# Is there such a Thing as "Western Civilzation" ? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [November 20, 2017, 9:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-such-a-thing-as-western-civilzation/802176 "2017-11-20T09:56:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 20
**Author:** ![Les\_Espaces\_Du\_Sommeil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/les_espaces_du_sommeil/32/308_2.png) [@Les\_Espaces\_Du\_Sommeil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Les_Espaces_Du_Sommeil)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2017, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-such-a-thing-as-western-civilzation/802176/20 "2017-11-23T12:10:12Z")
Yes, I feel the same way about the Czech. Actually, I wrote this in the [“Brexit and the Irish Border Conundrum” thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=20604890#post20604890) that led me to start this one: > [@Brexit and the Irish Border Conundrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brexit-and-the-irish-border-conundrum/797185/121): > > … > > Finally, the “Eastern Wave” of the early 2000s may have been a mistake. A move that was both noble _and_ pragmatic but which led to real problems. Listening to Hungarian or Polish leaders, it’s clear that they come from a very different reference point. And of course, it’s played into the hands of the “we’re not racist but we’re concerned about ethnic homogeneity” crowd. I must admit **I’m a bit surprised by the veer to the right in the Czech Republic, though. I always saw it as the most Western-looking of these countries.** > [@Tamerlane](#): > > No? Russia doesn’t have experience with colonialism on a global scale? Russia, one of the participants in the [Great Game](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Game)? > > Russia, like Manchu China, expanded over land rather than over sea. But they expanded _enormously_ and colonialism is colonialism :). You know, as soon as I posted it, I remembered Russia’s eastward expansion :o. Still, I’m on the fence about this. There’s no doubt that it covered a vast area but it was also contained on one continent, albeit a huge one. There was no Russian presence in Africa or Oceania and only a relatively short-lived one in America. Colonialism may be colonialsim but was Russia’s as global as Spain’s, Britain’s or France’s ? --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-such-a-thing-as-western-civilzation/802176)._