# Is this a fake movie? Tomie beginning on youtube
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-a-fake-movie-tomie-beginning-on-youtube/1005996
**Category:** Cafe Society
**Tags:** movies
**Created:** [August 21, 2024, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-a-fake-movie-tomie-beginning-on-youtube/1005996 "2024-08-21T14:02:53Z")
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### Author:  [@Iori\_Yagami](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Iori_Yagami)
#### Post date: [August 21, 2024, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-a-fake-movie-tomie-beginning-on-youtube/1005996/1 "2024-08-21T14:02:53Z")
I found a J-horror (adaptation from Junji Ito horror manga) movie called Tomie Beginning or Tomie The Beginning (yeah, as a non-native English speaker articles are somewhat optional for me) on youtube and it seems very very odd. Is it a real movie, or did someone make a similar amateur film on the same topic and maybe reuse some scenes from original japanese 2007 film? There are a couple of pics on IMDB and they sort of don’t match the youtube version and sort of do. I don’t really want to sit through it to be disappointed later. I saw earlier Tomie-themed movies, and their were true real movies (4 theatricals and 1 straight-to-video). Not sure about this one (I am not giving link, just search for full tomie beginning). Is it real, edited, compiled? Video’s duration doesn’t match the official movie runtime. Odd, huh?
Now I wonder should I also create a separate thread for discussing the quality of amateur free yotube movies or rather the lack of quality and their suckage? I mean, I am not a learned cinematographer, but I immediately see them as ‘off’. Is it boring eventless scene editing? Wooden acting? Non-existent camera work? Pointlessly prolonged dialogue? I mean, a lot of random people talk about lighting and type of films and sound, but come on, it’s secondary. Equipment is less important than actual cinematic skill.
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### Author:  [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)
#### Post date: [August 21, 2024, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-a-fake-movie-tomie-beginning-on-youtube/1005996/2 "2024-08-21T14:11:23Z")
> **[Tomie (film series)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomie_(film_series))**
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> Tomie (富江) is a Japanese horror film series based on Junji Ito's manga of the same name. The series consists of nine installments to date.
> The series focuses on the titular Tomie Kawakami, a beautiful young girl identified by a mole under her left eye, who drives her stricken admirers to madness, often resulting in her own death. However, due to her ability of regeneration, she comes back to life to terrorize her killers.
> Each cell of her body has the ability to generate into a full grown indep...
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### Author:  [@Iori\_Yagami](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Iori_Yagami)
#### Post date: [August 21, 2024, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-a-fake-movie-tomie-beginning-on-youtube/1005996/3 "2024-08-21T14:19:45Z")
Dude, did you read the post thoroughly? I know the series, I know the wiki, my question was about different issue.
It is specifically about that stuff on youtube, whether that’s a real one, or a amateur remake/compilation and stuff, kinda like Transmorphers after Transformers, getting the idea?
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### Author:  [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)
#### Post date: [August 21, 2024, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-a-fake-movie-tomie-beginning-on-youtube/1005996/4 "2024-08-21T14:26:49Z")
> [@Iori\_Yagami](#):
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> Dude, did you read the post thoroughly?
Dude, did you read the reference throughly? You claimed that there were 5 film adaptations, when in fact there are 9. All of which are described. One of which is _Tomie: Beginning_, which has a paragraph describing that 2005 direct-to-video movie and a link to a dedicated page:
> **[Tomie: Beginning](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomie:_Beginning)**
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> Tomie: Beginning (富江 BEGINNING) is a 2005 Japanese horror film directed by Ataru Oikawa and the fifth installment of the Tomie film series, serving as a direct prequel to the 1998 film Tomie, with Kenji Mizuhashi reprising his role as Kenichi Yamamoto.
> This installment deals with the chain of events that occurred right before the first film takes place: when Tomie Kawakami (Rio Matsumoto) shows up as a transfer student at a high school, many boys in the class, including the teacher Satoru Takagi...
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### Author:  [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)
#### Post date: [August 21, 2024, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-a-fake-movie-tomie-beginning-on-youtube/1005996/5 "2024-08-21T14:26:57Z")
Chill out. He was just providing context for those of us not familiar with the original
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### Author:  [@Iori\_Yagami](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Iori_Yagami)
#### Post date: [August 21, 2024, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-a-fake-movie-tomie-beginning-on-youtube/1005996/6 "2024-08-21T14:36:44Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> you read the reference throughly? You claimed that there were 5 film adaptations, when in fact there are 9.
Not quite. I know that about 9 films. I never posted about it, because I assume just like any of us we can google and wiki by our own, right?
What I said is _I saw_ 5 adaptations. That’s why I am curious about the other later ones, many of which are available online, oddly. And all of them are somehow odd-looking, kinda non-professional. Given that youtube is full of godawful disappointing amateur big movie lookalikes, my questions become even clearer, right?
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### Author:  [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)
#### Post date: [August 21, 2024, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-a-fake-movie-tomie-beginning-on-youtube/1005996/7 "2024-08-21T14:45:39Z")
I could point out that the length of an hour and a half given at IMDB and Wikipedia is apparently wrong, with it listed at 1:15 at Apple, which lines up with the 1:10 of the Youtube video without closing credits.
> **[Tomie: Beginning - Apple TV](https://tv.apple.com/us/movie/tomie-beginning/umc.cmc.12t5k6vyl9v5iek16j0tjwudp)**
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> A high school transfer student's beauty masks an unexplainable evil. Subtitled.
I could point out that the cast list from the opening credits of the Youtube movie Tomie Beginning matches the cast list for the Wikipedia cast list for Tomie Beginning.
But since you seem to want to be hostile about it, I’ll just point out that, based on this post, you are apparently a former member returning under a different name.
> [@Just feeding back that virtually everything is awful](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-feeding-back-that-virtually-everything-is-awful/967313/177):
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> New version is atrocious. Why do post boxes take up 1/4 of screen width leaving the rest blank? Why so primitive? Not last post, no topic starter, no nothing. No pages to look through, just pointless confusing unusable endless scroll garbage. It is desktop, dumbo. Why are you slapping your mobile interface here?
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### Author:  [@Iori\_Yagami](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Iori_Yagami)
#### Post date: [August 21, 2024, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-a-fake-movie-tomie-beginning-on-youtube/1005996/8 "2024-08-21T14:57:28Z")
Let’s hope it’s real then. Why pay when you don’t have to, right?
It is very different in tone to earlier ones, so it does look odd.
Offtopic
Also, interface on desktop is bad. Not really an argument. Are there any alternative similar minded forums, but with old-but-gold interface? Nope. Snopes forum is dead and buried, Giraffe board is a ghost town with occasional grampas chatting once in a while, Xkcd is bombed and burned to cinders. So, you get what you can. Still it doesn’t make it good.
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### Author:  [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)
#### Post date: [August 21, 2024, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-a-fake-movie-tomie-beginning-on-youtube/1005996/9 "2024-08-21T15:14:23Z")
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### Author:  [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)
#### Post date: [August 21, 2024, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-a-fake-movie-tomie-beginning-on-youtube/1005996/10 "2024-08-21T15:18:16Z")
**Moderating** : This thread is off to a very aggressive start. Both @Iori_Yagami and @Darren_Garrison need to dial back the hostility in future threads.
Also **Darren\_Garrison** , accusations of socking up or trolling do not belong anywhere but The Pit or in a Flag.
This one is enough of a mess that I’m going to thread ban the thread itself and leave it closed.