# Is this Esprix guy the defender of the gay universe? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 19, 2002, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-esprix-guy-the-defender-of-the-gay-universe/114816 "2002-06-19T06:22:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Phlip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Phlip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phlip)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2002, 10:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-esprix-guy-the-defender-of-the-gay-universe/114816/21 "2002-06-19T10:56:35Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by reprise \* > \*\*You used the word “gay” twice as a negative in relation to the OP; another poster put **Esprix** ’s name in their post so the thread would show in a vanity search in th hope that either **Esprix** or another gay poster would challenge your use of the word in that context. > > I don’t know of any dictionary which defines “gay” as “petty, trivial, pathetic” or any other such characteristic implied by your use of it on your post, so you can’t even claim legitimate usage of the word. You chose to use it as a negative adjective in a context which is ONLY used by people who seek to imply that “gay” itself is somehow negative. > > Would you have called a rant “black” or “Jewish”? Didn’t think so. > > If that’s your best example of **Esprix** hijacking a thread to proclaim his sexuality, you might want to be more careful about the way in which use use the word “gay” in future. \*\* Are you gay? Just curious because you sound like you are taking that pretty seriously. If somehow you molded what I said into some sort of gay bashing then you have a screw loose. ANYONE who read that knew exactly what I was saying. If you didnt then you are one dumb son of a bitch. The word gay has been around WAY longer than it has been used synonomously with homosexual. What does a dictionary have to do with anything anyway? Just because every slang use of a word is not defined in a dictionary means that you can’t use the word that way? So since dictionaries don’t list “friend” as a possible definition of the word “dog” does that mean that I cant call my friend “my dog”? Does that mean that dog DOESNT mean friend? Everyone knows that when you call someone your dog you arent calling them a fucking canine. And WTF is a vanity search? You mean to tell me that people actually search the boards to see if people are talking about them? And someone expected him to do this? Guess he really DOES search the board looking for shit to stir. This is not about my view point on gays either so dont take it there. I couldn’t care less about what people do with themselves. My fucking brother is gay and I went to his “gay wedding” as his best man, so don’t try to fuck me around with that bullshit. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2002, 11:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-esprix-guy-the-defender-of-the-gay-universe/114816/22 "2002-06-19T11:02:55Z")
“We are gay, and happy that way, 'Cause gay means happy and happy means gay…” I think **Phlip** needs a trip on Big Gay Al’s Big Gay Boatride… ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2002, 11:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-esprix-guy-the-defender-of-the-gay-universe/114816/23 "2002-06-19T11:04:32Z")
P.S. Wouldn’t it be hilarious if **Esprix** _didn’t_ reply to this thread? ---
**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2002, 11:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-esprix-guy-the-defender-of-the-gay-universe/114816/24 "2002-06-19T11:08:39Z")
> [@](#): > > Somehow he sniffs out threads that do not have subjects that even hint at having a homosexual theme and unleashes his lessons on the pitiful poster who said basketweaving is gay. Ah, so you’ve discovered the true power of correctly-applied Gaydar… straight people who possess it only witness a fraction of its ability! ---
**Author:** ![Hemlock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Hemlock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hemlock)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2002, 11:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-esprix-guy-the-defender-of-the-gay-universe/114816/25 "2002-06-19T11:18:56Z")
I’ve learnt a heck of a lot from the Ask the Gay Guy threads. **Esprix** did once chew me up for telling a friend that the girl he fancied was actually a guy. He’s a bit high up my self-righteousness scale for that, but not unusually so by SDMB standards. What I want to know is - how do you pronounce it? I guess “espree”. A Google search reveals the word to be shared equally among a German hotel chain, a Swiss award for business excellence and an extremely prolific poster to message boards. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2002, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-esprix-guy-the-defender-of-the-gay-universe/114816/26 "2002-06-19T11:33:15Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by reprise \* > **I don’t know of any dictionary which defines “gay” as “petty, trivial, pathetic” or any other such characteristic implied by your use of it on your post, so you can’t even claim legitimate usage of the word. You chose to use it as a negative adjective in a context which is ONLY used by people who seek to imply that “gay” itself is somehow negative.** A quibble: Dictionaries are descriptive of language as it evolves, and thus are always a few years behind the actual language. I’ve heard the meaning “gay” as trivial and/or pathetic, but I put it in the same category as the phrase “Jew you down”: it’s a legitmate grammatical useage. But only assholes use it that way. Fenris ---
**Author:** ![reprise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ea666f/32.png) [@reprise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/reprise)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2002, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-esprix-guy-the-defender-of-the-gay-universe/114816/27 "2002-06-19T11:52:24Z")
Does anyone else think that the OP might have eaten one too many purple oysters? BTW, the only appropriate method of transport for _Esprixman_, would be the IPU (MHHNBS) **jayjay**. ---
**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2002, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-esprix-guy-the-defender-of-the-gay-universe/114816/28 "2002-06-19T11:59:29Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Phlip \* > Are you gay? Just curious because you sound like you are taking that pretty seriously. Yes, because that’s the only reason anyone would have to take perjorative use of a word seriously:rolleyes: > [@](#): > > ANYONE who read that knew exactly what I was saying. The mindreading force is strong in this one… > [@](#): > > If you didnt then you are one dumb son of a bitch. The word gay has been around WAY longer than it has been used synonomously with homosexual. Doesn’t matter. You’re an asshole. > [@](#): > > So since dictionaries don’t list “friend” as a possible definition of the word “dog” does that mean that I cant call my friend “my dog”? Does that mean that dog DOESNT mean friend? Everyone knows that when you call someone your dog you arent calling them a fucking canine. Certainly your friend would have no objection. But to use a word that, at least here, carries no negative connotation, in a negative way, not only is inappropriate but assholish. There was a guy on here (still a member, FWIW) who was in a pit thread once flinging insults and being insulted back. His response to one such insult: “That’s the best you can do? You are SO gay.” That got him in a little tiff with a few people who were less than enthused by his use of the word. You might want to rethink this opinion of yours that your view of how things work is ipso facto how they work. None of us is all-knowing on here. > [@](#): > > And WTF is a vanity search? You mean to tell me that people actually search the boards to see if people are talking about them? And someone expected him to do this? Guess he really DOES search the board looking for shit to stir. A vanitysearch is when someone does a search for their name in a thread. It’s useful so you don’t have to go through every thread that’s been updated or started since you last checked the boards. Quite a few people do them because they’re fairly useful. And if you don’t have a point to make, don’t fucking post like you have the reparté stylings of the next incarnation of … well, anyone with a brain. You have been weighed, you have been measured, and you have been found wanting. In what world could you be intelligent?[sup]\*[/sup] > [@](#): > > My fucking brother is gay and I went to his “gay wedding” as his best man, so don’t try to fuck me around with that bullshit. Ooh yay, the best friend argument. Does your brother know you use gay in a perjorative manner? Do you think he’d be thrilled about that? And just as another example: another poster, in GD, once described something former president Clinton did as “very male”. That got her a nice pit thread because the use was perjorative. An otherwise-sane (we think;)) poster who used a word normally descriptive in a mean way. Exactly what you did. [sup]\*[/sup]From a movie, mostly. ---
**Author:** ![Phlip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Phlip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phlip)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2002, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-esprix-guy-the-defender-of-the-gay-universe/114816/29 "2002-06-19T12:11:49Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by iampunha \* > Yes, because that’s the only reason anyone would have to take perjorative use of a word seriously:rolleyes: Wowie watch me nitpick a thread to death. > [@](#): > > The mindreading force is strong in this one… You see me single that line out? That was sweet. Watch me do the next one. > [@](#): > > Doesn’t matter. You’re an asshole. How’d you like that!! Take THAT iampuhna. Here, Ill do a whole section now. > [@](#): > > Certainly your friend would have no objection. But to use a word that, at least here, carries no negative connotation, in a negative way, not only is inappropriate but assholish. > > There was a guy on here (still a member, FWIW) who was in a pit thread once flinging insults and being insulted back. His response to one such insult: > > “That’s the best you can do? You are SO gay.” > > That got him in a little tiff with a few people who were less than enthused by his use of the word. WHOA!! Thats a BIG quote. Lots of stuff to read in that one!! > [@](#): > > You might want to rethink this opinion of yours that your view of how things work is ipso facto how they work. None of us is all-knowing on here. Just wanted to piece that one out to keep things looking uniform. > [@](#): > > A vanitysearch is when someone does a search for their name in a thread. It’s useful so you don’t have to go through every thread that’s been updated or started since you last checked the boards. Quite a few people do them because they’re fairly useful. They are vain. That is why they are called vanity search. > [@](#): > > And if you don’t have a point to make, don’t fucking post like you have the reparté stylings of the next incarnation of … well, anyone with a brain. I think I was pointing out how Esprix, who hasnt even been here yet, shows up in all things gay WAIT WAIT WAIT… I mean homosexual. > [@](#): > > Ooh yay, the best friend argument. Does your brother know you use gay in a perjorative manner? Do you think he’d be thrilled about that? Yes. He knows. But hes not an uptight super holy jackass like you. > [@](#): > > And just as another example: another poster, in GD, once described something former president Clinton did as “very male”. That got her a nice pit thread because the use was perjorative. An otherwise-sane (we think;)) poster who used a word normally descriptive in a mean way. Exactly what you did. That sounds just as lame as this crap that you are trying to tie me down with right now. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2002, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-esprix-guy-the-defender-of-the-gay-universe/114816/30 "2002-06-19T12:18:26Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Crusoe \* > \*\ ***Esprix** is gay? \*\* No, the universe is gay - didn’t you read the thread title? ---
**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2002, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-esprix-guy-the-defender-of-the-gay-universe/114816/31 "2002-06-19T12:22:27Z")
Man, what a waste fo post 4K, **Mangetout** 😉 [sub]Look at me! I can ignore the points made by another poster! Woohoo! Who do I remind you of? A) FORMERAGENT B) JohnJohn C) Phlip[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2002, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-esprix-guy-the-defender-of-the-gay-universe/114816/32 "2002-06-19T12:55:31Z")
Oh, please. I show up to every gay thread I can find, and every Canadian thread, and metro thread, and Esperanto thread, &c. And do I get a pit thread? No. I’m _so_ insulted. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2002, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-esprix-guy-the-defender-of-the-gay-universe/114816/33 "2002-06-19T12:57:01Z")
Some people look at the OP and think “He’s an asshole”. _I_ look at the OP and _know_ “He’s an asshole” To **Phlip** A) You spell your name wrong. You’re missing an “I” B) You’re also missing a brain C) You smell bad D) You’re ugly E) You’re hot for **Esprix** , aren’t you? I mean, you think he’s hot and you’re upset that he has such high standards that he wouldn’t be interested in a skank like you. That makes you…bitter. F) No-one likes you. Even your dog doesn’t like you, it tolerates you 'cause you feed it. But it resents having to be in your presence. G) You’ve got a bad haircut. H) You’re tortured syntax is so bad that you have, singlehandedly, caused George Bernard Shaw to be know as “Whirligig Bernie” to his graveyard neighbors. I) You’re an annoying little-toad J) You like typing “cock”. I count at least a half-dozen appearances of the word in your several extrusions. You secretly long for cock. It’s all right. You can tell us. K) Hmm…“J” made me wonder if your resentment of **Esprix** isn’t because he’s a better writer than you and someone who showers better personal hygine than you, but rather because he’s out of the closet and FREE, while you’re still hiding your true feelings! M) PUNHA, MY PAL! Hi Opal! / Fuck Zette! (depending) N) So, is your name supposed to be pronounced “Flip” as in “I flip you off, you asshole” or is it a misspelling of “Philip”? O) The comma is your _friend_. Treasure it and learn of it’s myriad uses. P) I’m sorry. Your current submissions do not currently meet this Boards needs. Should we need the imbicilic droolings of a trollish lout, we’ll know where to find you. Q) is for “Queer” and “Queen” and other words that despite Phlip’s mythical “best frien…\< cough \> …brother” make Phlip have uncomfortable feelings. R) If pine needles were brains, you’d _still_ be too dumb to understand this analogy. S) is for Shit, which Phlip _also_ seems to like a _lot_. Coprophiliac Closet Queer! Band name! T) Your opinions are less welcome than a used diaper at the dinner table. And speaking of used diapers and your opinions… U) is for the many useless opinions you hold! V) is for Victory! “We will fight the morons on the beaches, we will fight them in the Pit, we will fight them in GD” W) So, is this the beginning of a melt-down? X) An interchange: Phlp: “Fenris, if you were my husband, I’d poison you” / Fenris: "Phlip, if you were my wife, _I’d drink it_! Y) (and as long as I’m swiping insults): Philp: “Fenris, within the year, you will be dead of the gallows or the pox” / Fenris: “Plilp, that depends on whether I embrace your principles or your penis. And as small as it must be, I’d need a jewler’s loupe and tweezers” Z) You are less charming than a diseased yak turd. Fenris Yes, there is No L. It’s not Christmastime, after all! \< rimshot \> (not rimjob, which is a whole other thing) ---
**Author:** ![minty\_green](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@minty\_green](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/minty_green)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2002, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-esprix-guy-the-defender-of-the-gay-universe/114816/34 "2002-06-19T13:10:41Z")
You need a cape, **matt**. ---
**Author:** ![Bad\_News\_Baboon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5fc32e/32.png) [@Bad\_News\_Baboon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bad_News_Baboon)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2002, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-esprix-guy-the-defender-of-the-gay-universe/114816/35 "2002-06-19T13:11:48Z")
all this is so stupid. who cares already? what _does_ matter is this: > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Hemlock \* > \*\* > What I want to know is - how do you pronounce it? I guess “espree”. A Google search reveals the word to be shared equally among a German hotel chain, a Swiss award for business excellence and an extremely prolific poster to message boards. \*\* yeah dammit! despit all the French classes I have taken, I have this compulsion to say it: es-prix. to rhyme (kinda) with Twix. damn you French People and your x’s! ---
**Author:** ![Phlip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Phlip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phlip)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2002, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-esprix-guy-the-defender-of-the-gay-universe/114816/36 "2002-06-19T13:33:46Z")
And the Straightdope Clique begins its decent on its target… BTW, I am guessing that jayjay must be gay because that could be the only reason that no one has gotten away with using “faggots” in place of homosexual right? Oh wait, hes one of the clique too, I see. Carry on. ---
**Author:** ![minty\_green](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@minty\_green](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/minty_green)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2002, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-esprix-guy-the-defender-of-the-gay-universe/114816/37 "2002-06-19T13:38:43Z")
Am I in the Clique[sup]TM[/sup] now? Yay! Who’s got pretzels? ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2002, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-esprix-guy-the-defender-of-the-gay-universe/114816/38 "2002-06-19T13:41:42Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Phlip \* > \*\*And the Straightdope Clique begins its decent on its target… > \*\* Ok. It’s used the “Some of my best friends are…” excuse. It’s used the “It’s not that I said something stupid and offensive, it’s that there’s a clique!” excuse I’m taking bets for it’s next rejoinder. Will it be: A) The **Appeal to Invisible Authority**? (“I have hundreds of secret e-mails of people who agree with me! No. You can’t see 'em.”) 5:1 odds B) The **All Mods are Nazis** excuse? 6:1 odds C) The **Sociological experiment** excuse? (“U all were part of my vast experiment in sociology. Thanks for participating–foolz!”) 4:1 odds D) The **I Wuz Just Joking** excuse? (“You people have no sense of humor. You can’t tell a joke when you hear one!”) 2:1 odds or E) **Meltdown** followed by **Suicide via Mod** 1:1 odds, given that it’s all ready in progress. If anyone has other theories, I’ll be glad to give odds on them. Nicely-Nicely Fenris ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2002, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-esprix-guy-the-defender-of-the-gay-universe/114816/39 "2002-06-19T13:44:08Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by minty green \* > \*\*Am I in the Clique[sup]TM[/sup] now? Yay! Who’s got pretzels? \*\* \< haughtily \> You are only an initiate. Until you go through the dreaded Ceremony of the Sperm Trees and learn the Third Word that Ends in GRY, no pretzels for YOU. As an initiate, you are only allowed slightly stale Cheez-Doodles! Pretzels are reserved for the elite in the Clique. (Or so I hear… ☹ ) \< /haughtily \> ---
**Author:** ![scott\_evil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/91b2a8/32.png) [@scott\_evil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scott_evil)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2002, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-esprix-guy-the-defender-of-the-gay-universe/114816/40 "2002-06-19T13:47:38Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by matt\_mcl \* > \*\*And do I get a pit thread? No. I’m _so_ insulted. \*\* I’d be more than happy to start one, dear. 😉 - s.e. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-esprix-guy-the-defender-of-the-gay-universe/114816.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-esprix-guy-the-defender-of-the-gay-universe/114816.md?page=3)