# Is this a real conspiracy theory?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 19, 2013, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-a-real-conspiracy-theory/658730 "2013-05-19T06:50:45Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Darth\_Nader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Darth\_Nader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Nader)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2013, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-a-real-conspiracy-theory/658730/21 "2013-05-19T21:21:32Z")

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Told ya. Fucking Elvis. Someone should stop that guy.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2013, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-a-real-conspiracy-theory/658730/22 "2013-05-19T21:25:37Z")

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> [@Darth\_Nader](#):
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> Told ya. Fucking Elvis. Someone should stop that guy.

But who? Batman’s been compromised.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2013, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-a-real-conspiracy-theory/658730/23 "2013-05-19T23:56:40Z")

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This conspiracy theory by “Pete Santilli, website host” is actually a black op by the Bilderbergs and Big Pharma to distract our attention from the plot to kill off most of the world’s population through chemtrails and vaccines.

I’m surprised Dopers are too naive to see it. :mad:😕:smack:

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**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2013, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-a-real-conspiracy-theory/658730/24 "2013-05-20T00:14:17Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> That’s right. Bill Clinton is Obama’s father.

**Barack Obama:** _“NOOOOOOO!!!”_

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2013, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-a-real-conspiracy-theory/658730/25 "2013-05-20T00:38:57Z")

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I think he’s getting ready to be Nutjob #1 when Phelps passes.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2013, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-a-real-conspiracy-theory/658730/26 "2013-05-20T02:39:17Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> I was reading about Pete Santilli, a website host who’s saying that Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama should be shot. And he’s rambling on about all the things he’s claimed they did. There was the stuff I expected about Benghazi but then he went on to say that Clinton and Obama was involved in the bin Laden conspiracy. Apparently he believes that the killing of bin Laden was faked and all of the SEALs who were on the supposed mission have been killed by the government because they knew the truth.

How do you send real people on a supposed mission? Doesn’t it become a real mission then? If this was a conspiracy, it would have been easier to send fake people to not do something than to send real people and then have to get rid of them. And who has been killing off the SEALs; is there some kind of extra-special ops unit? How big is it; once you’ve got secret people killing the real people on the fake mission, are there more people in on the conspiracy, or less?

And how did they get bin Laden to go along with this? Surely, once his death was announced he’d like nothing better than to embarrass the U.S, by showing up someplace all alive and shit.

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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2013, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-a-real-conspiracy-theory/658730/27 "2013-05-20T03:02:21Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> I was reading about Pete Santilli, a website host who’s saying that Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama should be shot. And he’s rambling on about all the things he’s claimed they did. There was the stuff I expected about Benghazi but then he went on to say that Clinton and Obama was involved in the bin Laden conspiracy. Apparently he believes that the killing of bin Laden was faked and **all of the SEALs who were on the supposed mission have been killed by the government because they knew the truth.**
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> .

LOL. You gotta love that nut-job logic.

So the guys that killed the SEALs, were they killed too because _they_\* knew the truth?

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2013, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-a-real-conspiracy-theory/658730/28 "2013-05-20T03:06:54Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> How do you send real people on a supposed mission? Doesn’t it become a real mission then? If this was a conspiracy, it would have been easier to send fake people to not do something than to send real people and then have to get rid of them. And who has been killing off the SEALs; is there some kind of extra-special ops unit? How big is it; once you’ve got secret people killing the real people on the fake mission, are there more people in on the conspiracy, or less?
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> And how did they get bin Laden to go along with this? Surely, once his death was announced he’d like nothing better than to embarrass the U.S, by showing up someplace all alive and shit.

You’re acting like this is supposed to make sense. We’re talking about the kind of people who believe Barack Obama is both a Muslim and an atheist.

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**Author:** ![buckgully](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eb9ed0/32.png) [@buckgully](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buckgully)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2013, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-a-real-conspiracy-theory/658730/29 "2013-05-20T03:53:41Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> How do you send real people on a supposed mission? …  
> And how did they get bin Laden to go along with this? Surely, once his death was announced he’d like nothing better than to embarrass the U.S, by showing up someplace all alive and shit.

You know what I always say\*: “You can’t use logic to argue a man out of a position he used fucking batshit crazy to get himself into.”

\*I haven’t actually always said this, but I will from now on.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2013, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-a-real-conspiracy-theory/658730/30 "2013-05-20T12:49:55Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> And who has been killing off the SEALs; is there some kind of extra-special ops unit? How big is it; once you’ve got secret people killing the real people on the fake mission, are there more people in on the conspiracy, or less?

Look, the watchword is simplicity: it’s a _one-person_ hit squad who answers only to the President, obsessively talking up physical fitness and toning her arms.

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**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2013, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-a-real-conspiracy-theory/658730/31 "2013-05-20T14:56:38Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> And how did they get bin Laden to go along with this? Surely, once his death was announced he’d like nothing better than to embarrass the U.S, by showing up someplace all alive and shit.

Just like the seals. Obama had him murdered so he wouldn’t talk.

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**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2013, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-a-real-conspiracy-theory/658730/32 "2013-05-20T15:32:44Z")

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I’m still trying to understand the Angelina Jolie mastectomy conspiracy. Seriously this is a real thing but I don’t even understand what the conspiracy is supposed to be. I need to un-friend that guy on Facebook.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2013, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-a-real-conspiracy-theory/658730/33 "2013-05-20T15:40:29Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> Look, the watchword is simplicity: it’s a _one-person_ hit squad who answers only to the President, obsessively talking up physical fitness and toning her arms.

Her? Remo isn’t going to like being called a female.

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**Author:** ![yanceylebeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yanceylebeef/32/12290_2.png) [@yanceylebeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yanceylebeef)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2013, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-a-real-conspiracy-theory/658730/34 "2013-05-20T16:15:32Z")

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> [@Foggy](#):
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> Now a days it seems the only answer for this question:
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> In a word yes. It’s like Rule #34, if you mention it there is now a CT about it, and also porn.
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> (sigh)

Little known fact…Internet rule #35: 9/11 porn.

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**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2013, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-a-real-conspiracy-theory/658730/35 "2013-05-20T16:39:20Z")

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That guy’s like a hammer and all his problems look like nails, but replace “hammer” with “gun” and “nails” with “gaping chest wounds”

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**Author:** ![Balance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Balance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balance)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2013, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-a-real-conspiracy-theory/658730/36 "2013-05-20T16:58:12Z")

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> [@Shakes](#):
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> LOL. You gotta love that nut-job logic.
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> So the guys that killed the SEALs, were they killed too because _they_\* knew the truth?

This sounds like one of those plans where you lose your hat, and everyone knows that [any plan where you lose your hat is a bad plan](http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20031017)

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2013, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-a-real-conspiracy-theory/658730/37 "2013-05-20T17:34:31Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> I was reading about Pete Santilli, a website host who’s saying that Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama should be shot.

And that Hillary in particular [needs to be shot in the vagina](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/18/pete-santilli-hillary-clinton_n_3299247.html).

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2013, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-a-real-conspiracy-theory/658730/38 "2013-05-21T17:36:45Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> And how did they get bin Laden to go along with this? Surely, once his death was announced he’d like nothing better than to embarrass the U.S, by showing up someplace all alive and shit.

Not if he’s already dead. See post 17.

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**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2013, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-a-real-conspiracy-theory/658730/39 "2013-05-21T17:54:10Z")

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I’m still trying to wrap my brain around the fact that he blames George H.W. Bush for the killing of JFK.

That’s like blaming FDR for the Lusitania.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2013, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-a-real-conspiracy-theory/658730/40 "2013-05-21T18:22:56Z")

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> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#):
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> I’m still trying to wrap my brain around the fact that he blames George H.W. Bush for the killing of JFK.
> 
> That’s like blaming FDR for the Lusitania.

No, actually I’ve heard that one before.

The theory is that Bush didn’t really join the CIA when he became director in 1976. Supposedly he had been a covert CIA agent for years and he only came out in the open when he was made director.

[http://tomflocco.com/fs/FbiMemoPhotoLinkBushJfk.htm](http://tomflocco.com/fs/FbiMemoPhotoLinkBushJfk.htm)  
[http://jfkmurdersolved.com/bush.htm](http://jfkmurdersolved.com/bush.htm)  
[http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/11/16/was-george-h-w-bush-involved-in-the-assassination-of-jfk/](http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/11/16/was-george-h-w-bush-involved-in-the-assassination-of-jfk/)

> **[George Bush, Skull & Bones, and the JFK Assassination](https://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20Government/War%20on%20Drugs%20Scam/Order%20of%20Skull%20&%20Bones/bush_bones_jfk_assassination.htm)**

And as an added bonus, here’s a site that claims George W. Bush killed John F. Kennedy, Jr.

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