Oh, cripes. I meant to say, “the most ardent gun control advocate does not suggest absolutely prohibiting firearms”
But you could probably guess that from the context.
Not that it wasn’t brought up before (among others repeatedly by me in when being in a state of suicide-at-SDMB attempt), but nevertheless: Thank you OP.
Not that I have now the slightest illusion that the message shall be able to reach the closed minds of those who need to wake up.
Salaam. A
It is the piranhic tyranny that is the most insidious, and the only variety that can be foisted upon an educated republic. Were there a Stalin or Hitler, we could muster the fortitude and vigilance to save ourselves. But our freedoms are being eaten away a morsel at a time. We humans are nothing if not adaptable, and they are careful to strap us with no more than we can bear each time they bite. Death by what you call the “quintessential tyrant” is like being shot with a gun; death by the tyrants we have is like smoking cigarettes for forty years.
Yes, yes, yes. That, ladies and gentlemen, is the perfect post.
It’s what I’ve been trying to explain to a co-worker of mine: if the Bush administration had attempted [which I know isn’t possible, per se] to implement all of these decisions at once [the Iraq war, the appointing of ultra-conservative SC judges, the marriage amendment, the Patriot Act, ad infinitum] the outcry would have been deafening. Instead of a flood, it’s been drop by drop into an enormous pool and gone mostly unheard. Either way is just as dangerous.
Talking of closed minds, lets start with you Bush hater boy.
I don’t care, he got it wrong, I savoured the moment asshat.
Pwned.
Oh, so he got the “coward support tyranny” part right? Well, that’s good to know, then.
Pwned.
He got what wrong? You post didn’t address anything he said. What does your support of Labour have to do with the post by Liberal which you quoted?
He’s claiming that because he supported the party called “Labour” (leftist), he cannot have been a Tory (rightist) — much like Benedict Arnold cannot have supported the British since he served in Washington’s army.
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Pwned.
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Stop talking. Please, just stop talking.
Liam, you cuntrag, there you go mucking the boards up with your monthly flow again. Just go somewhere and fuck off for a time and leave the adults here to have intellectual discussions. Your ignorant and openly hateful diatribes get old because your story never changes.
Sam
Thanks for sharing your well thought-out position on the matter. You provide us with an excellent example of ‘intellectual discussion’! :rolleyes:
TOTAL HIJACK: Is it about time for Feingold to run for president? Maybe even better, for Vice-President with John McCain at the top of the ticket?
I’ll agree with Spooje & Gobear here. And like Spooje, I don’t know what to do about it.
The terrorists have won! The US has become so afraid of being attacked again, we’re willing to sacrafice our most cherished personal liberties in order to feel “safe.”
Funny, I’ve never seen you add anything substantial to a conversation, ever. Just random attacks on the viewpoints of others, without anything to back up “your own” opinions.
Anyone want to take bets on how Brutus will respond to my post? Five dollars to whoever’s closest. It won’t be that hard.
The same could be said for your contribution to this thread, so thank you! After all, what is a tyrant without his collaborators?
Think long and hard about the world you’re helping to craft, Brutus. You’re far too clever (and, I must admit, paranoid) to keep supporting this administration.
Not that I agree with what the Administration’s doing, but there is precident on their side. IIRC, it was about 10 years ago that the CIA snatched some drug lord from Mexico, without bothering to inform the locals of what they were doing, and without following the basic rights accorded under US law. It went to SCOTUS, who said, “Hey! You’re operating outside the US! The Constitution doesn’t apply to such things!”
Then, of course, there’s the whole business of Lincoln suspending habeas corpus during the Civil War, but let’s not go back that far in American history.
I voted for Bush. I don’t think many right wingers are against a federal ID card. Why so hostile to those wanting to preserve their right to keep guns and keep taxes low? Seems hypocritical to attack those wanting to preserve the existing right to keep their guns and, in the same paragraph, attack them for not fighting to preserve the existing rights of a fair trial.
And no, I’m not cheering this policy. Not everyone that supports Bush agrees with every single policy of his. Always enjoy being included in the many generalizations of conservatives posted on this baord, though.
Well, it’s a little early, since the next opportunity for such a thing isn’t until 2008. But I don’t think Russ wants to run for Prez, he’s said as much to me, and others. He holds his seat in the Senate in part due to the last slowly fading strains of Wisconsin progressivism, a la “Battling Bob” LaFollette. It wouldn’t play in the red states.
But with McCain on the top of the ticket? That might be interesting. Though I think it unlikely.
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This question has been asked before, although never really answered, so I will ask it again. Just which of your most cherished personal liberties have you given up?