# Is this Esprix guy the defender of the gay universe? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 19, 2002, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-esprix-guy-the-defender-of-the-gay-universe/114816 "2002-06-19T06:22:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![The\_Ace\_of\_Swords](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e495f1/32.png) [@The\_Ace\_of\_Swords](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Ace_of_Swords)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2002, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-esprix-guy-the-defender-of-the-gay-universe/114816/41 "2002-06-19T13:49:30Z")
😃 I love it when they use gay as an insult. Phil lip, I didn’t know you cared. I’ll teach you all about gay life, and how to become a slut in 12 easy steps, if only you weren’t such an _ass_, honey! Big Wet Smacks, 😉 Spree ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2002, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-esprix-guy-the-defender-of-the-gay-universe/114816/42 "2002-06-19T13:49:31Z")
The following phrases, all mentioned in this thread, would make excellent names for rock bands: \*\*Gay Or Cock Related Vaseline Please Suicide Via Moderator Appeal To Invisible Authority Hot For Esprix The Pine Needles The Super Holy Jackasses Supershowtune The Velvet Capes\*\* ---
**Author:** ![Phlip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Phlip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phlip)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2002, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-esprix-guy-the-defender-of-the-gay-universe/114816/43 "2002-06-19T13:52:32Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Phlip \* > \*\* > BTW, I am guessing that jayjay must be gay because that could be the only reason that no one has gotten away with using “faggots” in place of homosexual right? Oh wait, hes one of the clique too, I see. > > Carry on. \*\* Hey Fenris, why don’t you stop acting like an ass and answer my question? Because you can’t. There is no answer fucknuts. He called homosexuals FAGGOTS. Holy shit!! Get the fucking PC crew in here to tear him a new asshole! Oh, nevermind. He’s gay. It’s ok then. What an awsome double standard. How gay. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2002, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-esprix-guy-the-defender-of-the-gay-universe/114816/44 "2002-06-19T14:04:30Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Phlip \* > \*\*BTW, I am guessing that jayjay must be gay because that could be the only reason that no one has gotten away with using “faggots” in place of homosexual right? Oh wait, hes one of the clique too, I see. \*\* Good point. **jayjay** : on behalf of the Federal Association of Bundles of Sticks (FABS) and our UK branch the Chopped Liver Alliance Party (CLAP), I demand a formal apology. ---
**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2002, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-esprix-guy-the-defender-of-the-gay-universe/114816/45 "2002-06-19T14:06:16Z")
Phlip, if you want to live to see post 500, you might want to knock this shit off. No, really. No, really. No, really. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2002, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-esprix-guy-the-defender-of-the-gay-universe/114816/46 "2002-06-19T14:09:37Z")
You’ve got a little something on your boot, there. ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2002, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-esprix-guy-the-defender-of-the-gay-universe/114816/47 "2002-06-19T14:09:47Z")
**Matt** , _I_ got a Pit thread, neener neener neener! > [@](#): > > But god almighty it seems like his sole purpose in life is to fend off any negative vibes towards being gay or something. And it sounds like an excellent purpose, if you ask me. I enjoy **Esprix** ’s coverage of gay issues, and I know that his witty and informative posts have enlightened many hetero posters on homosexuality-related issues. Curing ignorance is this board’s _raison d’etre_, after all. Now **Phlip** , are you going to pit **Collounsbury** for posting primarily in Middle East politics threads? Are you going to tackle **Matt** for posting in Quebec threads? Why are you so eager to pursue **Esprix** for the _thrust_ of his \*penetrating \* wit? > [@](#): > > Because you can’t. There is no answer fucknuts. He called homosexuals FAGGOTS. Holy shit!! Get the fucking PC crew in here to tear him a new asshole! > > Oh, nevermind. He’s gay. It’s ok then. See, **Phlip** dear, **JayJay** was using the word “faggot” in a sardonic manner to convey a sarcastic shade of meaning to the word; in other words he was employing verbal irony. But to you, I fear, “irony” is just something you do to clothes. ---
**Author:** ![scott\_evil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/91b2a8/32.png) [@scott\_evil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scott_evil)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2002, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-esprix-guy-the-defender-of-the-gay-universe/114816/48 "2002-06-19T14:11:56Z")
Umm… I jump into “gay” threads too. Actually, more often than not, I’ll post something that happens to do with the fact that I’m gay, and it turns into some grim safe-sex warning, which in turn spawns a Pit thread, and so on, and so on. :rolleyes: However, you’ll also find me answering questions about digital video (my field of work), music theory (degree in music), and whatever else I know about. And I also _start_ many threads, including the weekly Mole II threads. - s.e. ---
**Author:** ![Why\_A\_Duck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/13edae/32.png) [@Why\_A\_Duck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Why_A_Duck)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2002, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-esprix-guy-the-defender-of-the-gay-universe/114816/49 "2002-06-19T14:14:20Z")
**jayjay** is gay? Well knock me over with a feather. But wait, this is perfect. **Esprix** needs a bear-wonder, a sidekick to help him with his cape. Now we need a faithful butler. Someone to maintain the Sprix-mobile, wax the Sprix-pole, and answer the Sprix-phone when he’s out fighting ignorance. (Why do I keep hearing the Donkey Kong theme?) ---
**Author:** ![Phlip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Phlip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phlip)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2002, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-esprix-guy-the-defender-of-the-gay-universe/114816/50 "2002-06-19T14:18:18Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by jr8 \* > \*\*Good point. > > **jayjay** : on behalf of the Federal Association of Bundles of Sticks (FABS) and our UK branch the Chopped Liver Alliance Party (CLAP), I demand a formal apology. \*\* Thats good. You guys don’t want to hang one of the clique by admitting that either a) he is a bigot just like me :rolleyes: or b) your overreacting and acting like asses so you will swallow up any response by me in an abyss of sarcasm and ignoring the question. Trust me guys. Unlike some of you my life does not revolve around the SDMB. Its about as important to me as IGN is. Its entertainment. I have gotten lots of great info from seemingly nice people on here, but I could live without it. You aren’t hurting my feelings. I know that I am not as smart as most of the swarm that are attacking me, so I don’t try to swap wits with them. I said in my OP that I would be assfucked in this thread and that is what is happening. gobear, I knew someone would try to come up with some pathetic rational about why jayjay calls gays faggots and gets away with it. Hopefully someone wil swoop into this thread and lay down some cover fire for me because, if I am not mistaken, its one straight guy versus the whole gay clan of the SDMB. I cant win. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2002, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-esprix-guy-the-defender-of-the-gay-universe/114816/51 "2002-06-19T14:18:19Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Phlip \* > \*\*And the Straightdope Clique begins its decent on its target… > > BTW, I am guessing that jayjay must be gay because that could be the only reason that no one has gotten away with using “faggots” in place of homosexual right? Oh wait, hes one of the clique too, I see. > > Carry on. \*\* I’m gay. I can use “faggot” and “queer” and “fruit” and “homo”. You can’t. 😛 Deal. Oh, and the Clique! Am I a member of the Clique?! Really?! Oh, my goodness…you like me! You really like me! _tears, repeatedly_ jayjay ---
**Author:** ![minty\_green](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@minty\_green](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/minty_green)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2002, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-esprix-guy-the-defender-of-the-gay-universe/114816/52 "2002-06-19T14:19:05Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Phlip \* > He called homosexuals FAGGOTS. Holy shit!! Get the fucking PC crew in here to tear him a new asshole! > > Oh, nevermind. He’s gay. It’s ok then. > > What an awsome double standard. How gay. Get a fucking clue, you idiot. **jayjay** used a slang term for homosexual (a) satirically and (b) without even a trace of denigration. You used another slang term for homosexual as slang for “really lame.” In other words: [ul][li] **jayjay:** Funny and no offensive intent.[/li][li] **Phlip:** Derogatory and moronic.[/ul][/li]Now scamper back under that bridge and leave the billygoats alone. ---
**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2002, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-esprix-guy-the-defender-of-the-gay-universe/114816/53 "2002-06-19T14:22:46Z")
**Phlip** , I just want to give you a couple of tips: You started ok “Why does Esprix post to so many ‘gay’ threads?” Fine. And then you posted that rediculous link of yours and it all went to shit. Dud, unless you’re 12, “Gay” isn’t an insult. ---
**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2002, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-esprix-guy-the-defender-of-the-gay-universe/114816/54 "2002-06-19T14:24:21Z")
Wow, that was supposed to be dude… Talk about a Freudian slip. ---
**Author:** ![Why\_A\_Duck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/13edae/32.png) [@Why\_A\_Duck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Why_A_Duck)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2002, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-esprix-guy-the-defender-of-the-gay-universe/114816/55 "2002-06-19T14:26:55Z")
> [@](#): > > if I am not mistaken, its one straight guy versus the whole gay clan of the SDMB. Wait a minute, there’s a gay clan now? Maybe my Batman theme needs a revision. Now I’m thinking Highlander. “There can be only one.” Kilts for everyone! ---
**Author:** ![Phlip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Phlip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phlip)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2002, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-esprix-guy-the-defender-of-the-gay-universe/114816/56 "2002-06-19T14:28:03Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by alice\_in\_wonderland \* > \*\ ***Phlip** , I just want to give you a couple of tips: > > You started ok “Why does Esprix post to so many ‘gay’ threads?” Fine. > > And then you posted that rediculous link of yours and it all went to shit. > > Dud, unless you’re 12, “Gay” isn’t an insult. \*\* Apparently it is now. Unless you ARE gay. Then you can say cool things like FAGGOT, and FAG, and HOMO. Cool! ---
**Author:** ![scott\_evil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/91b2a8/32.png) [@scott\_evil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scott_evil)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2002, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-esprix-guy-the-defender-of-the-gay-universe/114816/57 "2002-06-19T14:28:11Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Phlip \* > I said in my OP that I would be assfucked in this thread and that is what is happening. And are you enjoying it? I personally don’t like it, but I know many guys who do. 😛 > [@](#): > > its one straight guy versus the whole gay clan of the SDMB. **it’s** , not its Isn’t that always the case? :rolleyes: > [@](#): > > I cant win. You put apostrophes where they don’t belong, and leave them out where they do. And no, you can’t win. - s.e. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Ace\_of\_Swords](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e495f1/32.png) [@The\_Ace\_of\_Swords](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Ace_of_Swords)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2002, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-esprix-guy-the-defender-of-the-gay-universe/114816/58 "2002-06-19T14:32:34Z")
**Phlip** Re: the use of the word faggots: Context is not a double standard. When jayjay, who is gay, uses it he’s being charmingly self-deprecating. When you use it, it’s clear that it’s derogatory, and will trigger emotional reactions. Certainly, there are many double standards here, as evidenced by the several threads S.E. has spawned, but this ain’t one of them. -Ace ---
**Author:** ![minty\_green](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@minty\_green](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/minty_green)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2002, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-esprix-guy-the-defender-of-the-gay-universe/114816/59 "2002-06-19T14:32:37Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by scott evil \* > You put apostrophes where they don’t belong, and leave them out where they do. OMG! **Phlip** is **Fenris** ’ sock! :eek: ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2002, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-esprix-guy-the-defender-of-the-gay-universe/114816/60 "2002-06-19T14:34:54Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Phlip \* > \*\*gobear, I knew someone would try to come up with some pathetic rational about why jayjay calls gays faggots and gets away with it. Hopefully someone wil swoop into this thread and lay down some cover fire for me because, if I am not mistaken, its one straight guy versus the whole gay clan of the SDMB. I cant win. \*\* But hark, is that a flame I hear? **Martyr’s** in trouble, oh dear! Oh, dear! Who will save him from the queers? Never fear! Underdog is here! You know, **Phlip** , when I posted the Underdog theme parody early, early this morning, it was not intended to be aimed at you. Someone in #straightdope chat thought that it sounded unduly agressive toward you and I started to try to clarify it because that was not my aim. The boards being what they were at 2:00 AM EDT, I never did get in to make the retraction/clarification, because you didn’t seem to find it offensive. Now I’m starting to wonder why I bothered to care. This whole “I’ll come in and pointlessly attack a popular and respected poster but when people pile on cry ‘foul!’ and whine until they leave me alone” thing has been done before. Multiple times. Usually by posters of questionable integrity and reason. Oh, and There Is No Clique… jayjay [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-esprix-guy-the-defender-of-the-gay-universe/114816.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-esprix-guy-the-defender-of-the-gay-universe/114816.md?page=4)