# Is this hate speech?

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**Created:** [June 18, 2010, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-hate-speech/543714 "2010-06-18T21:35:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2010, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-hate-speech/543714/41 "2010-06-19T00:50:07Z")

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> woowoo means vagina. See earlier posts in this thread.

> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> woowoo means vagina. If you call someone a woowoo you are clearly calling him a cunt.

Get a grip, Peter. _woowoo_ doesn’t mean vagina. Give me a legitimate cite that it does.

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**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2010, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-hate-speech/543714/42 "2010-06-19T00:50:28Z")

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> woowoo means vagina.

What? No it doesn’t. Or at least I have never, ever heard it used that way.

I’ve always understood it to be an onomatopoeia of the theremin music used in low-budget sci-fi and horror films. Hence its use to mock beliefs that many regard as science fiction.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2010, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-hate-speech/543714/43 "2010-06-19T00:52:10Z")

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> [@Sage\_Rat](#):
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> A) Your personal definition of the word is irrelevant. Society defines the meaning of a word, not you.

> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Woowoo does not mean vagina. **Gimpy** was making a joke.

See definition 4

> **[Urban Dictionary: woowoo](https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=woowoo)**
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> woowoo: Sound that whistle tips (in mufflers) make, as exhibited by Oakland resident Bubb Rubb.

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**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2010, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-hate-speech/543714/44 "2010-06-19T00:55:53Z")

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> See definition 4  
> [Urban Dictionary: woowoo](http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=woowoo)

Yeah, I don’t think that term has ever been used in that sense at the SDMB. It certainly is not the intended usage when somebody refers to ESP as “woowoo.” See definitions #2 and #3

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2010, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-hate-speech/543714/45 "2010-06-19T01:01:08Z")

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> [@Tamerlane](#):
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> Yeah, I don’t think that term has ever been used in that sense at the SDMB.

see post 5.

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2010, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-hate-speech/543714/46 "2010-06-19T01:11:52Z")

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> see post 5.

The one where he admitted to having misunderstood what people meant by it?

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2010, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-hate-speech/543714/47 "2010-06-19T01:15:39Z")

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> See definition 4  
> [Urban Dictionary: woowoo](http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=woowoo)

An unassailable reference. It should also be noted, however, that “Peter Morris” is common slang for a sex act so foul, it makes a Cleveland Steamer look like a Five Knuckle Shuffle.

Or at least it will be, if you’ll allow me a moment to create the entry… catch my drift?

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**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2010, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-hate-speech/543714/48 "2010-06-19T01:16:28Z")

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Funniest thread ever. Hats off, guys.

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**Author:** ![Properties\_of\_Iron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7cd45c/32.png) [@Properties\_of\_Iron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Properties_of_Iron)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2010, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-hate-speech/543714/49 "2010-06-19T01:21:11Z")

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> See definition 4  
> [Urban Dictionary: woowoo](http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=woowoo)

If we’re accepting urban dictionary as a source for meanings of term, then it very well could have been a group compliment! As in definition 5.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2010, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-hate-speech/543714/50 "2010-06-19T01:28:57Z")

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> The word is \*woo-woo \*(or _woowoo_, or just simply _woo_) as used twice in the OP of [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=12591166#post12591166).
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> …
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> It is used by the OP to denigrate anyone who doesn’t have the exact same set of beliefs that he has.

> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> woowoo means vagina. See earlier posts in this thread.

So which is it?

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2010, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-hate-speech/543714/51 "2010-06-19T01:36:43Z")

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> This isn’t correct, by the way. As a counter cite, just see any page from Randi’s website. Approximately every 100th word is “woowoo” or some variant.

And your point is…? :dubious:

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2010, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-hate-speech/543714/52 "2010-06-19T01:37:38Z")

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> [@Properties\_of\_Iron](#):
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> If we’re accepting urban dictionary as a source for meanings of term, then it very well could have been a group compliment! As in definition 5.

[From the Urban Dictionary](http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=vagina&defid=2278413) as well:

> [@](#):
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> vagina [**3422** up](http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=vagina&defid=2278413#), [**352** down](http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=vagina&defid=2278413#)
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> The female reproductive organ. Synonyms include:
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> copher, cunt, pussy, twat, cooter, beaver, fish lips, taco, camel toe, muff, snatch, fuck hole, garage, oven, love button, penis glove, cock sock, cock pocket, JJ, hoohah, bajingo, cum dumpster, sperm bottle, goop chute, slit, trim, quim, pooter, love rug, poontang, poonanie, cooch, tunnel of love, vertical bacon sandwich, bearded clam, cookie, cooleyhopper, nookie, the pink, honey pot, cunny, vag, meat curtains, hatchet wound, putz, fur burger, box, front bottom, gash, kebab, kitty, minge, snapper, catfish, vertical smile, lovebox, love canal, nana, flower, the cum dump, chocha, black hole, sperm sucker, fish sandwich, cock warmer, whisker biscuit, carpet, deep socket, cum craver, cock squeezer, slice of heaven, flesh cavern, the great divide, cherry, tongue depressor, clit slit,laps, fuzz box, fuzzy wuzzy, glory hole, grumble, man in the boat, mud flaps, mound, peach, piss flaps, the fish flap, he furry cup, stench-trench, wizard’s sleeve, DNA dumpster, tuna town, split dick, bikini bizkit, cock holster, cockpit, snooch, kitty kat, poody tat, grassy knoll, cold cut combo, Jewel box, rosebud, curly curtains, furry furnace, slop hole, velcro love triangle, nether lips, where Uncle’s doodle goes, altar of love, cupid’s cupboard, bird’s nest, bucket, cock-chafer, love glove, serpent socket, spunk-pot, hairy doughnut, fun hatch, spasm chasm, red lane, stinky speedway, bacon hole, belly entrance, sugar basin, sweet briar, breakfast of champions, wookie, fish mitten, fuck pocket, hump hole, pink circle, silk igloo, scrambled eggs between the legs, black oak, Republic of Labia, juice box, Golden Palace, fetus flaps, skins, sausage wallet, Holiest of Holies, sugar hole, The Death of Adam, home plate, Deer Hoof, Golden Arches, Cats Paw, Mule Nose, Yo Yo Smuggler, Mumbler, Dinner Roll, Crotch Waffle, Piss Fenders, crack, Melvin, Dove Breast, Brakepads, Vedgie, Slurpy, Vacuum Vulva, Pastrami Flaps, Hot Tamaki Walk, Buffalo Gums,Rooster Jaws, Wagon Ruts, Beaver Teeth, Mumble Pants, Ninja Boot, Marcia, Skin Canoe, Fatty, Mossy Jaw, The Big W, Chia Hole, Lip Jeans, Beetle Hood, Hungry Minge, Welly Top, Frum, Pancake Fold, Tongue Roll, Bologna Flap-Over, Furrogi (Poland), Fortune Nookie, Bearded Taco, Calamari Cockring, Displabia, Slot Pocket, Bluntfrunt, Fishamjig, Pole Magnet, Pocket Pie, Clamarama, kitty cage, Chicken’s tongue, Conch shell, Crack of heaven, Dog’s mouth, Door of life, Fly catcher, Fruit cup, Jelly roll, Lobster pot, bunny tuft, knish, her asshole neighbor, lotus, nappy dugout, moneymaker, womens weapon, tackle box, bone hider, red sea, pizzo, jizz recepticle, The Helmut Hide-A-Way, hairy heaven, furry 8 ball rack, crave cave, arbys with fur, fish canyon, toolshed, snake charmer, Furby, Enchilada of love, Ham sandwich, Camarillo brillo, Brazilian caterpillar, dick rack, boy in the canoe, flesh tuxedo, Mound of Venus, queef quarters, Venus butterfly, cream canal, apple pie, pie, wet mark, private area, thresher, punash, salami garage, slurpee machine, pink cookie, penalty box, ground zero, meat crease, bait, birth canal, holy grail, pole hole, pork pie, fuzz bucket, one-eyed python trail, bubble gum by the bum, stink rink, theme park, saloon doors, pink truffle, bitter & twisted, burger bar, meat counter, temperamental ringpiece, python syphon, big bud, the Wombsday Book, the condo downstate, snake lake, the indoor barbecue, pound cake, beef tomato, tickled pink, launch pad, horn of plenty, the indoor picnic, hamper of goodies, flapped bap, bonefish, close encounter with the turd kind, sperm bank, man’s charity bash, bush tucker, midnight dip, the one-door vulva, the welcome opponent, the Twatlantic Ocean, temporary lodgings, field of dreams, bean, cooze, old catchers mitt, devil’s hole, lucy, pish buffet, pooswaa, poonaner, davey jones locker, pink panther, tinker bell, south mouth, dick eater, wonder bread, wolly bolly, foxhole, hot pocket, head catcher, Lawrence of A Labia, silk funnel, dick driver, purple people penis eater, ponchita, cherry pop tart, fat rabbit, scunt, pee jaws, mingus, The Notorious V.A.G., dugout, babyoven, penis parking, cooter muffin, the promised land, cha cha, the shrine, bitch ditch, fury pink mink, mammal hole, ever-lasting cum stopper, the toothless blow job, happy flappy, wilt chamberlian’s daily glove, the code defierthe salt water taffy factory, mommy’s pie, the easy bake oven, the deflower patch, the virginator, the schlong sucker, the dea bone patch, the vegitarian’s temptation, the vegan store, the blow hole, the pump protector, bag pipe, Spitball Bullseye, meat wagon, pickle stinker, jezebel’s smell, yoni, willys haven, scrumpter, peach, sweat box, yeast pocket, penis warmer, tampon tunnel, penis pothole, cucumber canal, egg drop Box, sperm shack, dick dungeon, cock curator, b.o.b.‘s bungalow, mommy parts, tuna pot pie, nice slice, peter vise, rack of clam, peters grove, penis purse, grandest canyon, fish dish, banana box, tuna spread, pink portal, count fapula, red river gorge, happy valley, revolving in/out door, baby zipper, richards house, stop-n-pop, bone polisher, packin shack, weiner wrap, clap trap, dildo hotel, axe gash, pearl hotel, sea food six pack, clam canal, coose canal, dick deposit, wand waxer, vidgie, erie canal, candy kiss, gauntlet, round mound of beehound,lick n’ stick, lap flounder, tomahawk chop, chin-chin, pachinko, cuntry pie, lip tip, the big casino, one eyed worm hole, amazon forest, cock cave, fuck donut, coochie pop, babby, wet seal, pissy froth hole, bald biscuit, the unmentionable, mans ruin, peeshie, hairy potter, courtney cocksleve, panty hamster,deep pink, jaws of life, gizmo, faith, cock magnet, slippery slide, Meat tunnel, pink heaven, squid, dick basket, hot spot, poochika, pudding, bowl, love cave, squeeze-box, he bone collector, goodie basket, depository, pink turtleneck, bread-box, little debbie, pole hole, pandora’s box,snail tracker, cuntzilla, homebase, pud pocket, bear trap, indian bones and the temple of poon, chanch, big montana, noochie, choot, golden valley, nappy roots, dick mitten, mystical fold, red bread, meat locker, douche luge, pushin cushion, cocktease

A pretty exhaustive list. But no woo-woo.

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2010, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-hate-speech/543714/53 "2010-06-19T01:50:11Z")

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I’m sure I’ve heard woowoo as a vagina reference somewhere. But that’s completely beside the point, since terms can have multiple meanings. When it’s used in reference to new-age crap and ghosts and that stuff, it’s simply a different meaning.

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**Author:** ![Max\_the\_Immortal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6de8d8/32.png) [@Max\_the\_Immortal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_the_Immortal)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2010, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-hate-speech/543714/54 "2010-06-19T02:01:17Z")

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> See definition 4  
> [Urban Dictionary: woowoo](http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=woowoo)

Definition 4 has more votes down than votes up. That makes it an anti-cite.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2010, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-hate-speech/543714/55 "2010-06-19T02:06:32Z")

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> **[Wee Wee, Cocky Doody And Woo Woo](http://dbellel.blogspot.com/2007/12/wee-wee-cocky-doody-and-woo-woo.html)**
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> from High Anxiety. Love those Freudians. Except for Mel, just keep them as far away as possible.

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**Post date:** [June 19, 2010, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-hate-speech/543714/56 "2010-06-19T02:18:31Z")

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> [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](#):
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> Funniest thread ever. Hats off, guys.

Ah man, this thread is killing me. I can’t even tell who’s joking or serious anymore.

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**Post date:** [June 19, 2010, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-hate-speech/543714/57 "2010-06-19T03:03:11Z")

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> [@Revtim](#):
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> I’m sure I’ve heard woowoo as a vagina reference somewhere. But that’s completely beside the point, since terms can have multiple meanings. When it’s used in reference to new-age crap and ghosts and that stuff, it’s simply a different meaning.

You’re probably thinking of [Christina Aguilera’s new song](http://www.directlyrics.com/christina-aguilera-woo-hoo-lyrics.html).

> [@](#):
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> You know you really wanna (hey)  
> Wanna taste my (woohoo)  
> You know you wanna get a peak  
> Wanna see my (woohoo)  
> You know you wanna put your lips  
> Where my hips are (woohoo)  
> Kiss all my (woohoo)  
> All over my (woohoo)

And even that is linguistically superior to PM’s argument.

Especially since definition #5 on his own Urban Dictionary cite says that woowoo is “A person who looks good and does something spectacular.”

Really, PM? You’re saying that you object to being called “A person who looks good and does something spectacular”?

And it turns out that if you click the ad you go to a [page](http://www.urbandictionary.com/products.php?term=woowoo&defid=388687) from which you can buy woowoo mugs, t-shirts, hats and bumper stickers! We should make them rich!

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**Author:** ![rolandgunslinger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/cdc98d/32.png) [@rolandgunslinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rolandgunslinger)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2010, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-hate-speech/543714/58 "2010-06-19T03:37:56Z")

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Just for the record I would have no problem kissing all of Christina Aguilera’s woo hoo.

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**Post date:** [June 19, 2010, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-hate-speech/543714/59 "2010-06-19T03:55:47Z")

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> see post 5.

You do see the smilie there, indicating he was making a joke?

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2010, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-hate-speech/543714/60 "2010-06-19T05:15:16Z")

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> [Pseudo-Intellectualism: Wee Wee, Cocky Doody And Woo Woo](http://dbellel.blogspot.com/2007/12/wee-wee-cocky-doody-and-woo-woo.html)

And again I ask you-what word would you _prefer_ we use for those who reject science and embrace nonsense?

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