# Is this a real quote?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-a-real-quote/572092>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [February 21, 2011, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-a-real-quote/572092 "2011-02-21T05:21:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 12\
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**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2011, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-a-real-quote/572092/21 "2011-02-22T14:31:49Z")

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“Those who would give unto Caesar the smallest bit of Liberty, will suffer under tyrannic healthcare and have all but their last grain of wheat taken by those who would promise all and yet have not even an item confirming birth amoung them”

Paul’s Letters to the Wasillians

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2011, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-a-real-quote/572092/22 "2011-02-22T14:59:53Z")

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> [@matt\_mcl](#):
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> Or as someone put it, read it as “my mother, drunk or sober.”

That was Chesterton:

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> ‘My country, right or wrong,’ is a thing that no patriot would think of saying except in a desperate case. It is like saying, 'My mother, drunk or sober."

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**Author:** ![Deeg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deeg/32/2955_2.png) [@Deeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deeg)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2011, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-a-real-quote/572092/23 "2011-02-22T19:12:35Z")

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As an aside, I usually use [WikiQuote.com](http://WikiQuote.com) to verify quotes.

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**Author:** ![Keeve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f07891/32.png) [@Keeve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Keeve)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2011, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-a-real-quote/572092/24 "2011-02-22T19:23:54Z")

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> [@Freudian\_Slit](#):
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> Well, now that it’s been typed out it’s a real quote, isn’t it?

I don’t think typing and posting is enough. I think someone would have to actually say it aloud too.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2011, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-a-real-quote/572092/25 "2011-02-22T19:35:06Z")

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> What does appear in B. Franklin’s quotes is the following, which I kinda like and think bears repeating in its entirety…

Which also, I think, is good evidence that Franklin would agree with the sentiment that “Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy”, even if he never said it in exactly those words.

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**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2011, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-a-real-quote/572092/26 "2011-02-22T19:35:29Z")

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_“I think there is a world market for maybe five computers”_ - George Washington

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2011, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-a-real-quote/572092/27 "2011-02-22T21:01:23Z")

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> Which also, I think, is good evidence that Franklin would agree with the sentiment that “Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy”, even if he never said it in exactly those words.

Agreed. But it’s no excuse to go screwing with Franklin’s words.  
–CalMeacham, oenophile

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2011, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-a-real-quote/572092/28 "2011-02-22T22:10:52Z")

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> [@Mijin](#):
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> _“I think there is a world market for maybe five computers”_ - George Washington

That was George Washinton _Carver_

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2011, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-a-real-quote/572092/29 "2011-02-23T02:29:54Z")

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> [@Darth\_Panda](#):
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> That was George Washinton _Carver_

No, no. He was talking about crates of peanut butter.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2011, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-a-real-quote/572092/30 "2011-02-23T03:06:38Z")

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“I said it once before, but it bears repeating, now” – Oscar Wilde.

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**Author:** ![NicePete](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ee7513/32.png) [@NicePete](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NicePete)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2011, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-a-real-quote/572092/31 "2011-02-23T21:15:08Z")

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“A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to teach you how to use commas properly.”

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**Author:** ![brujaja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4af34b/32.png) [@brujaja](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brujaja)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2011, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-a-real-quote/572092/32 "2011-02-23T21:42:57Z")

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> [@SeldomSeen](#):
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> What _does_ appear in B. Franklin’s quotes is the following…
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> To confirm still more your piety and gratitude to Divine Providence, reflect upon the situation which it has given to the elbow. You see (Figures 1 and 2) in animals, who are intended to drink the waters that flow upon the earth, that if they have long legs, they have also a long neck, so that they can get at their drink without kneeling down. But man, who was destined to drink wine, must be able to raise the glass to his mouth. If the elbow had been placed nearer the hand (as in Figure 3), the part in advance would have been too short to bring the glass up to the mouth; and if it had been placed nearer the shoulder, (as in Figure 4) that part would have been so long that it would have carried the wine far beyond the mouth. But by the actual situation, (represented in Figure 5), we are enabled to drink at our ease, the glass going exactly to the mouth. Let us, then, with glass in hand, adore this benevolent wisdom; – let us adore and drink!\* - It’s in a letter written circa 1779 while Franklin was in Paris.
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> SS

Oh, wow!! So that’s where THIS came from:

_“God bless the human elbow,  
God bless it where it bends,  
if it bent too short, we’d be dry, I fear,  
if it bent too long, we’d be drinking in our ear,  
God bless the human elbow, God bless it where it bends!”_

—Oak Ash & Thorn?

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