# Is this an authentic hobbit hole?--More on the LoTR debate **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [October 19, 1999, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-an-authentic-hobbit-hole-more-on-the-lotr-debate/16842 "1999-10-19T04:40:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Koxinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4af34b/32.png) [@Koxinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koxinga)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 1999, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-an-authentic-hobbit-hole-more-on-the-lotr-debate/16842/1 "1999-10-19T04:40:00Z")
Yo, my contribution to the LoTR debate: [http://www.aint-it-cool-news.com/images/lotr-hobbit-hole.jpg](http://www.aint-it-cool-news.com/images/lotr-hobbit-hole.jpg) It was included in this link (with pertinent news about the LoTR movie): [http://www.aint-it-cool-news.com/display.cgi?id=4543](http://www.aint-it-cool-news.com/display.cgi?id=4543) Hope these UBB codes work. DHR ---
**Author:** ![RTA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b4bc9f/32.png) [@RTA](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTA)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 1999, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-an-authentic-hobbit-hole-more-on-the-lotr-debate/16842/2 "1999-10-19T11:34:00Z")
Well, except for looking like something from _Davey and Goliath_, I guess that’s generally acceptable. ---
**Author:** ![Alphagene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Alphagene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alphagene)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 1999, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-an-authentic-hobbit-hole-more-on-the-lotr-debate/16842/3 "1999-10-19T13:51:00Z")
Looks like the Teletubbies’ summer home. Hello Po! Hello Frodo! * * * “The world ends when I die. And as far as I’m concerned, the rest of the universe might as well call it a day too.” – Matt Groening ---
**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 1999, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-an-authentic-hobbit-hole-more-on-the-lotr-debate/16842/4 "1999-10-19T16:02:00Z")
> [@](#): > > The best rooms were all on the lefthand side (going in), for these were the only ones to have windows, deep-set round windows looking over his garden, and meadows beyond, sloping down to the river. _ **The Hobbit** _, J.R.R. Tolkein, 1937, first page of text in Chapter 1, An Unexpected Party. You would think they could at least get the simple things right… \< sighing \> ---
**Author:** ![C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b2d939/32.png) [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C_K_Dexter_Haven)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 1999, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-an-authentic-hobbit-hole-more-on-the-lotr-debate/16842/5 "1999-10-19T16:15:00Z")
… and what’s with the telephone poles and cable lines? (See upper left of photo.) ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 1999, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-an-authentic-hobbit-hole-more-on-the-lotr-debate/16842/6 "1999-10-19T18:09:00Z")
Well, CK, when the palantir network is down, you need a wired backup system. ; 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![SpoonsJTD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b2d939/32.png) [@SpoonsJTD](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpoonsJTD)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 1999, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-an-authentic-hobbit-hole-more-on-the-lotr-debate/16842/7 "1999-10-19T18:29:00Z")
DSY said: > [@](#): > > ## quote: > > ## The best rooms were all on the lefthand side (going in), for these were the only ones to have windows, deep-set round windows looking over his garden, and meadows beyond, sloping down to the river. > > The Hobbit, J.R.R. Tolkein, 1937, first page of text in Chapter 1, An Unexpected Party. > > You would think they could at least get the simple things right… \< sighing \> It is admittedly been a while since I have picked up one of my various copies of the hobbit, but without the context of this description, I can easily see how this could be a specific description of (Bilbo’s?) hobbit hole, and not a housing plan for all the hobbit holes. This then would allow for various placements of windows for others. I find the picture to look a lot like how I would have pictured a hobbit hole. Compared to some of the other liberties they will surely have to take in recreating Middle Earth, this seems to be a fairly small one. If nothing else, this proves one thing: GD’ers can argue about ANYTHING. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Arnold\_Winkelried](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Arnold\_Winkelried](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arnold_Winkelried)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 1999, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-an-authentic-hobbit-hole-more-on-the-lotr-debate/16842/8 "1999-10-19T18:32:00Z")
I will have to re-read the hobbit, but the picture seems OK to me. I thought that the wooden posts on the upper left were a fence. ## **DSYoungEsq** , I’m not sure your objection applies, because we don’t know if the picture is supposed to represent Bilbo Baggins’ home. J’ai assez vécu pour voir que différence engendre haine. Henri B. Stendhal ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 1999, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-an-authentic-hobbit-hole-more-on-the-lotr-debate/16842/9 "1999-10-19T19:50:00Z")
Thanks Doghouse. I haven’t been there in a while. I like the picture, but I do hope it’s not Bag End. (In the link, Harry did say he didn’t know what it was supposed to depict.) -andros- * * * “Listen Children Eternal Father Eternally One!” Exceptions? None! -Doc Bronner