# Is this article a joke (Samantha Brick: I'm hated because I'm beautiful)

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [April 4, 2012, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-article-a-joke-samantha-brick-im-hated-because-im-beautiful/617852 "2012-04-04T20:39:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2012, 9:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-article-a-joke-samantha-brick-im-hated-because-im-beautiful/617852/81 "2012-04-09T09:19:33Z")

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I was just about to post that article, **hermette**. Pertinent quotes:

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> …there are legions of stories out there by female freelancers whose articles for the Daily Mail were slaughtered to fit that paper’s agenda and attract attention, generally of the negative kind.  
> …  
> In 2009, Laura Scott was interviewed by the paper about her decision to not have children which, she wrote, stemmed from a lack of desire for biological children. The article was changed into a ghostwritten first person piece intimating childless adults hate parents and was full of factual inaccuracies. In the piece, Scott’s friend Marie calls her “selfish” for not having children. “I do not have a friend called Marie,” Scott wrote on her blog.  
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> In 2010, Cat Hughes says she pitched an article to the Daily Mail’s Femail section about how coming off benefits had helped her self-esteem. … “I wanted to write about my experience of being horribly ill, but finding solace and focus in work.” … However, when the article was edited she was portrayed as lazy and a scrounger… [She] was not expecting a headline like “Middle class and hooked on benefits”. The predictable online reaction to it the next day made her collapse.

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**Author:** ![Cinnamon\_Imp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/58956e/32.png) [@Cinnamon\_Imp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cinnamon_Imp)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2012, 9:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-article-a-joke-samantha-brick-im-hated-because-im-beautiful/617852/82 "2012-04-09T09:27:58Z")

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> [@gracer](#):
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> Ah, of course the Guardian would do a better job of explaining this! Thank you 🙂

Not at all - I just assumed from your post that you’d already read the article as you seemed to be agreeing with it so well 😉

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**Author:** ![Corcaigh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Corcaigh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Corcaigh)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2012, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-article-a-joke-samantha-brick-im-hated-because-im-beautiful/617852/83 "2012-04-09T18:07:03Z")

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The did a follow up where a reporter met the woman in person, and apparently she is breathtaking when you see her in the flesh, but no men were throwing flowers or anything at her.

And she’s apparently a lovely woman to talk to.  
:dubious:

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**Author:** ![Bytegeist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9dc877/32.png) [@Bytegeist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bytegeist)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2012, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-article-a-joke-samantha-brick-im-hated-because-im-beautiful/617852/84 "2012-04-09T20:36:18Z")

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> [@LurkerInNJ](#):
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> I get free things from men all the time and it’s been a long time since I was 22. … I don’t get in line at Starbucks thinking I hope some man announces _I’ll get that for you_ and swipes his card after I order, but it happens. I think it’s sweet.

I bet you never lift anything over [three pounds](http://www.seinfeldscripts.com/TheCalzone.htm).

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**Author:** ![control-z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eada6e/32.png) [@control-z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/control-z)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2012, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-article-a-joke-samantha-brick-im-hated-because-im-beautiful/617852/85 "2012-04-11T15:44:27Z")

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There are definitely people who are not just physically attractive but have some sort of magnetism about them, their personality or mannerisms. She may be one of them. Why it’s news-worthy I’m not sure.

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**Author:** ![Woodenspoon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/bc79bd/32.png) [@Woodenspoon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Woodenspoon)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2012, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-article-a-joke-samantha-brick-im-hated-because-im-beautiful/617852/86 "2012-04-12T00:10:16Z")

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> [@hermette](#):
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> I quite liked this article explaining it all:  
> “The Daily Mail uses its female writers in precisely the same way it uses its female readers and celebrities: frequently, centrally and, always, cruelly. Like an abusive husband, the Daily Mail courts women and needs women, but will always turn around and punch them in the face. Because [the Daily Mail hates women.](http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/apr/04/samantha-brick-thrown-to-wolves)”

lol hates women…guardian trolling while accusing the daily mail of trolling…thats uk media for ya:)

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2012, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-article-a-joke-samantha-brick-im-hated-because-im-beautiful/617852/87 "2012-04-12T00:15:23Z")

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Hmmm… the writer of the Guardian article is hotter than Brick (at least based on the byline pic). What does that mean?

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**Author:** ![Corcaigh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Corcaigh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Corcaigh)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2012, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-article-a-joke-samantha-brick-im-hated-because-im-beautiful/617852/88 "2012-04-13T20:29:31Z")

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She’s going to be on The Late Late Show tonight on RTÉ 1 (no idea if that’s available online outside of Ireland) to explain herself

**gets popcorn**

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**Author:** ![Corcaigh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Corcaigh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Corcaigh)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2012, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-article-a-joke-samantha-brick-im-hated-because-im-beautiful/617852/89 "2012-04-13T21:44:18Z")

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Well fudge! She actually came across as quite nice!

She looked a lot better on telly than she did in the photos, apparently she hadn’t written an article about how gorgeous she is, but about why are women so mean to each other, but the Daily Fail twisted it into something else. She doesn’t have gifts, flowers, things paid for every day of the week, but it has happened.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2012, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-article-a-joke-samantha-brick-im-hated-because-im-beautiful/617852/90 "2012-04-13T22:00:03Z")

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> [@Corcaigh](#):
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> Well fudge! She actually came across as quite nice!
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> She looked a lot better on telly than she did in the photos, apparently she hadn’t written an article about how gorgeous she is, but about why are women so mean to each other, but the Daily Fail twisted it into something else. She doesn’t have gifts, flowers, things paid for every day of the week, but it has happened.

Seriously? she claims the paper re-wrote hew story to twist it into an entirely different one?

Didn’t she supposedly write a reply to all the criticism she was getting and essentially reiterate he claims, and call all the complainers jealous or envious? Did she mention that story? Did she write it?

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**Author:** ![Fuji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a9a28c/32.png) [@Fuji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuji)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2012, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-article-a-joke-samantha-brick-im-hated-because-im-beautiful/617852/91 "2012-04-13T23:48:11Z")

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> [@Corcaigh](#):
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> Well fudge! She actually came across as quite nice!
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> She looked a lot better on telly than she did in the photos, apparently she hadn’t written an article about how gorgeous she is, but about why are women so mean to each other, but the Daily Fail twisted it into something else. She doesn’t have gifts, flowers, things paid for every day of the week, but it has happened.

Hmmm… I saw the same interview and reached the opposite conclusion.

While she did say that the Mail _somewhat_ changed the content of her article (as you say, she claims to have originally written about “why are women so mean to each other”), she also repeatedly stated lines such as “I’m beautiful” and “I’m attractive” and “they’re jealous”, without a hint of irony or self-deprecation. I’m sorry, but gender has nothing to do with this - I think most people would think a guy was a tool if he espoused similar statements in a broad public forum about himself. Ryan did a pretty poor job interviewing her, not once broaching the subject of her perceived arrogance as possibly being the source of the uproar, as opposed to purported jealousy on the part of her detractors. My vote would be “Not a troll - Just a preening, self-deluded narcissist”.

I will say this, though. She does have really nice, sparkling eyes.

For those who wish to check it out, the interview is [here](http://www.rte.ie/player/#!v=1144933). It starts at about the 44:00 mark.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-article-a-joke-samantha-brick-im-hated-because-im-beautiful/617852/92 "2012-04-14T00:20:09Z")

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I agree with Fuji. She barely hinted that the paper might have changed the story, she said she “pitched” it to be about the meanness between women, but the paper wanted something else. She didn’t say anything about whether she re-wrote it, or they did, or that it was re-written at all. Essentially she stood by it.

I agree she looked better on the video than the pin in the news stories… but not a lot better. Maybe more men buy her drinks and stuff because they don’t think she’s out of their league. If she was _really_ beautiful, they wouldn’t even bother.

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**Author:** ![Fuji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a9a28c/32.png) [@Fuji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuji)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-article-a-joke-samantha-brick-im-hated-because-im-beautiful/617852/93 "2012-04-14T00:30:15Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> I agree with Fuji. She barely hinted that the paper might have changed the story, she said she “pitched” it to be about the meanness between women, but the paper wanted something else. She didn’t say anything about whether she re-wrote it, or they did, or that it was re-written at all. Essentially she stood by it.
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> I agree she looked better on the video than the pin in the news stories… but not a lot better. Maybe more men buy her drinks and stuff because they don’t think she’s out of their league. If she was _really_ beautiful, they wouldn’t even bother.

[Off-Topic]Cool! You were actually able to see the video then. I wasn’t sure if it would be viewable outside Ireland. Next time something else interesting pops up on RTE that I’ve seen, I can share the link with you guys.[/OT]

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-article-a-joke-samantha-brick-im-hated-because-im-beautiful/617852/94 "2012-04-14T02:06:02Z")

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Kind of a shame the discovery was made on this particular video.

FYI, my dad was born and raised in County Cork.

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**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-article-a-joke-samantha-brick-im-hated-because-im-beautiful/617852/95 "2012-04-14T02:10:46Z")

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This woman is a master troll. She writes inflammatory articles to spark response. Doesn’t matter if the DM is also trolling, I suspect they are. But she is DEFINITELY a troll. No doubt about it. Now that one of her trolling attempts has actually hit the pay dirt at the end of the troll bridge she is smart enough to polish up her personality to maximize the whirlwind of media attention she it getting. Real talk shows, the Today Show…this is troll GOLD baby. So she is smart enough to know that now is the time to put down the pathetic troll pen and pick up the sword of 15 minutes of fame.

All of that said, I have to totally agree with the point she is making in the video. When beautiful women are given ill treatment in the work place, by other women, that shit is never really dealt with. I see it all the time. I will tell you something about how awful some women can be. If you are overweight (which I am) and not generally seen as a ‘threat’, women will have no problem with you at work; I get along with all the women, from the most beautiful to the homeliest, from top executives to the rookies. But when a beautiful women starts at work, there is always sniping, smart remarks, jealousy, rumors, tension, etc. Plenty of times, I have put people in check who assumed I would be all for hating on the new pretty girl in the office with them. No, sweety…I have absolutely no reason to give some hot mama in the office a hard time. That shit is crazy to me.

I’m not saying all women do this. But it happens. Some women can be super mean.

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**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 9:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-article-a-joke-samantha-brick-im-hated-because-im-beautiful/617852/96 "2012-04-14T09:50:26Z")

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> [@Fuji](#):
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> [Off-Topic]Cool! You were actually able to see the video then. I wasn’t sure if it would be viewable outside Ireland. Next time something else interesting pops up on RTE that I’ve seen, I can share the link with you guys.[/OT]

RTE’s own news and I think most documentaries are typically viewable internationally but most other shows aren’t, and definitely not ones RTE buys in.

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**Author:** ![Corcaigh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Corcaigh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Corcaigh)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 10:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-article-a-joke-samantha-brick-im-hated-because-im-beautiful/617852/97 "2012-04-14T10:28:00Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> Seriously? she claims the paper re-wrote hew story to twist it into an entirely different one?
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> Didn’t she supposedly write a reply to all the criticism she was getting and essentially reiterate he claims, and call all the complainers jealous or envious? Did she mention that story? Did she write it?

I did use the word “apparently” didn’t I?

- _checks_\*

oh yes, I did indeed use the word “apparently”

Now what was your question?

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**Author:** ![Fuji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a9a28c/32.png) [@Fuji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuji)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-article-a-joke-samantha-brick-im-hated-because-im-beautiful/617852/98 "2012-04-14T15:49:27Z")

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> [@An\_Gadai](#):
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> RTE’s own news and I think most documentaries are typically viewable internationally but most other shows aren’t, and definitely not ones RTE buys in.

☹ Thanks for the heads-up.

**Boyo Jim** - County Cork rules! 🆒

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**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-article-a-joke-samantha-brick-im-hated-because-im-beautiful/617852/99 "2012-04-14T15:53:22Z")

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WRT to Co. Cork, let’s agree to disagree.

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**Author:** ![Fuji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a9a28c/32.png) [@Fuji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuji)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2012, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-article-a-joke-samantha-brick-im-hated-because-im-beautiful/617852/100 "2012-04-15T17:33:22Z")

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> [@An\_Gadai](#):
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> WRT to Co. Cork, let’s agree to disagree.

Relative to some of the other places I’ve lived, it sure does. But I didn’t mean to assert the awesomeness of Cork vis-a-vis the other 31 counties. No offense intended.

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