# Is there anything at all redeeming about an iMac?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anything-at-all-redeeming-about-an-imac/128574>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [September 15, 2002, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anything-at-all-redeeming-about-an-imac/128574 "2002-09-15T20:06:54Z")\
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**Author:** ![Geek\_Mecha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecae2f/32.png) [@Geek\_Mecha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Geek_Mecha)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2002, 7:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anything-at-all-redeeming-about-an-imac/128574/41 "2002-09-21T07:21:03Z")

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Oh yeah, forgot about the GoMac and OS X thing. But I guess it’s a moot point as **Sue** ’s decided to take her iMac back.

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**Author:** ![yosemite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/3ab097/32.png) [@yosemite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yosemite)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2002, 8:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anything-at-all-redeeming-about-an-imac/128574/42 "2002-09-21T08:18:14Z")

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No, she’s decided to keep it (but she’s still feeling inconvenienced…).

Another thing: There is no current Mac version of FrontPage. Which is just as well, since FrontPage SUCKS! (Well, in my opinion, of course.) Dreamweaver is much better. That was another program I discovered when I moved over to Mac—Dreamweaver. I never wanted to go back to FrontPage after using it for a while.

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**Author:** ![Kirkland1244](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dc4da7/32.png) [@Kirkland1244](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kirkland1244)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2002, 10:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anything-at-all-redeeming-about-an-imac/128574/43 "2002-09-21T10:00:29Z")

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DreamWeaver is excellent, but a bit slow in OS X. But at least it produces pretty clean HTML (not BBEdit clean, though), which you can’t say for FrontPage.

Kirk

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**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2002, 11:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anything-at-all-redeeming-about-an-imac/128574/44 "2002-09-21T11:20:10Z")

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Just to make you feel better:

I used to have a Mac at work.  
The I got promoted 😃 , but they needed my desk 😕 , so I decided to work from home. 🆒

As a games addict, I already had a PC.

So now I run Claris Works on a PC. :eek:

Sometime I get amusing error messages:

‘This file is not a Claris Works file, or has been corrupted’ :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Eats\_Crayons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/278dde/32.png) [@Eats\_Crayons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eats_Crayons)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2002, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anything-at-all-redeeming-about-an-imac/128574/45 "2002-09-21T14:41:14Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Drastic \*  
> \*\*Platform wars aside (this thread should be pretty much unreadable by page two, I figure), I’m just a little baffled how anyone can prefer a balled mouse to an optical one. I can live the rest of my life quite happily never having to dig gunk out of a mouse interior again. \*\*

No more unclogging my mouse of all the cat fur – I _LOVE_ my optical mouse!

BTW, I work daily with both Mac and PC. Once you get used to it, it’s really no big deal. On a Mac I use all the Mac shortcut keys, on a PC I instinctively reach for the PC shortcut keys – I don’t even think about which machine I’m using anymore. I prefer the Mac platform for graphic design, but the PC for web authoring (since more web traffic uses IE on a PC).

Though I love OS platform, _I HATE the iMac too!_ Horrible experiences with them! (Never used one of the new ugly ones though.)

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**Author:** ![Eats\_Crayons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/278dde/32.png) [@Eats\_Crayons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eats_Crayons)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2002, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anything-at-all-redeeming-about-an-imac/128574/46 "2002-09-21T14:54:28Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Sue Duhnym \*  
> **I bought a new mouse. It’s helped tremendously but I’m still irritated that I can’t paste (I can copy) with the right button. I’m working on getting used to that with the apple+V. I have OS X so a lot of stuff doesn’t work/hasn’t been updated yet. That’s pissing me off. The fonts on everything seem to be too small which causes some reading problems and I’m having problems highlighting text (for instance, if I want to type in a web address and want to delete everything but the [http://www](http://www). in the address bar.)**

IIRC, OS X has an option that allows you to run it as 9.x (kind of lie it’s pretending to be 9.x) so it can still use all the software that runs on the earlier version of the OS. Some features get disabled as a result though (something to do with priting, I can’t remember.)

I found this a bit confusing though (technician was showing me), so that may require some serious reading.

I’m still hesitant to go up to OS X, I’m not convinced that they’ve wrked out all of the potential bugginess. I’m doing just fine with OS 9.x, for now.

The Mac doesn’t have a lot of the “right-click” functins a PC does, but many of those same functions can be achieved by “click-and-hold” depending on the application you’re using.

Dammit! I’m using the PC right now, so I can’t even fiddle about to describe things more thoroughly.

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**Author:** ![elshatan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/41988e/32.png) [@elshatan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elshatan)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2002, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anything-at-all-redeeming-about-an-imac/128574/47 "2002-09-21T16:55:47Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Kirkland1244 \*  
> \*\*You paused wrong for a ShanterSpeak impersonation.
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> It’s three words, a pause, then you spit out the rest of the sentence.
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> “Spock! Our anti… aliasingdriveisdown!” \*\*

Sorry, I was busy posing…

KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!

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**Author:** ![Kirkland1244](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dc4da7/32.png) [@Kirkland1244](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kirkland1244)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2002, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anything-at-all-redeeming-about-an-imac/128574/48 "2002-09-21T21:36:09Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Charmian \*  
> \*\*IIRC, OS X has an option that allows you to run it as 9.x (kind of lie it’s pretending to be 9.x) so it can still use all the software that runs on the earlier version of the OS. Some features get disabled as a result though (something to do with priting, I can’t remember.) \*\*

This works for most applications, but not system utilities like GoMac. Plus, it is a horrible idea to thrust such a thing on a new user. They’re jumping into OS X. OS 9 is deservedly dead, and she should stick with future-oriented solutions, ie ones for OS X.

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> I found this a bit confusing though (technician was showing me), so that may require some serious reading.

It is a touch confusing, which is why no one would should recommend anything that touches OS 9 to her. If I were her, I’d delete the entire OS 9 installation, but that would take with it some of the OS 9-only fonts.

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> The Mac doesn’t have a lot of the “right-click” functins a PC does, but many of those same functions can be achieved by “click-and-hold” depending on the application you’re using.

Actually, the Mac equivelent to right clicking is holding down the control key and clicking. Some software does this with “click and hold” as well, but control-clicking is universal, particularly in OS X.

Kirk

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**Author:** ![Geek\_Mecha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecae2f/32.png) [@Geek\_Mecha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Geek_Mecha)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2002, 7:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anything-at-all-redeeming-about-an-imac/128574/49 "2002-09-22T07:11:43Z")

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[The iMac in question got traded in for a Vaio](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=135986), and **Sue** ’s a happy camper.

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**Author:** ![Kirkland1244](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dc4da7/32.png) [@Kirkland1244](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kirkland1244)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2002, 11:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anything-at-all-redeeming-about-an-imac/128574/50 "2002-09-22T11:13:47Z")

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Her loss will be an appreciative buyer’s gain.

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**Author:** ![yosemite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/3ab097/32.png) [@yosemite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yosemite)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2002, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anything-at-all-redeeming-about-an-imac/128574/51 "2002-09-22T21:50:30Z")

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> Her loss will be an appreciative buyer’s gain.

Exactly.

It’s worth repeating that there was nothing really “wrong” with the iMac. The OP was desribing problems and complaints that would be typical for someone who was not familiar with the particular operating system, etc. I understand (and can sympathize) with being unwilling at a particular time to learn a whole new operating system. However, in this case, it was not an unreasonable expectation for a new iMac user. OS X is a brand spankin’ new OS—you have to give yourself time to learn it.

So, someone who is willing to put in the effort to appreciate and learn OS X will be all the happier. It’s a great OS. Hey! One of my friends just ordered a G4 iMac from MacMall! So there you go…

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