Is this a crime?

Assuming any of your post is actually true, I seriously doubt you’ll be getting 10k in donations. Unless your expecting 10k in school loans/grant money.

The PO box would have triggered red flags for me. How much does a PO box cost anyway? And would a starving student pay this instead of just receiving mail at his place of residents?

It doesn’t seem plausible to me.

I was once a starving student and sprung for the (what was it at the time, $13/mo or something??). Anyway, no idea what it costs now, but back in the day i$150+/yr was worth it to me because I was constantly moving/changing addresses & the US mail system was not all that great at processing those change of address forms efficiently.

Bills would get lost in transit and I’d end up paying late fees. Pain. But in the electronic age, I’m not sure how it all plays out.

Eta: I was also interviewing at the time & needed a consistent address for my resume.

If you can find it in your heart to forgive me, send one dollar to Sorry Dude, 742 Evergreen Terrace, Springfield. You have the power.

Residence, not residents. :smack:

This is creepy. Is the OP asking how he can avoid prosecution for this scam? Is there another way to read this?

One question: where does he admit that he is actually not the newspaper carrier?
Does he say it in so many words or are we just going on what this detective person said?

(Sorry, but I’m recovering from a migraine and my brain is a bit fuzzy.)

Another question: In what way is he soliciting for money in the original message?
(Although expecting $10,000 in his PO box probably not the wisest thing to admit to on a public message board)

It doesn’t matter. If you read the law (linked in previous post) if your fraudulent scheme causes other people to mail things TO you to achieve your fraud (fer instance, money obtained by misrepresentation) it is mail fraud.

The postal inspector has the right to impound mail during a mail fraud investigation.

He says:

I’m sure a careful reading means he delivers SOMEONE’s newspaper every day, but if you found this hanging on your door, the implication is that he delivers your paper. The days of knowing your delivery person personally are pretty much gone, and the OP is playing on this.

Then he says:

…and yes, IMVHO, he IS impersonating a figure who does provide a service to that household, and is very unlikely to be the person who delivers papers to the entirety of Milwaukee and Waukesha counties.

Not specifically asking for a donation or tip is another razor-thin technicality. The cards we get from our paper delivery folks and such never do, either - they just say “Thanks for being a customer of the __________ and supporting my job delivering it! Happy Holidays!” … with a discreet mailing address.

He’s pulling a scam, he knows it, someone has called him on it, and he’s stupid enough to post endless actionable details here trying to get a free legal pass on the matter.

Are people really stupid enough to mail their newspaper carrier tips/holiday bonus to a random PO Box? I guess maybe so! I think I’ll stick to including it with my monthly invoice.

I’m confused, people still get newspapers?

Generically this is theft by deception. Since its not my state I’m not sure if it fits specifically in any of their statutes because I don’t know the precedents. It certainly is a shitty thing to do and immoral as hell. I’m also 100% sure the OP is not giving all the information.

Hard habit to shake. :slight_smile:

Keep in mind, the only evidence we have that ANY of this story is true is the OP’s post.

Two men, in Milwaukee, sentenced to jail for the samething.

Looks like the worst place to try to pull this off would be Milwaukee. There was a public outcry just a few years ago, the cops are probably hyper vigilant

Are you really this clueless or is this a poor attempt at humor? :rolleyes:

At least three newspapers have circulation figures of over one million.

I would bet my nonexistant xmas bonus that the “police” that called was the actual paper carried pissed off when someone told him/her about the letters that went out.

Lighten up Francis. Sorry I poked your sacred cow.

I read your same post over on findlawanswers, but did not answer over there. Until an actual charge is made, you do not know what crime, if any, is being possibly violated, could be a bluff?

ASK the detective for a SPECIFIC law he is contemplating charging you with?

I’m confused about the OP.

Is he the person who delivered the candy and the message, or does he just have the same name?

On the FB page for a Michael Madden, Franklin WI, there’s one of those e-card posts with the caption: “It’s not worth the jail time.”

WTF?