# Is this hate speech? **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [June 18, 2010, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-hate-speech/543714 "2010-06-18T21:35:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2010, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-hate-speech/543714/121 "2010-06-20T02:23:30Z")
> [@Fenris](#): > > As an aside, the only thing that I wrote that could possibly be considered a “deliberate misrepresentation” is that Pete “misread/misinterpreted something Randi wrote” as opposed agreeing with Pete’s…um…peculiar point of view about that situation. Of course you are making deliberate misrepresentations. Look, [here is what Randi said](http://www.holysmoke.org/sdhok/randi01.htm). Not just here, he has been telling the same story for at least 30 years. This is only one example. \*I challenge all the dowsers in a similar way. Since 94 percent of the Earth’s surface has water within drillable distance my challenge is to find a dry spot! They don’t want to do it. Why? Because they only have a six percent chance of success. \* I sent in my application, and agreed to find him a dry spot, using the EXACT protocol Randi has described on numerous occasions. You know this, and you have deliberately lied about it. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2010, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-hate-speech/543714/122 "2010-06-20T02:32:57Z")
Annnnd here we go. ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2010, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-hate-speech/543714/123 "2010-06-20T02:34:12Z")
Is there any further point to this? I think it’s clear that **Peter Morris** isn’t ever going to convinced it’s not hate speech, and nobody else is ever going to be convinced it is. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2010, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-hate-speech/543714/124 "2010-06-20T02:44:27Z")
Ladies, Gentlemen and Marley: to all the newbies. Remember what I posted in post 108? This right here is exactly what I mean. He stalked Randi for _thirty years_ because of one misunderstood/misinterpreted sentence. He’ll never, ever concede a point. Ever. Like I said, poke him with sticks, point and laugh at him, but don’t try to take him seriously. \*30 _years_?!? I almost wrote “decades” rather than “years” in post 108 but wasn’t sure how long it’d been. Over a _quarter of a century_ with no-one on the entire internet supporting him. Wow…just…wow. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2010, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-hate-speech/543714/125 "2010-06-20T02:48:01Z")
> [@Fenris](#): > > I disagreed with him. That’s a banning offense–we all know that Marley. > > But since we both know that I got those pics of you with the squirrel, the waffle iron and the marshmallow schnapps, I think you can be “trusted” to let me ‘get away with it’. _If_ you know what’s good for you. > > And I think you do. Oh **Fenris** , I do love you. 😃 ETA: is **Peter** one of those people who believes in the whole “holding two sticks and seeing if they touch together to detect water” thing? ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2010, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-hate-speech/543714/126 "2010-06-20T02:57:10Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > Look, [here is what Randi said](http://www.holysmoke.org/sdhok/randi01.htm). I absolutely love reading your links. > [@](#): > > There is a hunger, a very strong hunger, within us all to believe there is something more than what the laws of nature permit. I’m not just saying audiences that watch the magician. I mean within us all. We’d like to have a certain amount of fantasy in our lives, but it’s a very dangerous sort of temptation to immediately assume that it must be supernatural or occult or paranormal if we don’t have an explanation for it. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2010, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-hate-speech/543714/127 "2010-06-20T02:58:02Z")
> [@Fenris](#): > > He stalked Randi for _thirty years_ because of one misunderstood/misinterpreted sentence. Well, mods, you can see how this jerk continues to insult me, and continues to lie. Are you going to do anything about it, or will you let Randi supporters break the rules with impunity, like you usually do? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2010, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-hate-speech/543714/128 "2010-06-20T03:03:12Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > Well, mods, you can see how this jerk continues to insult me, and continues to lie. Are you going to do anything about it, or will you let Randi supporters break the rules with impunity, like you usually do? Thwnk you, **Fenris**. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2010, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-hate-speech/543714/129 "2010-06-20T03:04:09Z")
You folks can call me a woowoo if you like, but I believe this thread is going to take a drastic turn, and will end with Fenris, Marley and Peter skipping through a field of daisies, hand in hand. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2010, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-hate-speech/543714/130 "2010-06-20T03:08:15Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Thwnk you, **Fenris**. You’re thwnking him for acting like a jerk? I’m just glad you aren’t a mod any longer. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2010, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-hate-speech/543714/131 "2010-06-20T03:11:38Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > Well, mods, you can see how this jerk continues to insult me, and continues to lie. Actually, while I wouldn’t junior mod, my understanding of the rules is that you were OK when you said I was engaging in “jerkish behavior”, but I _think_ that calling me a jerk in ATMB is in direct violations of the rules. Could we have a mod weigh in on this please? ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2010, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-hate-speech/543714/132 "2010-06-20T03:13:29Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > You’re thwnking him for acting like a jerk? I’m just glad you aren’t a mod any longer. What’s the matter Pete? This post sounds pissy. Do you have sand in your woowoo? ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2010, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-hate-speech/543714/133 "2010-06-20T03:28:50Z")
You know you’ve been spending too much time on Facebook when you automatically go to click “like”. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2010, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-hate-speech/543714/134 "2010-06-20T03:36:32Z")
> [@Fenris](#): > > Actually, while I wouldn’t junior mod, my understanding of the rules is that you were OK when you said I was engaging in “jerkish behavior”, but I _think_ that calling me a jerk in ATMB is in direct violations of the rules. > > Could we have a mod weigh in on this please? Just answer these questions. That will show if you are a jerk or not. Q1) James Randi says there is water under 94% of the earth’s surface. Do you think this figure is accurate? Q2) James Randi has been saying “find me a dry spot” for at least 30 years. Do you think this is a sensible design for a test? Q3) James Randi claims that he ALWAYS offered the test to dowsers and found that “they don’t want to.” Do you think he has done so, or is he lying? What I think is that water is actually pretty rare and hard to find underground, it’s a stupid way of running a test, and his claims that he challenged dowsers and they refused are all lies. I sent in my application in order to prove a point. I knew he would chicken out of actually conducting the test, and I was right. What I think is, you already knew that he’s a liar, you support his lies, and hate me for exposing him. Which makes you a jerk. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2010, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-hate-speech/543714/135 "2010-06-20T03:43:14Z")
Time for your lithium again, **Mr. Morris.** ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2010, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-hate-speech/543714/136 "2010-06-20T03:45:22Z")
Ah yes, another personal insult. Time for the moderators to do nothing about it. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2010, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-hate-speech/543714/137 "2010-06-20T03:51:29Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > Ah yes, another personal insult. Time for the moderators to do nothing about it. What? Is lithium another word for cunt also? ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2010, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-hate-speech/543714/138 "2010-06-20T04:04:43Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > What I think is, you already knew that he’s a liar, you support his lies, and hate me for exposing him. Which makes you a jerk. > [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Time for your lithium again, **Mr. Morris.** Alright. Despite all the ridiculousness this is going over the line. It’s time for everybody to dial it back. ---
**Author:** ![crypto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b3f665/32.png) [@crypto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crypto)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2010, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-hate-speech/543714/139 "2010-06-20T04:36:46Z")
**whoo-whoo**! (this in no way is meant to be confused with woo-woo, which has multiple meanings). **whoo-whoo** IS pronounced the same way as woo-woo, but that’s not **whoo-whoo** ’s fault. And a **woo-hoo**! is a Homer Simpson exclamation of happiness. I still have no idea what is going on in here, but since I read all 3 pages, I felt compelled to respond. One thing I am honestly confused by. **Peter Morris** , if you are this upset about something, why on earth do you pay to post here? You can get aggravated for free, you know. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2010, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-hate-speech/543714/140 "2010-06-20T04:43:12Z")
[quote=“Stink Fish Pot, post:139, topic:543714”] > [@](#): > > One thing I am honestly confused by. **Peter Morris** , if you are this upset about something, why on earth do you pay to post here? You can get aggravated for free, you know. Because I am only occasionally annoyed by misbehaviour by a minority. Most of the time the Dope is a source of useful information, and interesting discussions on TV shows that I watch. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-hate-speech/543714.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-hate-speech/543714.md?page=8)