# Is There Anything Known To Be Real That Science Cannot Explain...At All? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [March 30, 2012, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anything-known-to-be-real-that-science-cannot-explain-at-all/617315 "2012-03-30T20:14:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![RearEchelon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b4bc9f/32.png) [@RearEchelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RearEchelon)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2012, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anything-known-to-be-real-that-science-cannot-explain-at-all/617315/101 "2012-04-02T00:44:51Z")
What about the Voynich Manuscript? It exists, you can go and look at it, but no one can decipher it or even say what it is. Is that what you’re looking for? Or are you talking about phenomena more than physical objects? ---
**Author:** ![benbo1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19adc/32.png) [@benbo1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/benbo1)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2012, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anything-known-to-be-real-that-science-cannot-explain-at-all/617315/102 "2012-04-02T01:15:50Z")
That’s a good one too. This is the spirit of my bringing my original 10 - encouraging NON-BITCHY answers (they know who they are) and more examples. Good work. Altho, prepare for cretins insulting you because it’s ‘so obvious’ that you’re wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2012, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anything-known-to-be-real-that-science-cannot-explain-at-all/617315/103 "2012-04-02T02:18:41Z")
> [@RearEchelon](#): > > What about the Voynich Manuscript? It exists, you can go and look at it, but no one can decipher it or even say what it is. Is that what you’re looking for? Or are you talking about phenomena more than physical objects? It’s interesting and it’s true we can’t currently explain it. However, it fits in with our major theoretical frameworks: It’s made of mass-energy and obeys all the properties those theoretical frameworks predict. We don’t know what it says or why it exists, but that’s true of a number of things in archaeology: Look up ‘undeciphered script’ some time. I suppose my point is, it doesn’t point to any _fundamental_ mystery the way dark energy (see previous posts) does, and it isn’t unique when looked at from a broad archaeological perspective. ---
**Author:** ![iamnotbatman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/858c86/32.png) [@iamnotbatman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamnotbatman)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2012, 8:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anything-known-to-be-real-that-science-cannot-explain-at-all/617315/104 "2012-04-02T08:05:03Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > To say “we get the wrong answer” is quite possibly the biggest understatement in history. It’s not only wrong, it’s wrong by about 120 orders of magnitude. Note: Not a factor of 120, a factor of 10^120. When you get an answer _that_ far wrong, you feel like you actually understand the problem _less_ than if you had no clue at all. 😉 IMO this problem is over-hyped. Don’t get me wrong, it’s problem. But it’s not necessarily anything more than an expected sign that the Standard Model breaks down below the Planck scale. In fact, no one would be concerned about the factor for 10^120 if the observed cosmological constant was zero! For this reason your emphasis is misleading. The “mystery” here is the fine-tuning problem, of how we can a small but nonzero cosmological constant. Of course, we are getting more and more used to fine-tuning mysteries in modern physics, from the hierarchy problem (and don’t forget the little hierarchy problem even remains in SUSY) to the constants of the universe. None of these things remain a mystery if you accept anthropic/landscape arguments, but either way the “dark energy” problem is ultimately very similar to the others in terms of the “problem of fine-tuning”, and in part gets attention only because it is something we’ve actually tried to calculate. Some other things in the Standard Model we don’t even have an idea of how to go about _trying_ to calculate, and those simply don’t get as much attention, even though they probably should be viewed as a greater mystery. ---
**Author:** ![chorpler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chorpler/32/2888_2.png) [@chorpler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chorpler)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2012, 10:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anything-known-to-be-real-that-science-cannot-explain-at-all/617315/105 "2012-04-02T10:14:18Z")
> [@benbo1](#): > > where to begin? > Re: Marianas Trench - the Puerto Rico trench, which may or may not be considered as ‘officially’ part of the Bermuda Triangle, is opposite the Marianas. A rare cite: [http://www.vindaugagallery.com/archives/391](http://www.vindaugagallery.com/archives/391) > another: [Japan's Dragon's Triangle](http://www.unexplainedstuff.com/Places-of-Mystery-and-Power/Japan-s-Dragon-s-Triangle.html) > Of course, whiny nit-pickers love to say ‘you said ‘exactly’’. It’s not ‘exactly’ opposite’. These are the same kind of people who criticize NASA for saying an asteroid will make a near-miss of Earth, when it passes a few thousand miles away. Pay them no mind. Or, if you wanna get on board with them, ignore the fact that in space terms, a few thousand miles is a near miss. These people love to nitpick on details, and refuse to see a big picture. So down to a few feet, I concede the ‘antipodal’ measurement is not down to the foot. It’s a few miles off - and so what? I don’t understand why you’re making this claim – I looked at the antipodes map at [www.antipodemap.com](http://www.antipodemap.com) (which I now see **Cheshire Human** provided a link to) and it doesn’t look to me like the [Mariana Trench](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariana_Trench) is opposite the Bermuda Triangle at all. The area opposite the Mariana Trench seems to be thousands of miles away, way down around and below the tip of the South American bulge. The area opposite the Bermuda Triangle, on the other hand, seems to be off the west coast of Australia. This seems like much, much more than “a few miles off.” (Note: you can see the Mariana Trench in the Antipodes Map, if you switch to Satellite Mode.) ---
**Author:** ![Rachellelogram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rachellelogram/32/8689_2.png) [@Rachellelogram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachellelogram)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2012, 10:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anything-known-to-be-real-that-science-cannot-explain-at-all/617315/106 "2012-04-02T10:19:50Z")
The [ASMR](http://www.asmr-research.org) phenomenon has not yet been formally studied, as far as I can tell. It’d make a good thesis topic, I think. It doesn’t even have a wikipedia page. It’s a subjective experience, but so is synesthesia. And, it seems to be \*more common \*than synesthesia, but I guess it’s not something that people talked about much until recently. There’s a big youtube following for ASMR triggers, and a reddit group for people who experience it, but no hard science yet. We need MRIs, people! ---
**Author:** ![benbo1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19adc/32.png) [@benbo1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/benbo1)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2012, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anything-known-to-be-real-that-science-cannot-explain-at-all/617315/107 "2012-04-02T12:16:53Z")
> [@chorpler](#): > > I don’t understand why you’re making this claim – I looked at the antipodes map at [www.antipodemap.com](http://www.antipodemap.com) (which I now see **Cheshire Human** provided a link to) and it doesn’t look to me like the [Mariana Trench](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariana_Trench) is opposite the Bermuda Triangle at all. The area opposite the Mariana Trench seems to be thousands of miles away, way down around and below the tip of the South American bulge. The area opposite the Bermuda Triangle, on the other hand, seems to be off the west coast of Australia. > > This seems like much, much more than “a few miles off.” > > (Note: you can see the Mariana Trench in the Antipodes Map, if you switch to Satellite Mode.) What I’m deriving from all this tangential criticism is 2 things: 1) the inflexibility of people who take things so literally, while being unable to grasp abstract concepts, and 2) obsessive fixation on one word. I’ll take the 2nd point 1st. Since the original topic was things science can’t explain, it’s implied that we can take liberties and provide some theories that are not completely accepted or understood. The fixation of the obsessive-compulsives who cackle in glee in having ‘caught’ me is ‘directly’. I was thinking not in absolute terms, but in geological and real-life. The Earth is not a perfect sphere. I suppose this is as much a shock that magnetic north is not true north. Absolutists with no imagination have trouble with this concept; to them, anything written in a blog or forum like this not only must be 100% correct, but also conform to \*their \* known way of thinking. The point? Digging an imaginary line thru Earth simply would not come out ‘straight’, as we understand it. There are many reasons for this which I understand but didn’t bring up because they’re way too long and interesting topics all by themselves: underground channels, tectonic plates, suspension of normal rules of fluid mechanics at the Earth’s core, distortion from the core’s magnetic projection, etc. So, not realizing the glee that would be taken in mocking someone rather than addressing the actual point of the concept put forth, the word ‘directly’ was not a good one to put in. Even so, I put in 2 supporting websites in the initial round of criticism. But it was to no avail; the trolls still would rather pick on someone’s choice of words, than to address the concept brought forth & question raised. To put it simply, yes, loosely defined the Marianas is exactly opposite a \*part \*of the Bermuda Triangle; the fact that the Puerto Rico Trench may not be antipodally opposite is irrelevant; as explained, ‘exactly’ has variation due to the forces described above. To add into it, the Bermuda Triangle and the area in which the Marianas Trench is in (called the Dragon’s Triangle) are not defined to exact measurement; they can be said to be opposite each other as well (given the same geological leeway as explained above) . Additionally, there are other parts of the Pacific floor extending from the Marianas still considered part of the trench but not as deep, that are thought to continue in a south-eastern direction, thus being in line with the bottom side of the Bermuda Triangle on the opposite side. Finally, and most comically, all the trolls managed to get it colloquially wrong: while the antipodal maps exhibited may show a direct ‘opposite’ done the straight thru the Earth, who said that’s what ‘directly’ meant in the 1st place? As is easily shown, The Bermuda and Dragons Triangles are both in the NORTHERN hemisphere. When I and the 2 supporting websites talk about ‘opposite’, we meant ‘straight across’ - not, drilling thru the Earth’s core. Who ever said anything about crossing hemispheres, using the maximum possible diameter?!?! This is particularly mystifying, as the trolls gleefully point out how their version of ‘opposite’ the Bermuda Triangle puts them in the Southern Hemisphere! Not to be mean, but really - u claim to catch someone in a mistake, when u say their line thru the Earth ends up in a different hemisphere? As I thought was obvious, and should be by now, I (and the other websites previously mentioned) point out the fact that the Triangles are opposite not in the mathematician, mirror-image 360 degrees-complement sense, but in the more straightforward real-world sense. If that’s too complicated, think of it this way: in the same hemisphere, many miles away, but reasonably close in latitude, and almost 180` apart in longitude. As a final nail in the coffin: the accepted latitude & longitude for Japan itself (right above the Dragon Triangle) is 36` North, 138` East (of Greenwich, England). For Bermuda itself is 32` north, 64` West. Given that the Bermuda & Dragon Triangles are areas close to the 2 countries, almost the same latitude, and longitudes pretty close to the 180` figure connoting exact oppositeness apart, the 2 Triangles can therefore definitively said to be opposite. So, trolls be gone; the ‘opposite’ referred to means you have to stay in at least the same hemisphere!!! Sadly, none of this matters; the whole point of what I brought up, which I’ll reiterate shortly, is skipped over, either out of fear of looking ridiculous on a forum by addressing it, or simply perverse pleasure in mocking someone else rather than addressing it. To address the 1st point, what wasn’t important was spatial mirror-image exactness of being opposite, but the anomalies therein and perhaps not-coincidental placement of the 2 deepest points in each ocean (the Marianas and the Puerto Rico trenches). While unimportant in the existence of these 2 trenches, what is important is similar tales of ships and planes getting lost in these 2 triangles for many years. 1 recent phenomenon is methane gas bubbles bursting from the ocean floor, making in all the way up to the water’s surface(and sometimes above) - these are hard science, confirmed, and observed - no matter what trolls say. Another confuirmed phenomenon is magnetic disturbances of compass, gps, and other navigational equipment; this too, is indisputable and in fact captured on film in the History Channel movie in the link I thoughtfully provided. I suppose this too is troll-bait - ‘obvious camera trick trick bla bla bla’, ‘a stunt for the unwashed masses bla bla bla’, etc. Nope. It’s well documented for many years now, that the magnetic anomalies are there, in specific areas of BOTH triangles (no, no cite - the trolls can do their own googling to _dis_prove, if they like). Given both these proven phenomena, it’s now understandable what could’ve happened to thos planes and ships that got lost over the years; not aliens, not Bigfoot, but good ol terrestrial anomalies: we can take the most famous case, the 5 Navy planes that disappeared 1 afternoon out of Ft. Lauderdale. Given that they were flying low over the water, it’s not hard to imagine the flight getting lost as their instruments lead them astray; from their communication with the tower, they thought they were over the Florida Keys when they were over some small landfalls near Nassau I think; again, it may not be exact, but the \*gestalt \*of what many people have said about this is true). They fly for more hours than they have fuel for. Then either running out of gas or perhaps being hit by 1 or more of the methane bubbles, the planes were brought down. The water in the area they ended up in is pretty deep, the ocean turned stormy around the time they disappeared, and the waters were shark-infested. So, while it’s not proof, it’s a possible explanation of what has happened to planes and ships going in those Triangles over the years. OK, all that’s reasonable. What I was asking, is why? At least about the magnetic anomalies: what science can’;t yet answer, what’s still a mystery today, is what’s so special about those areas that causes those magnetic anomalies? They ain’t near either Pole currently - altho 1 theory has it that due to pole shift (another long story - I’m not gonna defend it - it’ proven, it’s science, and the trolls just gotta swallow it), the locations of the 2 trenches are \*possible \* (being ridiculously careful with my words now, due to being slimed by trolls earlier) locations of the former North & South Poles, and there may be iron & other magnetic deposits in heavier concentrations than otherwhere in the 2 oceans. But, unlike the methane gas bubbles and pole shift itself, this is not proven. SO, to get back on track to the original question; we know there are magnetic anomalies in the Bermuda and Dragon Triangles, probably strong enough in combination with rogue methane bubbles, to bring down planes and ships. The remaining mystery that mainstream science hasn’t yet answered is why the magnetic anomalies there? What’s causing them, and are they permanent or transient, like the coronal mass ejections that cause disturbances in our atmosphere? Are they exotic material seeping up from the Earth’s core, given that these 2 trenches are so deep, and once again the imperfect nature of nature, perhaps bulges or cracks in the Earth’s mantle can magnify the effect? ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2012, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anything-known-to-be-real-that-science-cannot-explain-at-all/617315/108 "2012-04-02T12:22:26Z")
Cool story, bro. ---
**Author:** ![iamnotbatman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/858c86/32.png) [@iamnotbatman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamnotbatman)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2012, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anything-known-to-be-real-that-science-cannot-explain-at-all/617315/109 "2012-04-02T12:23:51Z")
> [@benbo1](#): > > SO, to get back on track to the original question; we know there are magnetic anomalies in the Bermuda I am aware of no scientific evidence that there is any anomaly whatsoever in the earth’s magnetic field near the Bermuda triangle. ---
**Author:** ![benbo1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19adc/32.png) [@benbo1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/benbo1)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2012, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anything-known-to-be-real-that-science-cannot-explain-at-all/617315/110 "2012-04-02T12:29:59Z")
watch the _History Channel s_how, and google it. ---
**Author:** ![iamnotbatman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/858c86/32.png) [@iamnotbatman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamnotbatman)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2012, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anything-known-to-be-real-that-science-cannot-explain-at-all/617315/111 "2012-04-02T12:35:21Z")
I certainly googled before posting, just to make sure. Perhaps you have a link to a journal article or something? ---
**Author:** ![benbo1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19adc/32.png) [@benbo1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/benbo1)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2012, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anything-known-to-be-real-that-science-cannot-explain-at-all/617315/112 "2012-04-02T12:37:24Z")
holyshit, just googling ‘magnetic anomaly bermuda’ brings up a wealth of info, not the least of which a map of magnetic anomalies around the world. Not the only places, but area of interest #1 - SouthEast of Florida, Northwest of Bermuda. Area #2 - southeast of Japan. Sometimes this is too easy. ---
**Author:** ![benbo1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19adc/32.png) [@benbo1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/benbo1)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2012, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anything-known-to-be-real-that-science-cannot-explain-at-all/617315/113 "2012-04-02T12:39:18Z")
I’m feeling charitable, so here’s the anomaly map: [http://www.geographictravels.com/2008/10/magnetic-anomaly-map-of-world.html](http://www.geographictravels.com/2008/10/magnetic-anomaly-map-of-world.html) click to enlarge, & look in the Bermuda & Dragon Triangles. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2012, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anything-known-to-be-real-that-science-cannot-explain-at-all/617315/114 "2012-04-02T12:51:02Z")
> [@benbo1](#): > > Sometimes this is too easy. Especially when you’re not burdened by concepts like scientific rigor or even scientific method… ---
**Author:** ![iamnotbatman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/858c86/32.png) [@iamnotbatman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamnotbatman)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2012, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anything-known-to-be-real-that-science-cannot-explain-at-all/617315/115 "2012-04-02T13:06:25Z")
> [@benbo1](#): > > I’m feeling charitable, so here’s the anomaly map: [http://www.geographictravels.com/2008/10/magnetic-anomaly-map-of-world.html](http://www.geographictravels.com/2008/10/magnetic-anomaly-map-of-world.html) > click to enlarge, & look in the Bermuda & Dragon Triangles. That map shows no exceptional anomaly in the area inside the Bermuda triangle relative to very common fluctuations seen all over the globe. Of course, I have no idea what the colors represent, or the scales of the deviations represented. ETA: it is extraordinary to think that someone looking at that map might zero-in on the Bermuda triangle as somehow being anomalous. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2012, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anything-known-to-be-real-that-science-cannot-explain-at-all/617315/116 "2012-04-02T13:44:14Z")
> [@benbo1](#): > > All that is and was known when the astronauts and NASA brought up these questions. It also wouldn’t explain why the younger rox crumbled before the older, nor why the astronauts saw WHOLE ACRES of glassy surface - by your logic, glassy beads would also be thrown all over, instead of the ‘scorched field’ look the astronauts described. It’s hard, but try googling ‘astronauts glassy surface moon’. > Care to address the pinging [again witnessed by the astronauts and NASA] or is that too much research? Probly just easier to ask if I’m just kidding, huh? I also mentioned volcanic activity, [cite:](http://space.about.com/od/moon/tp/All-About-The-Moon.htm) > [@About.com/Space & Astronomy](#): > > **10. Dark Spots on the Moon were Created as Lava Filled in Craters Left by Asteroids.** > > When the Moon was early in its formation lava flowed beneath the surface. Occasionally asteroids and comets would come crashing into the Moon. The resulting crater would penetrate down to the lava levels. Said lava would then ooze up to the surface and, at least partially, fill in the crater. Because the lava was semi-liquid, it would create an even, smooth surface thanks to the Moon’s gravity. **As the Moon cooled these glassy surfaces remained which we now see as dark smooth spots on the moon.** Later impacts didn’t undergo such a process as the lava had cooled to the point that the craters would no longer be filled in, allowing us to differentiate between old craters and more recent craters. You’re seeing this as one phenomenon, so there must only be one thing that causes it. That’s a logical fallacy. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2012, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anything-known-to-be-real-that-science-cannot-explain-at-all/617315/117 "2012-04-02T14:08:35Z")
> [@benbo1](#): > > … > Care to address the pinging [again witnessed by the astronauts and NASA] or is that too much research? Probly just easier to ask if I’m just kidding, huh? Moonquakes, you’ve seriously never heard of them? from NASA’s own [site:](http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2006/15mar_moonquakes/) > [@NASA](#): > > Furthermore, shallow moonquakes lasted a remarkably long time. Once they got going, all continued more than 10 minutes. “The moon was ringing like a bell,” Neal says. > > On Earth, vibrations from quakes usually die away in only half a minute. The reason has to do with chemical weathering, Neal explains: “Water weakens stone, expanding the structure of different minerals. When energy propagates across such a compressible structure, it acts like a foam sponge—it deadens the vibrations.” Even the biggest earthquakes stop shaking in less than 2 minutes. > > The moon, however, is dry, cool and mostly rigid, like a chunk of stone or iron. So moonquakes set it vibrating like a tuning fork. Even if a moonquake isn’t intense, “it just keeps going and going,” Neal says. And for a lunar habitat, that persistence could be more significant than a moonquake’s magnitude. So yeah, this isn’t difficult information to find. And No, the moon is not hollow. ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2012, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anything-known-to-be-real-that-science-cannot-explain-at-all/617315/118 "2012-04-02T14:11:05Z")
> [@benbo1](#): > > What I’m deriving from all this tangential criticism is 2 things: 1) the inflexibility of people who take things so literally, while being unable to grasp abstract concepts, and 2) obsessive fixation on one word. Dude, you claimed that it’s significant that the Bermuda Triangle and the the Marianas Trench are opposite or nearly opposite from each other. But they aren’t, not even close. The whole point of your thesis simply doesn’t exist. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2012, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anything-known-to-be-real-that-science-cannot-explain-at-all/617315/119 "2012-04-02T14:21:28Z")
> [@Lumpy](#): > > Dude, you claimed that it’s significant that the Bermuda Triangle and the the Marianas Trench are opposite or nearly opposite from each other. But they aren’t, not even close. The whole point of your thesis simply doesn’t exist. But isn’t the point of a thesis to ignore the facts and just make stuff up so it fits with what you’d rather believe? Besides, for every map of the earth showing the antipodes, threre’s 30,000 geocities sites claiming different. That’s just gotta count for something. Remove your close-minded mind-closers closing your minds, people! ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2012, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anything-known-to-be-real-that-science-cannot-explain-at-all/617315/120 "2012-04-02T14:51:33Z")
That’s one of the unfortunate things about the internet…information goes communist. A cite from the National Centers for Disease Control is equal to a cite from Jenny McCarthy. A cite from the Hollow Earth Society is equal to a cite from NatGeo. And even cites from reputable sources (like the magnetic anomalies map that **benbo** linked) are pretty much made to mean whatever the citer wants it to. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anything-known-to-be-real-that-science-cannot-explain-at-all/617315.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anything-known-to-be-real-that-science-cannot-explain-at-all/617315.md?page=7)