# Is this cover of Vogue promoting violence towards women? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [September 23, 2012, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-cover-of-vogue-promoting-violence-towards-women/635577 "2012-09-23T06:07:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2012, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-cover-of-vogue-promoting-violence-towards-women/635577/41 "2012-09-25T21:08:08Z")
> [@Kenm](#): > > Super sleuth here. So _that’s_ what goes on in France. No one there thinks of les enfants, obviously. Oh, _France_. Hell, there that’s practically a Sears family portrait. ---
**Author:** ![Chessic\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7c8e57/32.png) [@Chessic\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chessic_Sense)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2012, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-cover-of-vogue-promoting-violence-towards-women/635577/42 "2012-09-25T22:13:17Z")
Even if he actually _was_ choking her, and she clearly didn’t like it, it wouldn’t necessarily be promoting violence towards women. Why is it that people think everything a commercial enterprise says, depicts, or makes is “promoting” that thing? Is National Geographic promoting starvation when they show a starving African? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2012, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-cover-of-vogue-promoting-violence-towards-women/635577/43 "2012-09-25T22:49:49Z")
Pop culture Luddite here. Man, Stephanie Seymour still looks amazing. ---
**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2012, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-cover-of-vogue-promoting-violence-towards-women/635577/44 "2012-09-25T23:28:40Z")
Starving African here. Will somebody promote me some food sometime soon? My last Nat Geo photo shoot still hasn’t sent me a check. ---
**Author:** ![Poysyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Poysyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Poysyn)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2012, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-cover-of-vogue-promoting-violence-towards-women/635577/45 "2012-09-25T23:58:38Z")
I like it and think it’s hot. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2012, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-cover-of-vogue-promoting-violence-towards-women/635577/46 "2012-09-26T00:01:02Z")
> [@Chessic\_Sense](#): > > Even if he actually _was_ choking her, and she clearly didn’t like it, it wouldn’t necessarily be promoting violence towards women. Why is it that people think everything a commercial enterprise says, depicts, or makes is “promoting” that thing? Is National Geographic promoting starvation when they show a starving African? Well, maybe. If the caption is “The Hottest New Looks For Fall”… ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2012, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-cover-of-vogue-promoting-violence-towards-women/635577/47 "2012-09-26T00:03:11Z")
> [@Chessic\_Sense](#): > > Why is it that people think everything a commercial enterprise says, depicts, or makes is “promoting” that thing? To be fair, it’s pretty reasonable to assume that if a fashion magazine shows Stephanie Seymour with tousled hair and an unbuttoned blouse doing something on their front cover, they’re expecting their readers will approve that message. ---
**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2012, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-cover-of-vogue-promoting-violence-towards-women/635577/48 "2012-09-26T14:14:42Z")
What’s that on her right sleeve? Did they stick a table napkin in there? Her right sleeve appears to have a cuff (or maybe it’s rolled up a little), but the other sleeve doesn’t have one. ---
**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2012, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-cover-of-vogue-promoting-violence-towards-women/635577/49 "2012-09-26T14:31:35Z")
> [@Chessic\_Sense](#): > > Even if he actually _was_ choking her, and she clearly didn’t like it, it wouldn’t necessarily be promoting violence towards women. Why is it that people think everything a commercial enterprise says, depicts, or makes is “promoting” that thing? Is National Geographic promoting starvation when they show a starving African? If they were showing an incredibly gorgeous person starving while being fondled in a manner that makes the photo sexually exciting to some people, then, yes. Advertisers have been attaching sex to various products and ideas they want to promote for centuries, and it works really, really well. Mind you, I’m not arguing that’s true for this cover. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2012, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-cover-of-vogue-promoting-violence-towards-women/635577/50 "2012-09-26T15:17:45Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Pop culture Luddite here. Man, Stephanie Seymour still looks amazing. 1. And has had 4 children. ---
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2012, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-cover-of-vogue-promoting-violence-towards-women/635577/51 "2012-09-26T22:40:27Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > 1. And has had 4 children. Now THAT’S promoting violence towards women. Or a woman. I’ll get the rope, you find the tree… 😉 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-cover-of-vogue-promoting-violence-towards-women/635577.md?page=2)