# Is there anything a hot woman can say that will make men not want to fuck her

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [January 8, 2014, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anything-a-hot-woman-can-say-that-will-make-men-not-want-to-fuck-her/678226 "2014-01-08T02:19:58Z")\
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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2014, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anything-a-hot-woman-can-say-that-will-make-men-not-want-to-fuck-her/678226/81 "2014-01-09T15:39:28Z")

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“Let me tell you about Amway.”

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
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Would you like to learn about the bible and its plan for you?

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**Author:** ![Themis00](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/13edae/32.png) [@Themis00](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Themis00)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2014, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anything-a-hot-woman-can-say-that-will-make-men-not-want-to-fuck-her/678226/83 "2014-01-09T18:20:06Z")

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There’s some really racist men who won’t touch a hot girl if she has slept with men of other races.

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**Author:** ![Gateway](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/dbc845/32.png) [@Gateway](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gateway)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2014, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anything-a-hot-woman-can-say-that-will-make-men-not-want-to-fuck-her/678226/84 "2014-01-09T18:31:17Z")

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> [@purplehorseshoe](#):
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> Holy cow. I, ah, was under the impression that siblings didn’t generally know this level of detail about each other’s sex lives.

That made me think: if she said that I could fuck her but we would have to pretend that she was rollplaying as my retarded sister and I was raping her and she would be moaning in a retarded voice telling me to stop… If she said she would only have sex like that… well actually maybe I still would…

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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2014, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anything-a-hot-woman-can-say-that-will-make-men-not-want-to-fuck-her/678226/85 "2014-01-09T18:42:48Z")

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> [@Themis00](#):
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> There’s some really racist men who won’t touch a hot girl if she has slept with men of other races.

They only say that because they know they don’t have a chance with said hot girl in the first place. If they were actually given the opportunity, I’m sure they would change their minds real quick.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2014, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anything-a-hot-woman-can-say-that-will-make-men-not-want-to-fuck-her/678226/86 "2014-01-09T19:52:02Z")

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From personal experience:

“I think the Jews were behind 9/11.”

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**Author:** ![xizor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xizor/32/102_2.png) [@xizor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xizor)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2014, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anything-a-hot-woman-can-say-that-will-make-men-not-want-to-fuck-her/678226/87 "2014-01-09T23:14:24Z")

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I think the real flaw in her research was thinking men read profiles at all. They don’t they just look at pictures. But when I was attempting online dating I read a profile that had instructions in the very last line to put a keyword in the subject if you wish to reply. I asked the girl how many responses contained the keyword. She said less than 5%. I also have to admit that my primary filter was by picture alone.

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**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2014, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anything-a-hot-woman-can-say-that-will-make-men-not-want-to-fuck-her/678226/88 "2014-01-10T00:23:45Z")

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> [@xizor](#):
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> I think the real flaw in her research was thinking men read profiles at all. They don’t they just look at pictures. But when I was attempting online dating I read a profile that had instructions in the very last line to put a keyword in the subject if you wish to reply. I asked the girl how many responses contained the keyword. She said less than 5%. I also have to admit that my primary filter was by picture alone.

Some men do read profiles. You obviously do and I do too quite closely. I generally don’t send unsolicited responses to any of them. I have done it before when something seemed like an unusually good match but it is rare. When someone sends me a message, I read their profile closely. I won’t say that the pictures don’t matter because they obviously do but that is the first part of the application process to even get get to the second part of the initial screening with the Shagnasty (it doesn’t mean what you think BTW). I read their profile very closely before I send them any message back, even a simple hello message. There are all kinds of ways to flunk those requirements and that is before I even talk to them on the phone or go out on a date.

I only send messages back to maybe 2% of the ones that write me or maybe a little less. The response rate back from those is about 75% (remember, they wrote me first). I have had a 97% success rate so far (32 out of 33) with getting them to go out on a date after that point (one flaky bitch agreed to it and then cancelled at the last minute so she was gone forever after a stern note from me about basic manners).

Profiles are very important to me and any little hint of incompatibility or true insanity (not jokes like this experiment) will cause me to head for the hills no matter how hot their photos are. The same thing is true in bars or other public places.

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2014, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anything-a-hot-woman-can-say-that-will-make-men-not-want-to-fuck-her/678226/89 "2014-01-10T04:08:50Z")

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> [@Shagnasty](#):
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> Some men do read profiles. You obviously do and I do too quite closely. I generally don’t send unsolicited responses to any of them. I have done it before when something seemed like an unusually good match but it is rare. When someone sends me a message, I read their profile closely. I won’t say that the pictures don’t matter because they obviously do but that is the first part of the application process to even get get to the second part of the initial screening with the Shagnasty (it doesn’t mean what you think BTW). I read their profile very closely before I send them any message back, even a simple hello message. There are all kinds of ways to flunk those requirements and that is before I even talk to them on the phone or go out on a date.
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> I only send messages back to maybe 2% of the ones that write me or maybe a little less. The response rate back from those is about 75% (remember, they wrote me first). I have had a 97% success rate so far (32 out of 33) with getting them to go out on a date after that point (one flaky bitch agreed to it and then cancelled at the last minute so she was gone forever after a stern note from me about basic manners).
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> Profiles are very important to me and any little hint of incompatibility or true insanity (not jokes like this experiment) will cause me to head for the hills no matter how hot their photos are. The same thing is true in bars or other public places.

How do you get women interested in online dating profiles in the first place? My impression was even totally mediocre women were inundated with attention, and pretty much had all the power in the meetup market.

I’ve tried online dating. Even when I would send messages to women who were totally plain looking and talk to them about the interests they discussed in the profile (which I read and sent a message to because I liked their personalities or interests) I got no responses. I get the impression this is fairly common for men in online dating sites. I just assumed only the top 20% of men got anywhere with online dating, for most other men it was pretty much ineffective.

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**Author:** ![Blackberry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecd19e/32.png) [@Blackberry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blackberry)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2014, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anything-a-hot-woman-can-say-that-will-make-men-not-want-to-fuck-her/678226/90 "2014-01-10T04:18:40Z")

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> [@Wesley\_Clark](#):
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> How do you get women interested in online dating profiles in the first place? My impression was even totally mediocre women were inundated with attention, and pretty much had all the power in the meetup market.
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> I’ve tried online dating. Even when I would send messages to women who were totally plain looking and talk to them about the interests they discussed in the profile (which I read and sent a message to because I liked their personalities or interests) I got no responses. I get the impression this is fairly common for men in online dating sites. I just assumed only the top 20% of men got anywhere with online dating, for most other men it was pretty much ineffective.

Maybe it’s something with your profile (unless you’re talking about CL or something where you can respond without having a profile yourself). We can always critique it for you.

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2014, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anything-a-hot-woman-can-say-that-will-make-men-not-want-to-fuck-her/678226/91 "2014-01-10T04:37:55Z")

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> [@Blackberry](#):
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> Maybe it’s something with your profile (unless you’re talking about CL or something where you can respond without having a profile yourself). We can always critique it for you.

What is CL? Craigslist?

I don’t know if I"d feel comfortable putting a profile up here. I haven’t used the online dating profiles in a while. I may be comfortable with using PM to send photos to someone to determine which photo(s) would be best to put in a profile, or sending a profile to people via PM. But I don’t think I’d want to post that info here.

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**Author:** ![Hershele\_Ostropoler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e47c2d/32.png) [@Hershele\_Ostropoler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hershele_Ostropoler)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2014, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anything-a-hot-woman-can-say-that-will-make-men-not-want-to-fuck-her/678226/92 "2014-01-10T06:14:18Z")

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Come to think of it, I saw – and passed by – a personal ad in which she said “I’m looking for someone who won’t abandon me the way my father abandoned my mother.”

But my standards are a bit higher for a relationship than for … less than a relationship. Even the LaRouche thing might not be a dealbreaker if it was just sex, depending on the circumstances (overt racism is a different matter).

> [@Stoid](#):
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> My sister did that once, only worse:

I’ll join the list: that’s more than I would want to know about my sister’s sex life, and presumably more than she would want to know about mine.

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**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2014, 8:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anything-a-hot-woman-can-say-that-will-make-men-not-want-to-fuck-her/678226/93 "2014-01-10T08:18:37Z")

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> [@Hershele\_Ostropoler](#):
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> I’ll join the list: that’s more than I would want to know about my sister’s sex life, and presumably more than she would want to know about mine.

In case this has anything to do with your feelings, I am my sister’s sister… and altogether there were five daughters. We discussed our sex lives pretty freely, just as I do with my friends (both male and female, as it happens in my case.)

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2014, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anything-a-hot-woman-can-say-that-will-make-men-not-want-to-fuck-her/678226/94 "2014-01-10T14:20:45Z")

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> [@lance\_strongarm](#):
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> “I’m your sister.”

Yeah, but… that gold bikini

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**Author:** ![BrokenBriton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@BrokenBriton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrokenBriton)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2014, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anything-a-hot-woman-can-say-that-will-make-men-not-want-to-fuck-her/678226/95 "2014-01-10T17:23:24Z")

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I’m finding as I get older - finally, finally - I am not _completely_ led by my cock.

And it’s quite interesting; it’s a bit like a thrall or a spell is lifting, and you actually see how pretty much your whole life has been shaped it.

You even recognise just how desperately sad but fair quesions like the OP asks are.

It’s kind of pathetic and hopeless and, frankly, it makes me think the whole ‘life’ thing is probably more enjoyable ‘as a woman’.

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**Author:** ![Blackberry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecd19e/32.png) [@Blackberry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blackberry)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2014, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anything-a-hot-woman-can-say-that-will-make-men-not-want-to-fuck-her/678226/96 "2014-01-10T17:40:21Z")

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> [@Wesley\_Clark](#):
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> What is CL? Craigslist?
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> I don’t know if I"d feel comfortable putting a profile up here. I haven’t used the online dating profiles in a while. I may be comfortable with using PM to send photos to someone to determine which photo(s) would be best to put in a profile, or sending a profile to people via PM. But I don’t think I’d want to post that info here.

Yeah, CL is Craigslist.

I don’t blame you for not wanting to link to your profile, I wouldn’t either, but some people have done it in the online dating advice thread, and I think they got some very useful feedback.

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**Author:** ![StusBlues](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@StusBlues](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StusBlues)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2014, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anything-a-hot-woman-can-say-that-will-make-men-not-want-to-fuck-her/678226/97 "2014-01-10T18:41:42Z")

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> [@Stoid](#):
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> My sister did that once, only worse: it was his dick in her throat that abruptly ended that blowjob with a spectacular splash that of dinner and drinks all over his junk. I gotta give it to her boyfriend for coming up with an outstandingly chilled reaction: “Did we spit up?” (He was a doctor, which no doubt accounted for his ability to not leap up screaming and barfing in response, which would have been my reaction.)

I was vomited on once in a 69. She was humiliated; I honestly thought it was cute and laughed my ass off.

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**Post date:** [January 10, 2014, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anything-a-hot-woman-can-say-that-will-make-men-not-want-to-fuck-her/678226/98 "2014-01-10T18:43:43Z")

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> [@Gateway](#):
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> That made me think: if she said that I could fuck her but we would have to pretend that she was rollplaying as my retarded sister and I was raping her and she would be moaning in a retarded voice telling me to stop… If she said she would only have sex like that… well actually maybe I still would…

That’s really sick.

And, yeah, I probably would, too.

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**Post date:** [January 10, 2014, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anything-a-hot-woman-can-say-that-will-make-men-not-want-to-fuck-her/678226/99 "2014-01-10T18:52:05Z")

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“Only if you’re into scat play.”

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**Author:** ![rhubarbarin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/eb9ed0/32.png) [@rhubarbarin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rhubarbarin)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2014, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anything-a-hot-woman-can-say-that-will-make-men-not-want-to-fuck-her/678226/100 "2014-01-10T20:01:50Z")

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It only depends on the man in the equation. Some guys don’t care what you do or say, will even endure abuse, as long as they see a chance for sex. My boyfriend has a fairly liberal sexual past but he has some stories where he got so turned off by an attractive and attracted woman seeming evil, crazy or just annoying that he decided to leave her presence, even though staying probably would probably have meant sex.

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