# Is there anything wrong with "class warfare"?

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**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [September 10, 2012, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anything-wrong-with-class-warfare/634349 "2012-09-10T23:03:16Z")\
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**Author:** ![mmmbeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecb155/32.png) [@mmmbeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mmmbeer)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2012, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-anything-wrong-with-class-warfare/634349/243 "2012-09-22T19:42:37Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> Recall that Romney paid more than he was obligated to just to get his tax up to 13%. And that’s just on AGI, and doesn’t include [appreciation in his Sep-IRA fund which has magically accumulated $20 to $100 million despite the small cap on contributions](http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-07-15/the-secret-behind-romney-s-magical-ira.html).
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> 13% is an interesting tax rate – it’s about what the working class pays _just for their federal payroll taxes_ even with the temporary 2% stimulus cut, and even when their income tax is zero.
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> If you think the Marxists with pitchforks are going to get Romney’s tax rate anywhere near 40%, I’ll ask what you’ve been smoking! 😃 Would 25% be “class warfare”? How about 28%?
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> What _is_ class warfare is to call the push for increasing taxes on the rich “class warfare” while insisting that the working class, who already pay a higher rate than Romney when payroll (and employer-provided) taxes are included, should pay _yet even more_ so they have “skin in the game.”
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> Right now, Romney and lowest-wage workers pay about the same, about 13% each. Do I understand that you want to drop Romney’s rate to 10% while increasing the rate on lowest-wage workers (payroll tax plus income tax) to 23% ?

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> To use a phrase taken from my comrades to the left, From each according to his means…75,000 income gives 15,000 and 75,000,000 gives 15,000,000. See, each gives according to his means? 20%

See where it says EACH according to his mean? 20%…If you were get out your dictionary, you would find that EACH means everybody!  
20% for everyone, where the hell do you get that I want to drop Romney’s rate to 10% and raise the lowest-wage workers to 23%  
20% for everyone means if Romney is someone, his rate would be 20% and if the lowest-wage worker is someone, guess what his rate would be? 20% Is that clear enough for you?

My proposal for 10% was guess what? 10% for everyone. I was commenting back to the person who suggested 20% for WHO???, understand yet??, yeah, EVERYONE.  
Do I have to spell out again that means for Romney AND the lowest-wage workers? Jesus, Joseph, and Mary.

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