# Is this bogus? Nostradomus prediction

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-bogus-nostradomus-prediction/46629>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [December 21, 2000, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-bogus-nostradomus-prediction/46629 "2000-12-21T01:28:21Z")\
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**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2000, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-bogus-nostradomus-prediction/46629/1 "2000-12-21T01:28:21Z")

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Someone posted this elsewhere on the web:

In 1555, Nostradamus wrote:

“Come the millennium, month 12,  
In the home of greatest power,  
The village idiot will come forth  
To be acclaimed the leader.”  
I’m pretty dang suspicious that this was made up.

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**Author:** ![beagledave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6de8d8/32.png) [@beagledave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beagledave)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2000, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-bogus-nostradomus-prediction/46629/2 "2000-12-21T01:32:23Z")

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[http://www.snopes2.com/inboxer/stooopid/nostra.htm](http://www.snopes2.com/inboxer/stooopid/nostra.htm)

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**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2000, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-bogus-nostradomus-prediction/46629/3 "2000-12-21T01:36:54Z")

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Thanks. That is what my instincts told me 🙂

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**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2000, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-bogus-nostradomus-prediction/46629/4 "2000-12-21T01:56:20Z")

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Opal, Opal, Opal…There are almost no circumstances under which the words “Nostradamus prediction” need by prefaced by the question “Is this bogus?” It’s like pairing “Is this wet?” with “Pacific Ocean”, or [“Is this made of rocks?” followed by “Stonehenge”](http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a1_051.html).

Duj tIvoqtaH

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**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2000, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-bogus-nostradomus-prediction/46629/5 "2000-12-21T04:32:54Z")

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From [this site](http://www.dreamscape.com/morgana/election.htm):

> [@](#):
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> \*\*The Idiot Heir
> 
> Just after the 2000 US Presidential Election, the Internet was abuzz with rumors that Nostradamus had written a quatrain that could relate to the event. Without personal comment, I offer the quatrain first in French, followed by English translations in response to the many requests received. Incidentally, I’ve yet to find the quatrain as posted in the original e-mail that has been forwarded.\*\*

The French:

> [@](#):
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> \*\*Century 1, Quatrain 78
> 
> D’un chef vieillard naistre sens hebeté  
> Degenerant par sçauoir & par armes,  
> Le chef de France par sa soeur redouté,  
> Champs diuisez, concedez aux gens gendarmes.\*\*

One English translation:

> [@](#):
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> **To an old leader will be born an idiot heir,  
> Weak both in knowledge and in war.  
> The leader of France is feared by his sister,  
> Battlefields divided, conceded to the soldiers.**

Close, but no cigar.

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**Author:** ![Montfort](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Montfort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Montfort)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2000, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-bogus-nostradomus-prediction/46629/6 "2000-12-21T04:36:12Z")

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Of course it’s bogus. It’s true, after all. 😛

::d&r::
