# Is this guy in every sci-fi fantasy movie? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** movies\ **Created:** [November 9, 2024, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-guy-in-every-sci-fi-fantasy-movie/1009982 "2024-11-09T13:40:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2024, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-guy-in-every-sci-fi-fantasy-movie/1009982/1 "2024-11-09T13:40:15Z")
There is always a guy with long platinum blonde hair where it’s perfectly straight and hanging down his back. Every. Movie, or am I imaging things (again)? ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2024, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-guy-in-every-sci-fi-fantasy-movie/1009982/2 "2024-11-09T15:21:49Z")
You mean like Lee Pace in _the Hobbit_? [![](https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/ZHcAAOSwhHFbPAIY/s-l1200.jpg) ](https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/ZHcAAOSwhHFbPAIY/s-l1200.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2024, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-guy-in-every-sci-fi-fantasy-movie/1009982/3 "2024-11-09T15:48:45Z")
That’s him. I’m pretty sure the prototype was one of the baddies in Die Hard. Wasn’t there one in Dune? ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2024, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-guy-in-every-sci-fi-fantasy-movie/1009982/4 "2024-11-09T15:53:10Z")
And, Lee Pace is playing Thranduil, the father of Legolas, who _also_ had that hairstyle: [![](https://64.media.tumblr.com/ccb1269658f4a97c376477d8f7ba4894/9f8d47d2c7382d7c-4e/s500x750/95cdc569e17c6dc07fde04ca26845572afab5969.jpg) ](https://64.media.tumblr.com/ccb1269658f4a97c376477d8f7ba4894/9f8d47d2c7382d7c-4e/s500x750/95cdc569e17c6dc07fde04ca26845572afab5969.jpg) Plus, there’s Thor, of course: [![](https://cdn.britannica.com/73/182873-050-E1C686F4/Chris-Hemsworth-Thor-Thor-The-Dark-World.jpg) ](https://cdn.britannica.com/73/182873-050-E1C686F4/Chris-Hemsworth-Thor-Thor-The-Dark-World.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2024, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-guy-in-every-sci-fi-fantasy-movie/1009982/5 "2024-11-09T17:30:57Z")
David Bowie in _Labyrinth_. Not platinum blonde, but in the area. [![](https://c8.alamy.com/comp/RYW6XK/labyrinth-year-1986-usa-director-jim-henson-david-bowie-RYW6XK.jpg) ](https://c8.alamy.com/comp/RYW6XK/labyrinth-year-1986-usa-director-jim-henson-david-bowie-RYW6XK.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2024, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-guy-in-every-sci-fi-fantasy-movie/1009982/6 "2024-11-09T17:32:48Z")
Isn’t there one of these guys in some of the Star Wars movies? ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2024, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-guy-in-every-sci-fi-fantasy-movie/1009982/7 "2024-11-09T17:35:34Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > Isn’t there one of these guys in some of the Star Wars movies The only major male character I can think of, off the top of my head, with that sort of hairstyle, is Qui-Gon Jinn, but he had dark hair. [![](https://static1.cbrimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Liam-Neeson-as-Qui-Gon-Jinn-in-Star-Wars-The-Phantom-Menace.jpg) ](https://static1.cbrimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Liam-Neeson-as-Qui-Gon-Jinn-in-Star-Wars-The-Phantom-Menace.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2024, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-guy-in-every-sci-fi-fantasy-movie/1009982/8 "2024-11-09T17:39:13Z")
> **[https://i.redd.it/fantasy-men-with-long-white-hair-appreciation-post-v0-cu7phrta...](https://i.redd.it/fantasy-men-with-long-white-hair-appreciation-post-v0-cu7phrta6rba1.png?width=644&format=png&auto=webp&s=bd9da8640e77b0b32d37c03396dfbde48d7be949)** Lucius Malfoy ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2024, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-guy-in-every-sci-fi-fantasy-movie/1009982/9 "2024-11-09T17:40:08Z")
The baddie from “Hellboy 2: The Golden Army” [![](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/88/17/30/8817303dff2aed4c446f68bd071eae1e.jpg) ](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/88/17/30/8817303dff2aed4c446f68bd071eae1e.jpg) And the chief Morlock from the 2002 remake of “The Time Machine” [![](https://cdn10.bigcommerce.com/s-x8dfmo/products/11724/images/34773/Jeremy-Irons-in-The-Time-Machine-2002-Premium-Photograph-and-Poster-1023101__47680.1432433158.386.513.jpg?c=2) ](https://cdn10.bigcommerce.com/s-x8dfmo/products/11724/images/34773/Jeremy-Irons-in-The-Time-Machine-2002-Premium-Photograph-and-Poster-1023101__47680.1432433158.386.513.jpg?c=2) ---
**Author:** ![iamatractorboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iamatractorboy/32/21261_2.png) [@iamatractorboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamatractorboy)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2024, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-guy-in-every-sci-fi-fantasy-movie/1009982/10 "2024-11-09T22:38:39Z")
Cheating a bit as it’s not a film, but Link from Zelda surely fits the bill? [![](https://cdn.wikimg.net/en/zeldawiki/images/8/87/ALttP_Link_Artwork.png) ](https://cdn.wikimg.net/en/zeldawiki/images/8/87/ALttP_Link_Artwork.png) ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2024, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-guy-in-every-sci-fi-fantasy-movie/1009982/11 "2024-11-09T22:48:46Z")
Shoulder-length upswept strawberry blonde isn’t remotely the same “bill” as straight platinum halfway down the back. Thor doesn’t meet the description, either. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2024, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-guy-in-every-sci-fi-fantasy-movie/1009982/12 "2024-11-09T23:05:55Z")
Don’t forget these guys in the Matrix sequel: [![](https://static1.srcdn.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/The-Matrix-Reloaded-Twins.jpg) ](https://static1.srcdn.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/The-Matrix-Reloaded-Twins.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2024, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-guy-in-every-sci-fi-fantasy-movie/1009982/13 "2024-11-09T23:11:06Z")
The archetype has been around a long time. [![](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/912BCxoHsJL._AC_UF1000,1000_QL80_.jpg) ](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/912BCxoHsJL._AC_UF1000,1000_QL80_.jpg) _The Dreaming City_ was published in 1961. ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2024, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-guy-in-every-sci-fi-fantasy-movie/1009982/14 "2024-11-09T23:18:56Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > The archetype has been around a long time > _The Dreaming City_ was published in 1961. But is the character described in-story as having long straight pale hair? If not, when does that cover art date to? ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2024, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-guy-in-every-sci-fi-fantasy-movie/1009982/15 "2024-11-09T23:20:38Z")
IIRC, he’s an albino, so certainly pale at least. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2024, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-guy-in-every-sci-fi-fantasy-movie/1009982/16 "2024-11-09T23:26:13Z")
> [@Lumpy](#): > > But is the character described in-story as having long straight pale hair? If not, when does that cover art date to? As @Chronos notes, Elric is an albino, so white hair is assumed. I can’t speak to exactly how his hairstyle is described in Moorcock’s stories, but in 1980, he was depicted in a Dungeons & Dragons rulebook (the first edition release of _Deities & Demigods_) , and here’s how artist Jeff Dee drew him: [![](https://64.media.tumblr.com/3807be2f1a3e73b1fc1fc4c7a02b5c4d/tumblr_pmm9p0EK451ro2bqto1_500.jpg) ](https://64.media.tumblr.com/3807be2f1a3e73b1fc1fc4c7a02b5c4d/tumblr_pmm9p0EK451ro2bqto1_500.jpg) ---
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> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > That’s him. I’m pretty sure the prototype was one of the baddies in Die Hard. [![](https://i.imgur.com/wRM1thA.png) ](https://i.imgur.com/wRM1thA.png) ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2024, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-guy-in-every-sci-fi-fantasy-movie/1009982/18 "2024-11-09T23:27:35Z")
> [@Lumpy](#): > > But is the character described in-story as having long straight pale hair? If not, when does that cover art date to? Here’s one from 1979: [![](https://64.media.tumblr.com/c8234e52e82ced777f602d816c9a29ef/3b20a6d0f4c896bd-13/s2048x3072/2fd31502e9b53c9249bd00523fb88d0628ccc3b9.jpg) ](https://64.media.tumblr.com/c8234e52e82ced777f602d816c9a29ef/3b20a6d0f4c896bd-13/s2048x3072/2fd31502e9b53c9249bd00523fb88d0628ccc3b9.jpg) Here’s one from 1976: > **[ELRIC OF MELNIBONE](https://www.michaelwhelan.com/galleries/elric-of-melnibone/)** > > Visit the post for more. Elric is a very popular figure in fantasy artwork. Those are two pictures I managed to date, but there are many, many more. He’s always depicted with long white hair. ---
**Author:** ![iamatractorboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iamatractorboy/32/21261_2.png) [@iamatractorboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamatractorboy)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-guy-in-every-sci-fi-fantasy-movie/1009982/19 "2024-11-10T06:45:49Z")
Well sorry i spoke!! ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 8:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-guy-in-every-sci-fi-fantasy-movie/1009982/20 "2024-11-10T08:00:50Z")
Don’t forget Daemon Targaryen, from HBO’s _House of the Dragon_, whose character design was a blatant Elric ripoff: [![](https://typelish.com/c/0lwRP72) ](https://typelish.com/c/0lwRP72) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-guy-in-every-sci-fi-fantasy-movie/1009982.md?page=2)