# Is this design story an urban legend? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [December 12, 2003, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-design-story-an-urban-legend/218468 "2003-12-12T00:19:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Khadaji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Khadaji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khadaji)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2003, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-design-story-an-urban-legend/218468/1 "2003-12-12T00:19:35Z")
When I was in college a professor was trying to impart the importance good user design. He told a story about an architect who would build a facility, but put no sidewalks in. He would just plant grass. Then, after a year had passed, he would come back and put sidewalks where all of the paths were made in the grass, because this would be where the users were walking. It is an interesting story, but I wonder if it is true. Has anyone else heard it and do can you tell me the origin? ---
**Author:** ![Podkayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Podkayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Podkayne)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2003, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-design-story-an-urban-legend/218468/2 "2003-12-12T00:33:29Z")
It may stem from a true story, but it had definitely acheived urban legend status. I’ve heard it told about the quads at two different colleges. ---
**Author:** ![Alias](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a88e4f/32.png) [@Alias](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alias)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2003, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-design-story-an-urban-legend/218468/3 "2003-12-12T00:50:15Z")
Well if it isn’t a true story, it’s a shame. It definitely sounds like a good idea. I remember my mother telling me that about the University of Michigan campus. ---
**Author:** ![Markxxx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5daacb/32.png) [@Markxxx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Markxxx)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2003, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-design-story-an-urban-legend/218468/4 "2003-12-12T01:12:53Z")
At my college we had a twist on this. We had sidewalks already. But most people walked on the grass creating dirt paths. So in my 2nd year the college put in a sidewalk over the paths. Not all of them but quite a few. ---
**Author:** ![Sofa\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/58956e/32.png) [@Sofa\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sofa_King)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2003, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-design-story-an-urban-legend/218468/5 "2003-12-12T01:31:30Z")
At my college they kept placing sidewalks where there were paths, and every year there would be a new path cut through the grass. Eventually, the entire drill field was concrete, and empty. Finally, one designer had a bright idea, and pulled up all the sidewalk and replaced it with sod. Soon enough, people were using the drill field again. The reason was simple: no Virginia Tech Hokie wants to scrape his knuckles on concrete. ---
**Author:** ![\_just\_a\_rude\_mechanical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/_/977dab/32.png) [@\_just\_a\_rude\_mechanical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/_just_a_rude_mechanical)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2003, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-design-story-an-urban-legend/218468/6 "2003-12-12T02:04:44Z")
They say most of the roads in every town everywhere were originally cow paths and animal paths. As people and wagons arrive on the scene they follow the path of least resistance and just widen the ruts. Then then towns appear along the roads and it looks like the roads went between the towns. ---
**Author:** ![MelCthefirst](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eada6e/32.png) [@MelCthefirst](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MelCthefirst)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2003, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-design-story-an-urban-legend/218468/7 "2003-12-12T02:47:19Z")
I think the Romans would object to this last comment - they were planned roads weren’t they, not just following an old cow path. ---
**Author:** ![adirondack\_mike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b5a626/32.png) [@adirondack\_mike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adirondack_mike)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2003, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-design-story-an-urban-legend/218468/8 "2003-12-12T03:21:17Z")
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**Author:** ![adirondack\_mike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b5a626/32.png) [@adirondack\_mike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adirondack_mike)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2003, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-design-story-an-urban-legend/218468/9 "2003-12-12T03:26:08Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by adirondack\_mike \* > \*\*this is on my [wish list](http://http://www.amazon.com/o/ASIN/0195019199/104-4334585-8575135?%5Fencoding=UTF8&coliid=I24HEAL8MCZ9RE&colid=14OHK76UCTHEQ) 🙂 \*\* Doh! [here](http://www.amazon.com/o/ASIN/0195019199/104-4334585-8575135?%5Fencoding=UTF8&coliid=I24HEAL8MCZ9RE&colid=14OHK76UCTHEQ) ---
**Author:** ![Gairloch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/d2c977/32.png) [@Gairloch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gairloch)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2003, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-design-story-an-urban-legend/218468/10 "2003-12-12T04:24:01Z")
Any Architect who waited to see where people actually walked, instead of telling them where to walk by his design, simply didn’t pay attention in Arrogant Ego 101. Gairloch ---
**Author:** ![hammerbach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/73ab20/32.png) [@hammerbach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hammerbach)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2003, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-design-story-an-urban-legend/218468/11 "2003-12-12T05:48:40Z")
When I was a boy, my friends and I used to ride our dirt bikes in an unoccupied section of town. If you go there now, you will find a large housing development, and the roads in it paved exactly on the template our bikes made.