# is there "rivalry" between the cities of New York and Boston (outside of sports)? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [November 27, 2012, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-rivalry-between-the-cities-of-new-york-and-boston-outside-of-sports/642241 "2012-11-27T04:05:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-rivalry-between-the-cities-of-new-york-and-boston-outside-of-sports/642241/21 "2012-11-27T16:56:17Z")
> [@Cheesesteak](#): > > The only way a New Yorker would neglect to mention where he’s from, is to have his mouth wired shut. > > This is for two reasons. First, he’ll have an accent that any Bostonian will recognize. … Yes, in the form of an unfamiliar sound called “the letter R” and a conspicuous lack of use of the adjective “wicked”. > [@Win\_Place\_Show](#): > > For instance, if you grew up in Boston, and are applying for a job on Wall Street, do you try and hide that part of your upbringing? Yes, no one from Harvard or MIT works on Wall Street. In reality, a significant number of working professionals in both cities come from other places (including Boston and New York). ---
**Author:** ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-rivalry-between-the-cities-of-new-york-and-boston-outside-of-sports/642241/22 "2012-11-27T17:06:57Z")
Isn’t that the premise of Fringe? ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-rivalry-between-the-cities-of-new-york-and-boston-outside-of-sports/642241/23 "2012-11-27T17:17:27Z")
> [@msmith537](#): > > In reality, a significant number of working professionals in both cities come from other places (including Boston and New York). This is the moderating factor. Many people migrate to these cities for work or school and end up creating the next generation of partisans. As far as accents go, we have the absolute dumbest here in RI. The New York and Boston accents have merged to form the incomprehensible Row Dilandese. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-rivalry-between-the-cities-of-new-york-and-boston-outside-of-sports/642241/24 "2012-11-27T17:27:59Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > As far as accents go, we have the absolute dumbest here in RI. And your own form of clam chowder. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-rivalry-between-the-cities-of-new-york-and-boston-outside-of-sports/642241/25 "2012-11-27T17:30:27Z")
> [@Telemark](#): > > And your own form of clam chowder. I suppose you mean the clear chowder. Rarely found even here. We also have Rhode Island Red, the proper way to make chowder with tomatoes. ---
**Author:** ![cmkeller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmkeller/32/118_2.png) [@cmkeller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmkeller)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-rivalry-between-the-cities-of-new-york-and-boston-outside-of-sports/642241/26 "2012-11-27T17:48:19Z")
Win Place Show: > [@](#): > > and I think that a case could be made that some level of bitterness has developed over the last few years, between the Giants and Patriots. More bitterness between the Jets and Pats, due to the way Bill Belichek resigned as HC of the NYJ. ---
**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-rivalry-between-the-cities-of-new-york-and-boston-outside-of-sports/642241/27 "2012-11-27T18:04:11Z")
> [@friedo](#): > > That’s true. Manhattan clam chowder is pretty terrible. And you can get good New England style in New York. > > Of course, we all know that New England clam chowder comes from Maine, not Massachusetts. 🆒 Sidebar on clam chowder: with bacon, or no? Same question re: corn chowder. I’ve been here a while but “The City” is always NYC. Sometimes I have to clarify that with folks who think I mean Boston. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-rivalry-between-the-cities-of-new-york-and-boston-outside-of-sports/642241/28 "2012-11-27T18:09:09Z")
> [@gigi](#): > > Sidebar on clam chowder: with bacon, or no? Same question re: corn chowder. IMNSHO\*, bacon is not needed in good clam chowder. Before moving here to Ningland I always used bacon, which never hurts anything, but it turns out to be unneccesary when you have abundant fresh tasty clams to load your chowder with. Onions may be a bigger controversy. \*In my not so humble opinion. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-rivalry-between-the-cities-of-new-york-and-boston-outside-of-sports/642241/29 "2012-11-27T18:35:11Z")
> [@Agent\_Foxtrot](#): > > Original New Yorker here. The funny thing is that Boston is a lot more interested in the rivalry than we are. This is pretty much how the “rivalry” between L.A. and San Francisco works. ---
**Author:** ![Noone\_Special](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/noone_special/32/2863_2.png) [@Noone\_Special](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Noone_Special)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-rivalry-between-the-cities-of-new-york-and-boston-outside-of-sports/642241/30 "2012-11-27T18:58:36Z")
I’m too far removed in time to call myself a Bostonian any more – but I came in to mention an old Red Sox T-shirt I (and others) had: Top part read “I \ NY” in the familiar square arrangement. Below that were the words “It’s just the Yankees I hate.” So at least some of us didn’t let the sports’ rivalry spill over 🙂 (Of course the same slogan could work for the Mets… If it hadn’t been for the Sox insignia on the back!) ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-rivalry-between-the-cities-of-new-york-and-boston-outside-of-sports/642241/31 "2012-11-27T19:03:47Z")
I remember that shirt. The newer one says YANKEES SUCK ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-rivalry-between-the-cities-of-new-york-and-boston-outside-of-sports/642241/32 "2012-11-27T19:22:10Z")
There’s a line of Yankee Hater products that use a YH in the style of the Yankee’s logo. Of course that stuff sells all over the country. All real Americans hate the Yankees. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-rivalry-between-the-cities-of-new-york-and-boston-outside-of-sports/642241/33 "2012-11-27T19:37:25Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > There’s a line of Yankee Hater products that use a YH in the style of the Yankee’s logo. Of course that stuff sells all over the country. All real Americans hate the Yankees. Can’t you just reserve your hate for those who really deserve it? Like Bobby Valentine. ---
**Author:** ![the\_diego](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7bcc69/32.png) [@the\_diego](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/the_diego)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2012, 8:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-rivalry-between-the-cities-of-new-york-and-boston-outside-of-sports/642241/34 "2012-11-28T08:32:48Z")
In oceanography I know they compete. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2012, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-rivalry-between-the-cities-of-new-york-and-boston-outside-of-sports/642241/35 "2012-11-28T14:40:10Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > Can’t you just reserve your hate for those who really deserve it? Like Bobby Valentine. And A-Rod. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-rivalry-between-the-cities-of-new-york-and-boston-outside-of-sports/642241.md?page=1)