date:** [February 26, 2020, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anyone-else-out-there-who-hates-coffee/848515/32 "2020-02-26T16:08:53Z")

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Love the smell.  
Love coffee ice cream(and especially Jamocha shakes from Arby’s)  
Love coffee candies.  
Hate coffee.

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**Post date:** [February 26, 2020, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anyone-else-out-there-who-hates-coffee/848515/33 "2020-02-26T16:46:05Z")

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I hate coffee completely, smell, and everything about it. When first told the history of civet coffee my response was, “They must use the rest of the animal waste to make regular coffee.”

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**Post date:** [February 26, 2020, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anyone-else-out-there-who-hates-coffee/848515/34 "2020-02-26T16:59:00Z")

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> [@dan39](#):
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> Has anyone ever tried Turkish coffee? I feel like I’m missing a lot since a) I don’t drink coffee and b) it’d be hard to get me to like or even try coffee. Turkish coffee seems like something exotic that maybe one day I’d like to try… but where does one get it?

In the United States try Middle Eastern or Eastern European restaurants, delis, bakeries, etc. IMHO, you haven’t missed anything. Turkish coffee is only a more extreme version of regular coffee which for a coffee-hater like me means it’s only a worse version of something I detest.

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**Post date:** [February 26, 2020, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anyone-else-out-there-who-hates-coffee/848515/35 "2020-02-26T17:35:35Z")

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I first tried it when I was a kid and hated it. Then someone told me to put sugar and creamer in it and enjoyed it.  
Boston style is the only way it is good, I don’t understand how people can drink it any other way.

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**Post date:** [February 26, 2020, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anyone-else-out-there-who-hates-coffee/848515/36 "2020-02-26T17:54:07Z")

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In college I realized I didn’t like the taste, so gave it up for many years, till one late night class where I needed a pick-me-up. I went to Dunkin Donuts for a cup before class. Then I realized that coffee could taste good.

I realized that all the coffee I had previous to that was either school cafeteria coffee or the Foldgers or Maxwell House supermarket coffee that my parents made. I never had a real good cup till then.

Now I am a bit of a coffee snob. I went through the period of grinding my own beans right before brewing to make some of the most delicious coffee I have ever had. But since then I backed off a bit (mostly because I lost that bean supplier and couldn’t find another as good), bu still will seek out good coffee.

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**Post date:** [February 26, 2020, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anyone-else-out-there-who-hates-coffee/848515/37 "2020-02-26T17:59:19Z")

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I love coffee. But the vast majority of coffee brewed and consumed in the United States is objectively terrible. It’s old, stale, poorly brewed in dirty plastic contraptions at the wrong temperatures in the wrong ratios, with awful Robusta beans roasted and ground years before brewing. I don’t have experience elsewhere, but something tells me the state of coffee isn’t so great in the Nespresso and Nescafe regions of the world either.

I don’t blame people who have tried their parents’ version of this beverage and dismissed it as awful. Old people grew up with even worse coffee than we have now, and are used to the terrible flavor. Hell, I’m not that old, but I have some nostalgia for cheap, mediocre diner style coffee. It’s like the American version of wearing a hair shirt. Our collective self punishment in the name of austerity. Anytime someone charges more than a dime for coffee, you’ll hear it like clockwork: “I just want coffee! Black! not a five dollar mochalatte venti soy lowfat gluten free frou frou sissy drink! Real men drink mud from an old sock! And like it! And it costs a nickel at most! Now get off my lawn!”

But it’s really not too difficult or expensive to find or brew your own amazing, wonderful, delicious coffee. It truly is a sublime experience if done right. And doing it right is within everyone’s grasp. But you won’t find “good” coffee at McDonald’s or even Starbucks. But the local coffee shop that roasts their own and has experienced skilled baristas on staff to turn that freshly roasted coffee into an excellent drink? You’ll find it there.

Or you can do some research and experimentation on your own to obtain the same quality product and develop similar skills. That’s what I did. A good place to start is a $40 Chemex, a $100 grinder and beans with a “roasted on” date within the last few weeks (instead of a “best before” date which is often years after roasting). You could go cheaper and get the same quality with a $10 V60 or French press and a $30 hand grinder. I wouldn’t necessarily suggest this to a homeless person, but gourmet coffee at home is surprisingly accessible for even poor people. A grinder is the most expensive tool you’ll need to buy and a good one will last a decade or more.

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_raises hand_. I’ve put it down to childhood “trauma”, but even just the smell makes me retch.

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> I love the smell of coffee. I enjoy chocolate covered coffee beans, especially if I have huge glass of skim milk at the ready too. But I can’t drink coffee at all and have no idea how anyone manages to choke it down, regardless of how much cream and/or sugar it contains. Coffee the drink is a vile, vile abomination.

Theres nothing like sticking your face in a can of coffee and smelling. AH. I used to hate it too, until Dunkin iced coffee.

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Coffee and soccer are two things I can be very confident that I will never like, because I’ve tried them both under the best conditions. In the case of coffee, it was on a tour of a coffee roaster and grinder which supplies a local coffeehouse chain.

The tour itself was fascinating - the owner demonstrated the whole process, from bringing in the green beans, to roasting, to grinding. He explained the history of coffee, the difference between various roasts and grinds, and had us taste East Indian, South American, and East African brews, to understand the way growing conditions affected taste. Lastly, he took us to his brewing room, which featured at least fifty different presses, percolaters, and other coffee- brewing devices - he apparently holds some sort of certification as a Master Brewer, and has the appropriate toolbox - where he brewed us cups of gourmet java.

Still didn’t like it.

Sorry, **Dr. Cube**.

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