With all due respect, I’m not sure what you mean by that. I explained earlier in the thread that I believe moving to the left for the sake of potential left-turners is going out of your way for other drivers, and is very kind, but not necessary and not rude if you don’t. I also haven’t told anyone who disagreed with me that they shouldn’t be driving.
The post above where you quote Zebra at least gives me some idea of the reason for your opinion, whereas your previous posts did not.
If a mod would like to move this to the pit, feel free- I’d hate to be holding anyone back from speaking their mind. 
I say yes it is exactly the same thing. Get it?
But are there marked crosswalks? You shouldn’t be pulling up into them to make room for cars behind you to turn right, whether or not there are pedestrians actually crossing.
Where I’m driving, you wouldn’t be. There are usually so many people going straight compared to those going right that if everyone got into the middle lane, it would be backed up ridiculously with a relatively empty right lane beside it. YMMV, though.
This is why, when I come to a stop and have a choice of two lanes, and intend to go straight, I will always choose the right lane if there is already a car stopped in the left lane. I am so tired of getting stuck behind cars that end up turning left without a signal, or that put on their signal once the light turns green.
But I generally will move left if there is time and no one ahead. However, I don’t feel obliged to – I don’t think it’s rude not to.
Kinda like, if I see someone signaling to get over in my lane ahead of me, I cut them a little slack and slow just a bit (or maybe just don’t accelerate as fast as I otherwise might) to give them a few feet to spare. Signalling for a lane change seems so unusually courteous to me that I tend to reward it.
Imagine how much faster we could all get where we’re going if we could all actually trust that everyone is signalling, changin lanes and making turns properly and consistently.
It depends on traffic. If the traffic is heavy enough that getting back to the right lane would be problematic, then like as not some other driver will take the right lane as suggested upthread. Also you may well screw up traffic a bit with the two lane changes this requires. OTOH, you’ll probably make better time in the middle lane, as the people who making those right turns tend to cause the right lane to move slower, so you might have to wait more than one cycle at some lights in the right lane, and not in the middle lane.
If the traffic is light, or modorate, then yes, using the middle lane helps not only those folks that are wanting to make right turns on read, but also helps people trying to turn right into traffic from driveways and likesuch.
As for getting back over: The folks that are turning right at the intersection prior to you are creating big holes in the right lane traffic. Provided it is not a grid lock situation, reasonable technique will allow you to change move over no problem.
Please do not take this as an attack against you personally. I say this because I’m trying to seriously ask a question and get a clear answer, not question anyone’s driving ability, moral values, world-view, etc.
So there is no middle ground? Nothing neutral? Nothing in between “nice beyond what is normal” and “rudeness”?
On the issue of “pulling up so someone can pull past you to turn right”:
Where I live, and on many roads in San Jose, the right lane has (unmarked) room for cars to park at the curb, as well as room for the actual cars in that lane. So the lane is really (about) two cars wide. There’s generally no parking for some distance to a stop light/sign, so that room on the right is open near an intersection.
With this structure in mind, its courtesy (not required, and you’re not a jerk if you don’t) to pull as far left as possible at a stop light so that subsequent vehicles behind you can scoot into that area closer to the curb and turn right at the intersection. You (the person at the front of the line) are not in the intersection, and you’re not in the crosswalk, and are entirely in your lane and not blocking anything. And this is not illegal (though perhaps quasi legal, but can’t imagine any cop in the state giving it a second thought).
If you (or the person who wants to turn) have a large vehicle, this obviously isn’t going to work – you both won’t fit. So you both wait and the second guy turns right when the light changes. Its all good.
Another instance of courtesy in this “wide right lane” situation: if you’re turning into a parking lot entrance, turn on your signal, and scoot as close to the curb as possible before making a safe turn into the parking lot. This leaves room for the next vehicle to cautiously scoot past you in the right lane as or before you turn, so traffic isn’t held up while you pull into Safeway.
Obviously, places that don’t have a wide curb lane, or have marked (and occupied) parking all the way to the intersection, won’t have this flexibility. But its hardly an uncommon arrangement.
Forgot to add: if there is a bike lane next to the curb, and you are turning right, at least in California you are required to safely pull into the bike lane before turning into that parking lot. The bike lane is like any other lane, and if you turn right across it, its the same as turning from the center lane and crossing the right lane – illegal. You must pull into the bike lane (yes, I know your vehicle doesn’t fit, I didn’t write this rule) before turning. cite.
Etiquette is defined as courtesy.
Lack of courtesy = rudeness INMHO
There certainly is a middle ground. There are plenty of variables.
Maybe the traffic is a gridlock and it is pointless to move one lane left and get out of the way of people wanting to turn right. That I can understand.
It was never my intention to pick on people personally .
My first couple posts were trying to get a poster from arguing apples and oranges and to re-read the OP.
I’ll tell ya what,
I live way out in the sticks now, ten miles from the nearest store. I put more miles on my golfcart than I do on my Pickup
truck.(Thank og) It seems even talking about traffic grief gets me all sideways. I know when I used to commute 75 miles each way i was a wreck.
This thread may be a good example of why road rage is such an epidemic these days? maybe I am just a dickhead.(Been called worser names)
I sincerely apologize to any and all I insulted in this thread.
Life is way too short and there are way better things to argue about,
I am outta here,
Peace and Bacon grease
I don’t believe you can be ticketed for not turning right on red here in the States. At least not here in Illinois. The right turn is allowed, not required. You can sit there through the whole light if you choose. (Legally, although you’ll hear about it from the people behind you.)
I don’t think it’s rude to stay in the right lane, in traffic, if you have a right turn coming up. I’d be more concerned about making two lane changes. It’s not likely that you’ll really be holding up too many people anyway. What are the odds that you’ll be the only one going straight at every intersection, or the first in the line every time?
As for above-and-beyond courtesy equating with rudeness, no. I’m not being rude by keeping my place in line at the grocery store. It might be extra courteous of me to let the guy behind me who only has one item go ahead of me, but I’m not obligated to. Nor is it rude if I don’t. Same deal here.
I’d be upset if you could be ticketed for not turning right on red here, because the whole thing is a judgment call. There are a few intersections near us where I’d never turn right on red, legal or not, because it’s just not safe (blind turns on either side, oncoming traffic driving like bats out of hell). So, then, the officer decides whether that intersection is sufficiently safe that waiting for green is a ticketable offense? It would be chaos and not easily enforceable.
Say what? You would flunk for not turning even if you are going straight? Now that’s a weird rule.
Well, I started with five blocks…is it that hard to figure out?
There’s the right lane the OP is driving in, and the middle lane which one might theoretically change lanes into. Thus two lanes. Are you being deliberately dense?
Actually, it sounds like people like you should ride the bus, since you obviously get so bent out of shape about such minor situations when driving.
The only time I get pissed is when there is two or more lanes going my direction, all are clear, except for you who are ahead of me, the light ahead changes to red, I have had my right turn signal on before that happens and you move to the right lane I am already in from a clear ‘other’ lane and block me from a ‘right on red’.
I am big, ugly, have a mean looking truck and I have a cc permit, a ball bat, and can get out of my truck quick.
I can learn you common courtesy for “just me” real quick.
Never had a person do it to me twice.
YMMV
I agree with taterbug3918. Most intersections where I live will have a short right-turn lane at the intersection for people who want to turn right. If there isn’t one, then people should just wait for the light to turn green and for through-traffic to move ahead. There’s nothing wrong or rude about staying in the right-hand lane if it is intended for through-traffic, and I wouldn’t move over left if I didn’t need to. Wee Bairn, you drive in the right lane all you want to. I’m one person who wouldn’t get pissed off if I were behind you.
I don’t see the rudeness at all. Not only will I drive in the right hand lane if I feel like it, I’ll even switch to that lane if it makes MY trip shorter, without the slightest regard to the effect on whoever is behind me. What I mean is, if I’m going straight and there are two cars going straight in the left and center lanes stopped at the light, but no car in the right hand “turn or go straight, your choice” lane, I’l pull into that lane to wait out the light. Why? Because then I’m one car length closer to my destination and I’m not stuck behind either of those two cars after the light turns green if they are not going fast enough to suit me.
The only time I feel even the most marginal obligation to keep the right lane clear in those circumstances is if one of the other two lanes is completely empty. AND if traffic is light enough that I don’t worry that if I give up my spot in the right hand lane, I won’t get it back. If as the OP says he is concerned that moving left will mean he cannot move back right and therefore may miss his turn, he is fully within his rights, and not in the least rude, to just stay in the lane he wants and needs to be in.
It is not rudeness to refuse to inconvenience yourself.
I tend to agree with the folks who said you are “pretty much” free to use any lane you wish, but why not choose one that you know will offer a minor convenience to other drivers.
This is a route you take all the time, you are familiar with how other prople use it, and you are intimately aware with when you are going to want to exit. Even if only once every week or so sliding over 1 lane allows another driver a minimally more pleasant (or less unpleasant) commute, I see that as a no-brainer. Costs you absolutely nothing other than 2 shoulder checks, 2 flicks of the turn signals, and 2 adjustments of the steering wheel.
However, as the OP has indicated that they are uncomfortable driving in the center lane, I suspect all drivers would be best off if she drove where she was most comfortable. (20 years driving and afraid of the center lane? 
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I didn’t mention going straight. You’d flunk (or at least cop a hefty demerit hit) if you were turning.