# Is this guy in every sci-fi fantasy movie? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** movies\ **Created:** [November 9, 2024, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-guy-in-every-sci-fi-fantasy-movie/1009982 "2024-11-09T13:40:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 8:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-guy-in-every-sci-fi-fantasy-movie/1009982/21 "2024-11-10T08:48:45Z")
Pretty much the entire Castithan species in the SF series _Defiance_ > **[Datak Tarr](https://defiance.fandom.com/wiki/Datak_Tarr)** > > Datak Tarr has been very successful in building up his diverse business interests in the town of Defiance, as well as his fortune. A scheming Castithan alien and ark survivor, he has primarily been a racketeer in Defiance’s underworld, running... ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 9:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-guy-in-every-sci-fi-fantasy-movie/1009982/22 "2024-11-10T09:06:50Z")
At this point, what I’m actually finding remarkable is that there **wasn’t** a main character like this in _Babylon 5_ ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 9:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-guy-in-every-sci-fi-fantasy-movie/1009982/23 "2024-11-10T09:13:34Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Don’t forget Daemon Targaryen, from HBO’s _House of the Dragon_, whose character design was a blatant Elric ripoff Or Arthas from the Warcraft universe, who even comes with his own soul-eating runeblade; [![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/VfsHW8oWXLs/sddefault.jpg) ](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/VfsHW8oWXLs/sddefault.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 9:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-guy-in-every-sci-fi-fantasy-movie/1009982/24 "2024-11-10T09:36:07Z")
> [@Mangetout](#): > > At this point, what I’m actually finding remarkable is that there **wasn’t** a main character like this in _Babylon 5_ None of the aliens there had downward-facing hair. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 9:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-guy-in-every-sci-fi-fantasy-movie/1009982/25 "2024-11-10T09:40:40Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > None of the aliens there had downward-facing hair. Delenn did (after her transformation): [![](https://i0.wp.com/wordsmusicandnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/141404733_3724837060919328_377980638502073417_o.jpg?resize=616%2C616&ssl=1) ](https://i0.wp.com/wordsmusicandnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/141404733_3724837060919328_377980638502073417_o.jpg?resize=616%2C616&ssl=1) ---
**Author:** ![Retzbu\_Tox](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/retzbu_tox/32/11829_2.png) [@Retzbu\_Tox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Retzbu_Tox)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-guy-in-every-sci-fi-fantasy-movie/1009982/26 "2024-11-10T17:25:08Z")
I’m mind-boggled that Lee Pace played every platinum blonde mentioned so far in the thread. 🧐 🤪 > [@kenobi\_65](#): > > here’s how artist Jeff Dee drew him: Jeff Dee is cool. He’s commented on my gaming-related Facebook posts a couple times. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-guy-in-every-sci-fi-fantasy-movie/1009982/27 "2024-11-10T17:28:40Z")
> [@Retzbu\_Tox](#): > > Jeff Dee is cool. He’s commented on my gaming-related Facebook posts a couple times. He definitely is. I supported a Kickstarter campaign of his, some years ago, in which he recreated art he’d done for TSR back in the '70s and '80s (all of the originals had been thrown out), to help fund the legal bills which he and his friend, Jack Herman, had run up as they had fought, in court, to regain the rights to the _Villains & Vigilantes_ RPG (which they had created while they were in high school). ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-guy-in-every-sci-fi-fantasy-movie/1009982/28 "2024-11-10T18:24:37Z")
I can’t be the only one who figured we’d never see Lee Pace again after Pushing Daisies. Not to mention the types of roles he’s been in haven’t been the ones I figured he could do after only seeing him in Pushing Daisies(and Wonderfalls, actually). ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-guy-in-every-sci-fi-fantasy-movie/1009982/29 "2024-11-10T18:32:13Z")
Let’s not forget this guy. [![](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BMjAyNjAwMTk0NV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwNjg5OTk1OQ@@._V1_FMjpg_UX1000_.jpg) ](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BMjAyNjAwMTk0NV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwNjg5OTk1OQ@@._V1_FMjpg_UX1000_.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-guy-in-every-sci-fi-fantasy-movie/1009982/30 "2024-11-10T19:29:20Z")
From season 2, episode 3 of “Arcane”: [[Album] imgur.com ![](https://i.imgur.com/cchAYoK.jpeg?fb "imgur.com") ](https://imgur.com/a/6fNg7bc) Who is this guy and his family? I have no idea. ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-guy-in-every-sci-fi-fantasy-movie/1009982/31 "2024-11-10T21:55:03Z")
> [@Retzbu\_Tox](#): > > I’m mind-boggled that Lee Pace played every platinum blonde mentioned so far in the thread. 🧐 I thought they were all played by Johnny and/or Edgar Winter. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-guy-in-every-sci-fi-fantasy-movie/1009982/32 "2024-11-10T21:59:15Z")
Kaecilius from _Doctor Strange_ would be a candidate I think, but he’s got it pony-tailed. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-guy-in-every-sci-fi-fantasy-movie/1009982/33 "2024-11-10T22:01:50Z")
> [@Mangetout](#): > > Kaecilius from _Doctor Strange_ would be a candidate I think, but he’s got it pony-tailed And he’s not blonde, either (at least, not in the movie), which is part of the OP’s stated archetype. [![](https://ew.com/thmb/VSXp2yCuBWatHxhkmb1lDt206Ps=/1500x0/filters:no_upscale():max_bytes(150000):strip_icc()/ew-000239961-045002b0dc484d3c9a167d4a24d363ab.jpg) ](https://ew.com/thmb/VSXp2yCuBWatHxhkmb1lDt206Ps=/1500x0/filters:no_upscale():max_bytes(150000):strip_icc()/ew-000239961-045002b0dc484d3c9a167d4a24d363ab.jpg) ---
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So, unless I’ve missed one, nobody’s found any examples from Star Wars nor Star Trek. It seems rather a stretch to me to refer to “every sci-fi fantasy movie”, when it doesn’t appear in either of the two biggest sci-fi franchises. There might also be a few in individual MCU movies, but not in most of them, either. Fantasy, I might grant (though there are still plenty of counterexamples), given that Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings are the biggest fantasy franchises. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-guy-in-every-sci-fi-fantasy-movie/1009982/35 "2024-11-10T22:04:57Z")
He’s Grey. ‘Platinum Blonde’ is sometimes a euphemism for that. Maybe. OK, how about Ebony Maw from Doctor Strange 2 ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-guy-in-every-sci-fi-fantasy-movie/1009982/36 "2024-11-10T22:08:22Z")
Here’s one from the Star Wars universe, but not a main character in any of the movies: > **[Arkanian/Legends](https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Arkanian/Legends)** > > The Arkanians were a near-Human species which resided primarily on the frozen planet of Arkania in the Perave system of the Colonies region of the galaxy. Arkanians considered themselves the pinnacle of evolution, and as such many were distinctly... ---
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> [@EinsteinsHund](#): > > I thought they were all played by Johnny and/or Edgar Winter. Close enough. [![](https://www.bodeganottingham.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/edgar-johnny-winter.jpg) ](https://www.bodeganottingham.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/edgar-johnny-winter.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-guy-in-every-sci-fi-fantasy-movie/1009982/38 "2024-11-10T22:11:32Z")
> [@Mangetout](#): > > OK, how about Ebony Maw from Doctor Strange 2 _Avengers: Infinity War_, actually. He has white hair, but I’m not easily finding a picture of him that shows the full hairstyle. [![](https://cdn.marvel.com/content/1x/142ebm_ons_mas_dsk_03.jpg) ](https://cdn.marvel.com/content/1x/142ebm_ons_mas_dsk_03.jpg) > [@Mangetout](#): > > Here’s one from the Star Wars universe, but not a main character in any of the movies: Arkanians have appeared a _lot_ in other media (video games, comic books, etc.), but I don’t think that there’s ever been even a brief canon appearance of one in a movie or TV show. ---
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Matthias Hues in _I Come in Peace_ (1990, a.k.a. _Dark Angel_). He probably played similar roles in other films given his looks. > **[Dark Angel (1990)](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0099817/mediaviewer/rm3146520832)** > > Matthias Hues in Dark Angel (1990) ---
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> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > He has white hair, but I’m not easily finding a picture of him that shows the full hairstyle. Maybe this? [![](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/marvelcinematicuniverse/images/c/c0/Ebony_Maw_displeased.jpg) ](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/marvelcinematicuniverse/images/c/c0/Ebony_Maw_displeased.jpg) Or artist rendition: [![](https://i.pinimg.com/736x/f9/fa/c3/f9fac303f44be0262a066bf1ea2dc1e1.jpg) ](https://i.pinimg.com/736x/f9/fa/c3/f9fac303f44be0262a066bf1ea2dc1e1.jpg) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-guy-in-every-sci-fi-fantasy-movie/1009982.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-guy-in-every-sci-fi-fantasy-movie/1009982.md?page=3)