# Is there still time for Elizabeth Warren to run for president? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [December 1, 2015, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-still-time-for-elizabeth-warren-to-run-for-president/739086 "2015-12-01T01:45:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2015, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-still-time-for-elizabeth-warren-to-run-for-president/739086/21 "2015-12-01T18:31:32Z")
> [@DerekMichaels00](#): > > I’m a Democrat, tho not at all a liberal one, more a libertarian/hawk one, but still, what has Warren actually achieved aside from saying nice stuff? She’s been a tenured Harvard law professor, which is a pretty big deal. She’s served on committees for the NBRC and FDIC, and chaired the TARP oversight panel. She’s now a Senator. Which of the major party candidates do you think are more accomplished? It might also interest you to know that Warren is very much a free market liberal, which should appeal to your libertarian side. ---
**Author:** ![bengangmo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@bengangmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bengangmo)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2015, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-still-time-for-elizabeth-warren-to-run-for-president/739086/22 "2015-12-02T03:35:26Z")
> [@John\_Bredin](#): > > I dare say that if the pollsters & social media watchers for a dead presidential candidate’s party sniffed even a hint of such voter confusion, they would surely run ads, social media campaigns, and talking heads on the interview shows reminding the voters in no uncertain terms that voting for the dead presidential candidate is not pointless because either the living VP candidate would become President or the Electors for the dead candidate would pick a President from the same party. Too true The converse of that, quite naturally is that I can imagine certain groups wanting to maximise the confusion - seeing advantage in it. I can imagine the ads - Vote TRUMP, smarter than a dead person! ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2015, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-still-time-for-elizabeth-warren-to-run-for-president/739086/23 "2015-12-02T04:24:29Z")
> [@bengangmo](#): > > Vote TRUMP, smarter than a dead person! Do you really think Trump’s a better politician than John Ashcroft? Career politicians have lost to dead people. ---
**Author:** ![bengangmo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@bengangmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bengangmo)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2015, 6:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-still-time-for-elizabeth-warren-to-run-for-president/739086/24 "2015-12-02T06:46:38Z")
> [@Derleth](#): > > Do you really think Trump’s a better politician than John Ashcroft? > > Career politicians have lost to dead people. I can remember once comparing a particularly vapid supermodel as having the intellect of a dead sheep. This is roughly where I would place The Donald. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2015, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-still-time-for-elizabeth-warren-to-run-for-president/739086/25 "2015-12-02T20:51:35Z")
GloryDays- After discussion, Tom and I would like you to moderate (ha!) your starting of threads. We welcome you to the SDMB, of course, but starting 17 threads in a month seems excessive for a beginner. -JC ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2015, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-still-time-for-elizabeth-warren-to-run-for-president/739086/26 "2015-12-11T03:46:44Z")
I have the impression that Elizabeth Warren would rather be a good Senator than a less-good President. I don’t expect her ever to run. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2015, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-still-time-for-elizabeth-warren-to-run-for-president/739086/27 "2015-12-11T03:50:08Z")
Yeah, if she was going to do it, this was her moment. I think she would have beaten Clinton. She’s a genuine rock star and would be as formidable against Clinton as Obama was. That doesn’t mean she won’t be President though. If for whatever reason Clinton had to exit the race before the convention and there were a lot of unpledged delegates, they can nominate anyone they want. It would probably be Biden in that case, but if Warren let her name be placed in nomination she’d probably get a lot of votes. ---
**Author:** ![Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulf_the_Unwashed)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2015, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-still-time-for-elizabeth-warren-to-run-for-president/739086/28 "2015-12-12T01:59:20Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Yeah, if she was going to do it, this was her moment. I think she would have beaten Clinton. She’s a genuine rock star and would be as formidable against Clinton as Obama was. > > That doesn’t mean she won’t be President though. If for whatever reason Clinton had to exit the race before the convention and there were a lot of unpledged delegates, they can nominate anyone they want. It would probably be Biden in that case, but if Warren let her name be placed in nomination she’d probably get a lot of votes. The folks I know who really, REALLY longed for Elizabeth Warren all seem to be supporting Sanders. (Some of them really, REALLY longed for Mario Cuomo back in the day, too.) Anecdotal, of course, but I don’t think I know anyone currently supporting Clinton who wishes Warren had run. I don’t think of her as a rock star or as especially capable of beating Clinton–I think the appeal has been “not-Hillary” and more specifically “to Hillary’s left,” a position which has been staked out nicely by Sanders and doesn’t by definition have a lot of overlap with people who really like Clinton. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-still-time-for-elizabeth-warren-to-run-for-president/739086.md?page=1)